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    PRV V6 with toyota 5 speed

    Wrecked 504 (boulder fell on the tail), with PRV V6, Toyota 5 speed, shortened driveshaft and tube.
    Diesel ratio diff (3.7:1) Renault single Weber inlet manifold. Engine rebuilt in 1997 with only 2000km on it since.

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    $3500 (car is in Sydney)

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    Forgot to mention that it's a 2.7 litre with stock manifolds and a single 2.25" (or maybe it's 2.5"?) exhaust system.

    The gearbox is very similarly converted as Alan's Toyota gearbox in the photos in the thread in the Performance section.

    Dave

    <small>[ 11 September 2003, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: davemcbean ]</small>
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    1991 205 SI 1.6GTI motor
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    1997 Civic Cxi (great allrounder- revy, flexible, nimble, comfortable , economical, simple and durable )

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    G'day Dave, what's the rest of the car like - year model, interior, other panels etc. Any photos? It sounds like the guts would make a good transplant into a late 504 body - concerning emissions legalities and different age engines and bodies, how old is the engine? Is this ADR27a and later issue actually a problem? Thanks.

    <small>[ 11 September 2003, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: boodek ]</small>
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    The car is a 78 model, with grey velour interior in reasonable condition. The car is straight from the back wheels forward. It was resprayed completely black in about early 1997. I don't have any photos.

    I'm not sure of the exact age of the engine. It would be somewhere between 1976 and 1980, but it doesn't have any emssions gear on it at the moment, just the Renault single Weber manifold with twin throat Weber 38DGAS carby.

    The 3.7 diff used to be mine. It came from my father diesel 504 and is in good nick. My father only chaged it to a 3.89:1 ratio because he put a carby motor in and he found the 3.7 was a bit tall in 1st when trying to get the car up on ramps, etc.

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    where did the engine come from ?
    doesn't sound too bad
    thing is i sold my V6 504 with worked motor and other nice bits around the car for $1000 so in reality i wouldn't pay any more than that for a squashed one but everyone is different
    but i am really interested in knowing where the engine came from before it fell into the 504
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    pugrambo:

    but i am really interested in knowing where the engine came from before it fell into the 504
    Before Brendan rebuilt the motor himself and dropped it into his 504, the engine belonged to Peter Boorman (of turbo 504 2 litre fame). Peter was the guy who adapted the gearbox and got the R30 manifold, etc, for the engine, but he never got around to reconditioning the engine and putting it in a car. It was just a motor that he picked up from a wreck somewhere with the idea of dropping it in a 504, but never got around to it, then Brendan bought the bits off him and finished the job.

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    <small>[ 11 September 2003, 11:28 PM: Message edited by: davemcbean ]</small>
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    1976 504 Ti
    1984 205 GT twin carb
    1991 205 SI 1.6GTI motor
    1994 106 Xsi
    1996 Mondeo V6
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    1955 203C
    1997 Civic Cxi (great allrounder- revy, flexible, nimble, comfortable , economical, simple and durable )

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    is this car still for sale, i hope that the price has droped. ( i am on first year apprentice pay)
    i would like the v6 in my wagon 504. if any one knows where i could get a PRV V6 to rebuild i would be very interested.

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    spike:
    is this car still for sale, i hope that the price has droped. .
    I've no idea. Phone him to find out.

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    1991 205 SI 1.6GTI motor
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    1996 Mondeo V6
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    1997 Civic Cxi (great allrounder- revy, flexible, nimble, comfortable , economical, simple and durable )

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    It's still for sale according to today's trading post, but it's now a little cheaper:

    Peugeot 504 V6, with modified Toyota 5 speed box, modified drive shaft, diesel ratio diff, Renault inlet manifold, new exhaust, engine rebuilt 1997 (2000kms since), various other parts, one of a kind, $2900 ILLAWONG 0425-28 3991
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    1984 205 GT twin carb
    1991 205 SI 1.6GTI motor
    1994 106 Xsi
    1996 Mondeo V6
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    1955 203C
    1997 Civic Cxi (great allrounder- revy, flexible, nimble, comfortable , economical, simple and durable )

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    I've still got my 604 5 spd g/box with clutch & fly wheel for sale. Will fit any non power steer 504 or 505. It came off a V6 504. Very easy to install.
    Steve V6 ..
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    Without wishing to step on Pugrambo's toes, for that sort of money I would be happy to buy your 604 5-speed Steve, I'm about to get an auto 1973 504 which I plan to stick a V6 into, this box would suit it nicely! This is entirely up to Pugrambo and you of course, he has made the first offer. I also need a V6, can anyone advise about what is the preferred PRV version to have?
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    Oh, I'd go for this one...

