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    16 Parts, TS TL TX

    Just got myself a 1976 16TS, with TX 5 speed box.

    So I will be on the lookout for parts, trim.. with the thought of restoring it TX specs.

    sorta liked the look of this protoype.
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    Vivid,

    Isn't this a photo of a US specification R16, not a 16TX.
    I thought the 16TX had rectangular headlights with small rectangular driving lights mounted next to the headlights.

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    Yea I think you are right.

    <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/R16%2018.jpg" alt=" - " />

    Tho earlier 16s had an aluminium grille, I think I would prefer that to the black plastic.

    I just thought the round lights look great.

    I was even considering going for the early model rear indicator lenses.
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    Vivid,

    To me, the square headlights on the R16TX look like they don't belong on the car and look pretty awful. Perhaps it’s because they’re so big that they don’t have room for a surround and don’t blend in with the grill. I’ve never seen a R16TX “in he flesh” so they might look better than they do in photos.
    The round headlights from a Virage would probably fit the R16, they used the same rectangular lights.
    Finding headlight surrounds and grill that would fit the quad headlights would be a different matter. You’d probably have to have some sent over from Europe or the US.

    Fitting the smaller early R16 tail lights to a later model would be a bit of a challenge. If you can’t get a rear panel to suit the old style tail lights, you’d have to seal up the rather large holes for the existing lights and cut new ones for the older style lights. Because the lights are accessible for inside the boot, your welding would have to look good from both sides.
    Hope your welding skills are better than mine.

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    Vivid,

    To me, the square headlights on the R16TX look like they don't belong on the car and look pretty awful. Perhaps it’s because they’re so big that they don’t have room for a surround and don’t blend in with the grill. I’ve never seen a R16TX “in he flesh” so they might look better than they do in photos.
    Tend to agree, but I haven't ruled it out.
    I also want to consider the in-car headlight adjustment on the 76TS that is already fitted.

    I do much prefer the aluminium grill. I am hoping that it wont be too much of an effort fitting it to the TS, as I understand the mounts are completely different.

    What do people think, regarding originality?
    Would it be wrong to have a 16 with (imo) the best of the TS, TL and TX?

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    The round headlights from a Virage would probably fit the R16, they used the same rectangular lights.
    Finding headlight surrounds and grill that would fit the quad headlights would be a different matter. You’d probably have to have some sent over from Europe or the US.
    I think I have managed to source the parts for either GL, TX, TL or TS models in the US. things like aluminium grill, would be nice light, and cheap to ship. dont know if I will need to get a TX steering wheel overseas. There is a place in the US I just contacted, suggesting I buy a TX they have, and get them to ship the parts I need.

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    Fitting the smaller early R16 tail lights to a later model would be a bit of a challenge. If you can’t get a rear panel to suit the old style tail lights, you’d have to seal up the rather large holes for the existing lights and cut new ones for the older style lights. Because the lights are accessible for inside the boot, your welding would have to look good from both sides.
    Hope your welding skills are better than mine.

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    Definitely sounds like a challenge. I was even thinking I may find an early model 16 somewhere, and chop the back panel out.

    <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/16achter.gif" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/R16%2007.jpg" alt=" - " />

    Still also unsure on the dash. I really like the TL 'look alike' wood finish, and the lack of shelf on the passenger side. The only thing missing would be the tacho. Although I am told the TX dash also has no shelf on the passenger side, and with the silver steering wheel looks quite nice. Although getting a LHD dash from the US would be kinda pointless.

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    <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/gr16ausdash.gif" alt=" - " />
    <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/R16%2013.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/R16%2008.jpg" alt=" - " />

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    The R16TX was sold in the UK so you might find a RHD dash there.

    Ren cheers!

    PS, The silver dash looks nice.
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    <img src="http://www.renault16.com/images/gr16tsvoor.jpg" alt=" - " />

    cant be sure, but the aluminium grill on the US twin round headlights, doesnt look much different from the aluminium grills for the rectangular type headlights we got in aus.

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    The lights on the 16TX pictured above are specific to a particular country where I believe yellow reflectors are required by law. I have 16TX and they do not have the yellow circle and look much better.

    I also used to have a 16TS, so had a chance to compare them. The grille on the TX (aluminium) should fit a TS with the plastic type grille. However the original TS aluminium grille would not. The TX had two style of lighing bracket (won't go into here) but they are very distinct. I have tried fitting various lights (ie virage etc) but none would go without serious modification. The only "foreign" lights that fit a TX bracket(supposedly) are from a pug 604. (and only the inner square ones).

    Vivid, I have a spare R E N A U L T tail name if you need it (the older style) and a spare back shelf.
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    Sarosa:
    The lights on the 16TX pictured above are specific to a particular country where I believe yellow reflectors are required by law. I have 16TX and they do not have the yellow circle and look much better.
    Your in Melbourne too, we must meet, so I can have a look at your TX. How do you find the 5 speed box is on the TX?
    I will probably do it to another engine, but I would like to replace sleeves to match TX engine specs. Think it is worth it?

    I also used to have a 16TS, so had a chance to compare them. The grille on the TX (aluminium) should fit a TS with the plastic type grille. However the original TS aluminium grille would not. The TX had two style of lighing bracket (won't go into here) but they are very distinct. I have tried fitting various lights (ie virage etc) but none would go without serious modification. The only "foreign" lights that fit a TX bracket(supposedly) are from a pug 604. (and only the inner square ones).
    Oh I didn't realise the aluminium TX grill is different to the TS/TL grill.
    Something I will try and order. I think I need to see the TX headlights in the flesh before I start.

    Vivid, I have a spare R E N A U L T tail name if you need it (the older style) and a spare back shelf.
    eek!

    wow I was convinced that I simply wouldnt be able to find some of the trim I was after, unless I shopped overseas. Would I ever like those bits!!
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    Hi Vivid
    I have a 76 ts and have gotten into it a bit, I have a few parts from it and the 72 series, let me know what you want,as I have a parts car sitting and waiting to be dissolved. I am actually keen on keeping the car stock standard so I dont know about modifications but I do have some evidence as to how it looked new, maybe helpful

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    Thanks Melc,

    Should know in the next couple of weeks what parts I will need.

    I think the hardest thing to find will be the TX wheels. How are the front seats in your spare?
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    Sorry vivid

    The seats are rubbish, yours certainly wont be worse. You are right about the wheels, I am just about to put an advert out about 3 shabby ones that a mate wants me to sell, if there were 4 I may consider them, to turn my 76ts into a ts special like John's in my picture, from WA.

    Keep posting

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    Only 3.. bummer.. I think the chances of getting 2 by themselves would be slimmer than a complete set.

    When you say shabby, what is wrong with them?

    I actually dont mind the look of the steel wheels with the diamond hubcap, on a retro 16.
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