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    Icon6 Wanted: 205gti front caliper rebuild kit , or just replacement caliper

    Hello,

    I've got a sticking front caliper on my 90 model 205gti.
    Anybody have a rebuild kit floating around by any chance?
    I'd consider a good replacement caliper also.

    The caliper is a bendix one if that helps

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    Sounds like a good excuse to upgrade to 206/307 brake setup


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    Hello,

    I am considering that path, and did mean to mention it in my first post. A while ago i did a fair bit of reading and I'm still unsure what I actually need to look for that will fit my car, ie series 1,2,3 etc and talk of needing si hubs and what not.

    And some people say the upgrades are too heavy or adversely effect pedal feel so I'm not sure about everything really lol.

    Perhaps time for some more research.

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    You need Si hubs if your car is an early one. Later cars have the Si hubs already.

    You also need callipers, discs and a 306 master cylinder. You can still buy the discs new from PBR or similar.

    I have posted all the details (including the discs' part number) when I did my car, but who knows where the thread is?

    307 brakes are way too heavy and totally unnecessary.
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    Thanks for that, good to know.

    So just to clarify, did you use 306 calipers and rotors along with the 306 master?

    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    You need Si hubs if your car is an early one. Later cars have the Si hubs already.

    You also need callipers, discs and a 306 master cylinder. You can still buy the discs new from PBR or similar.

    I have posted all the details (including the discs' part number) when I did my car, but who knows where the thread is?

    307 brakes are way too heavy and totally unnecessary.

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    Another thing I mean to ask,
    I have a 405 mi16 parts car, any chance I can use the front brakes off that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Slow View Post
    Thanks for that, good to know.

    So just to clarify, did you use 306 calipers and rotors along with the 306 master?
    I am sure the MC was run of the mill 306 and pretty sure the discs too but I am not sure about the callipers (bought s/h off someone who had bought them to do the conversion on their car but changed their mind). MC and discs were bought new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    You need Si hubs if your car is an early one. Later cars have the Si hubs already.
    There is some misinformation here that needs clarifying. There are three types of hubs in Australia:

    S1/S2 with small driveshafts (staked nut)
    S3 with large driveshafts (R pin through nut)
    Si with small driveshafts (staked nut)

    All with three versions of 247mm discs.

    By coincidence, S3 and Si hubs have the same offset, meaning calipers and discs are interchangeable.

    If your car has Bendix calipers then it's most likely an S3. If your car has Girling calipers then it's most likely S1/S2.

    There were three different size brake rotors fitted to 306 - 247mm, 266mm and 283mm.

    If you want to use a 266mm rotor, then you need the matching caliper. It could come from an S16, XSi, HDi or various 206 models.

    The 266mm rotor fitted to Mi16, Xantia etc. are identical to 306 rotors.

    You can't fit Mi16 calipers to a 205/206/306 hub however.

    The correct master cylinder for 266mm brakes is a 4 port 22mm 306 version.

    The majority of 206 and 306 models had 266mm brakes, thus calipers are in abundance.

    Alternatively, fix your Bendix calipers, keep it original and fit some quality brake pads. eg Endless.
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    No, the 405s have the same layout as 205/306 but nearly everything is different in brakes and suspension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Slow View Post
    Another thing I mean to ask,
    I have a 405 mi16 parts car, any chance I can use the front brakes off that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterT View Post

    If your car has Bendix calipers then it's most likely an S3. If your car has Girling calipers then it's most likely S1/S2.
    The S3 I was working on today had Girling front calipers!

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    I did think the early ones were Bendix. I may have a kit, can check tomorrow.

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    They were Bendix on the S1
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    I have a pair of front calipers, 266mm rotors and master cylinder off a 306 XSi - PM me if you're interested...

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    Ive had both Bendix and Girling on S3 cars.

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    I've just acquired a pair of ATE calipers from an N3 306 for the 247mm disc from the wreckers. They are the same caliper used on the 106 GTI / Saxo VTS, 206 1.4 and early 306s so many options for pads.

    If you are coming from a Series 1 or 2 (1.6 Setup), the only thing you need is the calipers, pads and bolts. You can keep your hubs, discs and 14" wheels.

    From what I've read on 205gtidrivers is once the Bendix calipers are sticking you might as well throw them and get a Girling or ATE caliper which still work very well even when they are in need of a rebuild.

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    I have Bendix kits available.

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    Thank you everyone for your advice, knowledge, and offers of parts.

    I think I've found a cheap 306 locally that will give me front and rear disc brakes so I'm probably going to go with that.

    Thanks again
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