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    Does anyone know where I can get a new/reco R5 Dizzy to suit the R5 (non turbo) 847/705 block?

    I note Mecaparts sells a Dizzy (MP1173). Is this one suitable?

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    That one is for a Gordini with the long shaft. non crossflow dizzy is much shorter
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    Frans
    I have a crossflow head, but not Gordini engine, but R5.
    I found this part under the R5 section of Mecaparts.
    If it is not correct, which is the correct one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Frans
    I have a crossflow head, but not Gordini engine, but R5.
    I found this part under the R5 section of Mecaparts.
    If it is not correct, which is the correct one?
    Angelo
    Oops,

    My fault then.

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    I didn't mean it that way, Its just that I will be in France in Late August and I just don't know which is the correct one to get.
    Angelo

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Does anyone know where I can get a new/reco R5 Dizzy to suit the R5 (non turbo) 847/705 block?

    I note Mecaparts sells a Dizzy (MP1173). Is this one suitable?
    R8 Dream,

    If you remove old distributer from engine and provide us the the info. written on housing we may be able to help. Also a date of engine would also help

    Alain

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    Hi Alain,
    My problem is that the engine came without a distributor, so I don't have any numbers.
    All I know is that it is an R5 Alpine engine 847/705 block.
    Sorry that I can't be any more specific.
    Angelo


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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Hi Alain,
    My problem is that the engine came without a distributor, so I don't have any numbers.
    All I know is that it is an R5 Alpine engine 847/705 block.
    Sorry that I can't be any more specific.
    Angelo

    On the eng. plate is it an 847 -12, 25 or 29 ?
    Will be a right angle distributor cap on these engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Does anyone know where I can get a new/reco R5 Dizzy to suit the R5 (non turbo) 847/705 block?

    I note Mecaparts sells a Dizzy (MP1173). Is this one suitable?
    Why not go for a 123 Ignition Dissy?

    Possibly the same price as Meccaparts & the 123 dissys are electronic and also look original.

    I've never heard anyone criticise 123 Ignition products.

    http://www.123ignition.nl/products.php

    " for R4, R5, Estafette, Daf 55 etc.

    the 123\RENAULT-4-R-V is a distributor, specifically targeted for the "Cleon"-engines as used in Renault 4, Renault 5, 4F4, 4F6, Renault Estafette and DAF55. It contains all the curves for carbureted-engines as originally specified by Renault. With a switch you can easily choose the advance-curve that was specified for your engine. It comes with a straight distributor-cap, for easy access to the sparkplug-leads. Might you prefer an side-entry cap, specify a '123\RENAULT-4-A-V'. All units come with a built-in vacuum-advance sensor.

    The unique, "Formula-1", spark-balancing feature, makes your engine spin as if it was new ! "


    Ted Cross is the Aussie distributor or you can buy online.

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    R8 dream,

    Ever thought of a MegaJolt? You can have your car going with a computer programmable ignition and a shift light and rev limiter and 4 extra auxillary outputs for under NZ$200.00.

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    I note that the blurb says "not suitable for R5 Alpine Engine".
    Also the engine id plate identified it as 847/705 block.
    How do I contact Ted? Is he in Australia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    I note that the blurb says "not suitable for R5 Alpine Engine".
    Also the engine id plate identified it as 847/705 block.
    How do I contact Ted? Is he in Australia?
    Contact, Ted Cross
    Phone 03 9819 2208
    Fax 03 9819 2208
    Mobile 0400 592 208
    email [email protected]


    http://www.123ignition.com.au/

    I would be comparing your dissy to the image of the replacement.

    I believe R5 Alpine has a longer drive shaft than the image shown.

    Ted does not seem to stock the Renault series. They are not listed on the OZ site. Since the NL site shows the Renault product, I assume Ted could import for you.

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    Default R5 Dissy

    A few possibilities.
    Measure down from the distributer flange face on block to offset drive gear to determine shaft length.
    These 847 types appear to be short shaft type.

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    Hi Alain
    Yes, I am coming to the same conclusion, as a earch on Wiki reveals that the 847 engine block comes from the Sierra family (688, 810 etc). See below.
    These engines typically use the short shaft, and the distributor as found on ebay will proably work.
    I spoke to Ted or 123Ingnitions, and he says he may also have a few in stock, but cannot guarantee they will fit without some mods/adaption being required.
    I think, mystery solved!
    Angelo


    C
    Main article: Renault Cléon engine
    The C family (for the Cléon factory where it was produced, also referred to as Sierra in early variants) was a major evolution of the B type, being also a cast-iron overhead valve inline-4, designed in the early 1960s for the Renault 8. An extremely sturdy, low-cost design, it was continuously refined over its 35-year career and was used in every supermini and compact Renault type up to and including the 1992 Twingo:
    · C1C (689): 956cc (65x72); 32 kW
    · C1E (688): 1108cc (70x72); 28-34 kW
    · C1G: 1237cc (71,5x77); 40 kW
    · C3G: 1239cc (74x72); 40 kW; monopoint injection
    · 810: 1289cc (73x77; out of production before alphanumeric codes were introduced); 32-47 kW
    · C3J: 1390cc (75,8x77); 43 kW; monopoint injection
    · C1J/C2J (847): 1397cc (76x77); 43-52 kW normal aspiration / 77-88 kW Turbo
    · C6J (840): 1397cc (76x77 with hemispherical head); 68 kW normal aspiration, 79-116 kW Turbo
    · C7K: 1430cc (76x79)

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