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    Default wtd carbies for a 205 gti 1.9

    hi guys looking for some carbies for my new 205 gti 1.9

    i wasent even supposed to buy the car but i have, so i can spend much more.
    ive heard that R1 bike carbies fit but im not really sure.

    any ideas?

    cheers

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    so i cant spend much more, stupid keyboard.!

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    Carbies, setup, not much to spend ; confused : )

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    205 gti and not spend much money

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    So far its $800.00 car purchase and $5000.00 rebuild here!

    Keep the injection system.

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    This mite help
    Then just pickup Weber's or Dellorto's in Australia. Use " Xtreme Fuel Systems" to do up the carburettors.Phone Nigel does the best build!!

    UK eBay Item number: 290659410904
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    PEUGEOT 205 GTi 1.6 & 1.9 TWIN 45 WEBER DCOE & DELLORTO DHLA INLET MANIFOLD KIT

    Struggling to find a retailer with this item in stock?...Well, look no further!!..

    This manifold enables a pair of Twin 45 Weber DCOE's or Dellorto DHLA's to be bolted to either the 1.6 or the 1.9 engine found in the Peugeot 205GTi ...NOTE: The distinctive CATHEDRAL shaped ports in the face of the manifold that are exclusive to the 1.6 and 1.9 205/309 GTi cylinder heads.

    The kit includes : the manifold, studs to mount the carbs., a set of o-ring plates to fit between the manifold and carbs., Thackeray Washers to enable the correct tension between the carbs and manifold to be acheived and finally a set of Nyloc Nuts...

    The mould that produces this manifold has recently been rejuvinated and consequently the quality of these manifolds has never been better!!..

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    Yamaha R1 carbs can be found for under $200. You then have to have a manifold made up to fit, which worked out to be little under $400 once posted from Bogg Bros in the UK. You'll want to spend a good amount of time cleaning the carbs out and buying some spare jets.

    Still it's a lot of work, but would be better than the Weber option.

    Either way, you'll need a pressure regulator or a low pressure fuel pump to get the fuel down to ~2 psi.
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    hahaah thanks guys ill give the R1 carbies a go , and if all fails ill fork out for the webbers.
    im just sick of fuel injection and want something challenging and fiddlely.

    your right about the ' not spending to much' thing . expencive little buggers they are.

    cheers

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    If you go ahead don't forget to make it a project thread......

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    Since you are going ahead with the R1 carbs, I'll give you a few hints:

    Yamaha R1 carb parts can be sourced locally, or from the USA. Expect to pay around four times as much if you source them locally. If you have a friend in the US who will forward them on using a cheap shipping option then that will definitely come in handy. I ordered by parts from the thumpertalk.com shop. Postage to AUS is ridiculous, however, though they have a parts fiche too, which comes in handy identifying parts.

    If you can find a set of R1 carbs cheap from the UK (bought mine from the US) get the UK version instead. Reason being that the UK got adjustable needles. The US ones do not. You can order a set of needles from the UK (they don't mind posting OS usually), but be prepared to spend $200 for four needles. My advice is to see how it runs on the needles supplied first, and use shims if you can get away with it. Failing that, Dynojet make adjustable needles which cost $100 for the set.

    As for syncing the carbs, something like this can be picked up for under $80 -

    If you can get the rubbers and rubber trumpets with the carb, all the better.

    That's all I can think of for now...
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    You'll spend less and get better results sticking with EFI.

    Spending less, as previously stated, doesn't go hand in hand with 205GTIs. You might has well cam and head up with you are going carbs. Get you your compression up to. Assuming your carbing up a DFZ.

    Have fun.



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    I tend to agree. I don't see any advantage in running carbs over EFI. I'm interested to know if anyone knows differently.
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    R1 carbs with a bogg bros manifold and be my hero!

    I had an Mi 205 with R1 carbs and it was glorious! The noise, the smell and the extra power.

    Break away from the Aussie norm and go the carbies

    Plenty of info on 205 drivers too

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    [QUOTE=PDJ;1026130]R1 carbs with a bogg bros manifold and be my hero!

    I had an Mi 205 with R1 carbs and it was glorious! The noise, the smell and the extra power.


    How does a carb give extra power????

    I'd have thought the limiting factor to how much power a motor can make is how much air it can stuff into its cylinder, not how it gets its fuel into the air.

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    did you have to clean the filters/ engine bay ,of unused fuel after every drive?

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    Well, I've heard that carbs atomize the fuel better. No reference for that information, sadly. If the throttle bodies are restricting things, then going to larger bodied carbs could yield more power....
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    ...anyway, bike carbs are just damn cool!

    (especially with a turbo)
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    ITBs and efi

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    Better off spending the money on an mi16 conversion
    The price and power output would be similiar and there's more potential for more power down the track

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    nah sorry cant go mi16 my dads doing that conversion, and we said we wouldnt clash projects. see we use the same aussiefrogs account. there is sometimes some confution between who is using it for what project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 205lover<3 View Post
    did you have to clean the filters/ engine bay ,of unused fuel after every drive?

    cheers
    It had no filters. You could stand in front of the engine with the bonnet up, blip the throttle and it would spit petrol into your face. Good job I'm not a smoker
    I'd use "the force" to not pull up to my destination on fire?
    Do a Google and check out 205 drivers and http://www.shenpar.com for a more supportive atmosphere for 205 Carby conversions.
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