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    nJm
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    wanted a few bits and pieces...

    I've got the newer fangrille at last on my GR, but I want the passenger side mirror (how much is one worth 2nd hand?) and at some stage would love to get some 14" or 15" alloys off a GTi/GTi Estate... I suppose however these are all in great demand with a limited supply. Can anyone guess at how much the alloys would be worth?

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    If I had my time again (and the space in the back yard) I would have bought a gti wreck for about $1000, and snatched all the odds and ends off it. Wheels for a 505 cost a fair bit - it just depends on how much you like your car. You can get a set of 14's without too much trouble (most places I've called usually have a set lying about) - a spare parts dealer quoted me about $600 for a restored set of 14's. A restored set of 15's on the other hand cost about double that, and you'd probably have to get on a waiting list for them.

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    just want to make sure, these are the 14" aren't they?

    <a href="http://www.enteract.com/~ginz/sidep.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.enteract.com/~ginz/sidep.jpg</a>

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    Nick
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    "All of its cars from the 1.1 litre 205 through the ugly duckling 309 to the 2.2 litre 505 GTi had a rightness and a righteousness about them that turned every humdrum drive into a journey. Someone, I once wrote, in the bowels of Peugeot understands handling and how a chassis should feel." - Jeremy Clarkson

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    Nick,

    Yeah, they're the Peugeot factory 14" wheels. Some people refer to these as "Amils". Maybe Amil was the original parts supplier to Peugeot for these wheels.

    I've seen a set of 4 of these for as low as $150 in a club magazine. These particualr ones needed a respray due to flaking paint, although they weren't too bad (they used to belong to a friend of mine).

    You should be able to find a set of cheviot or dunlop alloy wheels easier than the factory ones, and they rarely go for more than $200 a set. Most will need repainting, but it's not hard to do yourself, you just have to be patient.

    One thing to be weary of is that the Cheviot wheels put greater loads on the wheel bearings, due to greater offset. On the front this isn't a problem, because the late 504 and 505 front wheel bearings are tepered rollers and can take alot of abuse, but the rears are only angular contact ball bearings and I've had one fail on my 504 fitted with cheviots. I wondered why the car veered one way under acceleration, and the other way under compression braking. It dawned on my after a while. I jacked the car up, and sure enough the wheel could be moved around alot. Thank goodness for disk brakes, because it was only the caliper which stopped the wheel from getting the "death wobbles".

    I haven't heard of this happening to anyone else, but since many 504s and 505s have alot of miles on them now, it will probably start happening to a few other cheviot equipped cars. It's probably only a problem on cars that have done over 400,000km, and alot of rough work with the cheviots fitted. I guess it depends on how rough a life the car has had. I know one fellow who has done over 500,000km in his 504, most of those with cheviots fitted, and he hasn't had a problem......yet.

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    davemcbean:
    front wheel bearings are tepered rollers
    Sorry, that should have been tapered roller bearings.

    Dave
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    I think the Peugeot factory 14" alloys are the best looking 14" wheels for a 505.

    The 604 steel wheels look OK, especially on rally cars.

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    Thanks for the info Dave, I'll start looking around for the Pug 14" wheels. while i'd love the GTi 15"s, there is now way i'm paying more than $600 for old alloys

    I too think the Pug 505's 14" are the best looking 14" wheels on them, thanks for all the advice again
    Nick
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    nJm:
    thanks for all the advice again
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    I am thinking about putting the plastic trims off a 604 on my 505 when it's done...has anyone seen this done? if so what does it look like ?

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    Do Pug hubcaps fit on the 505's steel wheels, or are you putting the 604's steels on the 505?

    My current steel wheels still have all their chrome trimmings on them, so plastic hubs wouldn't fit on my car.
    Nick
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    Pug_405_Mi16:
    I am thinking about putting the plastic trims off a 604 on my 505 when it's done...has anyone seen this done? if so what does it look like ?

    Ben
    Do do this, you will probably need to use the 604 wheels also, because the hubcaps are made specifically to fit up against the holes in them.

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    How much should I expect to pay for a side mirror? I was curious, as I don't want to get ripped off by anyone (I assume these mirrors would be in fairly high demand?)

    thanks
    Nick
    1983 Peugeot 505 GR


    "All of its cars from the 1.1 litre 205 through the ugly duckling 309 to the 2.2 litre 505 GTi had a rightness and a righteousness about them that turned every humdrum drive into a journey. Someone, I once wrote, in the bowels of Peugeot understands handling and how a chassis should feel." - Jeremy Clarkson

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    I will have a look Dave and let you know!

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    the 604 hubcap is held onto the wheel by the wheels nuts
    604 wheel nuts are different from the standard nut for a steel wheel 505
    and yes the holes in the hubcap do line up with the holes on the 604 steel wheel
    they aren't a bad looking wheel and if you can spin the rims off and fit 15X7" rims on them you would have a nice grip on the road
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