    <img src="http://members.atlasf1.com/raybell/pics/Wmlemans.jpg" alt=" - " />

    ...any time!

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    Sounds ideal, Ray. Can you get a price on it for us?... wink

    <small>[ 03 October 2003, 02:17 PM: Message edited by: boodek ]</small>
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    If only you'd asked when I was standing alongside the spare in the tent in the pits...

    Though I think the turbos had been taken off it.

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    I've just spent the last hour and a half reading the posts for the past couple of years about V6's and 4's; the 504 has a very sweet 4 in it, I'm rethinking my V6 transplant. I might be better off massaging the existing donk, but still want to turf the auto and stick a manual in. Therefore, the 5 speed would still be very nice, but I'd settle for a BA7 and pedals, etc. Can anyone help?
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    The set I have put aside are earmarked for a certain roughly-painted TI with sunroof that I just got registered.

    If time's not important, there will be another set to come out of the car at Dubbo in about three weeks, but they will travel to Qld before heading south again.

    To use a BA7/5, you will have to find one out of a late (post '83?) GR, not exactly easy to find. But the input shaft and bellhousing off a BA7/4 will give you what you need to convert a BA7/5 out of an STi or GTi... do you have a rough 4-speed donor box hanging around (not from a 404, by the way, different needle race size)?

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    steve V6:
    I've still got my 604 5 spd g/box with clutch & fly wheel for sale. Will fit any non power steer 504 or 505. It came off a V6 504. Very easy to install.
    Why "non power steer" Steve?

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    Actually Ray, I was talking about a 4-speed BA7. This new car is an auto, and I'm damn sick of autos, so I'm after all bits to convert it to a manual. I've read a few posts where people have said that the 5-speed doesn't actually do a lot for economy and noise, and a 4 would do quite nicely as a medium term solution.

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    It's a left hand drive bellhousing, the starter's on the right...

    That leaves no room for the power steering bit of the rack.

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    Boodek,

    Does that mean you'll be replacing that avatar with something more suitable for such a forum? Bloody Volvos! Ray, the paint job isn't that bad, considering he used a little beaver to do the job!

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    Sorry boodek, I missed your post about wanting a 4-speed because I was posting while you were...

    I guess I have a 4-speed for you if you want, and I suppose you want flywheel and clutch too?

    Though I thought you'd source these things closer to home...

    Just let me know if you want to arrange anything, but nothing can happen for a month anyway (when I next return from Qld).

    And Ralph... sure, I don't think the paint's all that bad. Once I try a light and very wet wet and dry over it I expect it to improve a bit too...

    I'm happy to have the car, and I'm looking forward to putting a BA10/5 into it. I do think a 5-speed is a benefit, easing the engine's job for a lot of endless highway miles even if it uses much the same amount of fuel.

    With a body with the bigger auto tunnel, boodek, I'd really recommend you go the same way (ie a BA10/5)... it does cut noise at highway speeds by the way.

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    Only joking Ray, Boodek spent a lot of time and effort on that car, you got a good one.

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    a BA10 is a waste on a 4pot
    you would only need a BA7 for a 4 pot unless you are expecting greater output from it of course
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x '98 306 GTi6

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0


    WTD long range fuel tank for 605

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    That may be the case, but they're more available and generally cheaper.

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    Ray Bell:
    That may be the case, but they're more available and generally cheaper.
    yes i must say that BA10's are just about a dime a dozen
    i have always run BA10's but then i have had quite a few PRV V6's
    never had a BA7/5 yet in a car of my own but have driven a few of them
    i do prefer the 10's even though they are more costly to rebuild
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x '98 306 GTi6

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0


    WTD long range fuel tank for 605

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