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    Default Wanted: 16TS 336 gearbox or Crownwheel and Pinion

    Hi All,

    The pinion in my box has a bad tooth so I am interested in a replacement gearbox or crownwheel and pinion in good condition.

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    Cheers, Chris.
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    What box type/number is that Bustamif?
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    Hi Shoji, thanks for the response, it's a 336 4 speed TS gearbox. The CW&P are a matched pair so I can't just use another pinion/cluster.

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    Maybe someone knows of new old stock somewhere ?

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    I'd expect one of the 16 folk in NSW or Vic would have a gearbox spare. You could PM Sarosa? I was told years ago in France that the 16 coincided approximately with computer-controlled stock management, so the dealers didn't hold lots of pieces as they had in earlier years. So there are always new crownwheel and pinion sets for 4CV transaxles available in France on www.ebay.fr, for about Euro 200 or less, but I've never looked for 16 parts there.

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    Thanks John, I'll keep looking.

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    Default 16TS Gearbox or Crownwheel and Pinion

    Anyone have a complete 336 4 spd gearbox in good condition they are prepared to part with ?

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    Try and roll start any Renault backwards will damage the crown wheel teeth, normally just one

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    Well I guess that's what the previous owner of the doner car could have done. Or maybe it was during a trip over the Nullabor, anyway I am after a gearbox or good crownwheel and pinion so I can finish building a big gearbox for the Fast Floride project.

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    I know they used the ts engine in a lotus europa ,not sure if they used the renault box ,some lotus guy may have one under the bench ,also there are guys out there that put 16 gears in an r8 box ,for a stronger box, ask, at colliers ,if they havnt got one they should know were to get one, pugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by pugwash View Post
    I know they used the ts engine in a lotus europa ,not sure if they used the renault box ,some lotus guy may have one under the bench ,also there are guys out there that put 16 gears in an r8 box ,for a stronger box, ask, at colliers ,if they havnt got one they should know were to get one, pugs
    Hi Pugs
    The Lotus gearbox has the wrong crownwheel and pinion compared to the R16. All other items are essentially the same
    I hope this helps you with your search
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    Thanks Rob, I also have a Lotus Europa which I raced in the 70's, you may have seen it run at the annual March Phillip Island historic meeting. The Lotus CW&P is different to the 16TS as you mentioned.

    Wanted: 16TS Crownwheel and Pinion-tric2be.jpg

    I am after a CW&P for a 16TS box or a complete 336 box in good condition.

    Final assembly of my R8/R10 box with 16TS internals for my Floride project which was almost complete until I discovered a chipped tooth on the pinion, hence my current search.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bustamif View Post
    Thanks Rob, I also have a Lotus Europa which I raced in the 70's, you may have seen it run at the annual March Phillip Island historic meeting. The Lotus CW&P is different to the 16TS as you mentioned.

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    I am after a CW&P for a 16TS box or a complete 336 box in good condition.

    Final assembly of my R8/R10 box with 16TS internals for my Floride project which was almost complete until I discovered a chipped tooth on the pinion, hence my current search.
    Just a thought, but failing finding a CW &P from a TS16, can the tooth on the pinion be repaired (weld build up and ground back and rehardened?

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    Nice pic of that engine Bustamif. a bit of fine detail going on
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    Quote Originally Posted by R8 Dream View Post
    Just a thought, but failing finding a CW &P from a TS16, can the tooth on the pinion be repaired (weld build up and ground back and rehardened?
    Good point Angelo, I will follow that up. I had a close ratio straight cut gearbox built by John Needham at Old Car Gearboxes in Vic. I am sure he could do something about repairing/rebuilding my CW&P. The problem could be how much work he has on and where I would be in the que. It took just over two years to get the Lotus box done. It was worth the wait though, really strong with all the right ratios. A tall first gear and 4th is good for just over 245 kph out of the Renault engine at Phillip Island.

    Wanted: 16TS Crownwheel and Pinion-tridb66.jpg Wanted: 16TS Crownwheel and Pinion-tri1400.jpg

    I am hoping to find someone who has a spare CW&P under a bench and is willing to part with it, the gearset not the bench !
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