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    Default Subaru withdraws from the ARC.

    First PSA out of WRC, now Subaru withdraws from the ARC ... maybe the new Ford will have a chance now, against an EVO .. yeah right

    http://www.rally.com.au/home/features/articleid=1817

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    incredible news

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    First PSA out of WRC, now Subaru withdraws from the ARC ... maybe the new Ford will have a chance now, against an EVO .. yeah right

    http://www.rally.com.au/home/features/articleid=1817

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    maybe the new Ford will have a chance now
    Doubt it but it'll be fun watching them try. I've timed my UK trip to take a look at this (http://www.rogeralbertclarkrally.co.uk/) later in the month and part of the reason for choosing this ahead of Rally GB is the rwd entertainment factor.
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    Maybe they were worried about too many Hectic bro's getting into Rallying or professional motorsports?

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    Rally is slowly dieing...

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    Thats shocking!!!!

    Whats the world coming to when WRX's aren't rallied by subaru!!!
    I wonder what tarmac events they are intending on compeating? Do they mean circuit work or tarmac rallies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAUTY205
    Thats shocking!!!!

    Whats the world coming to when WRX's aren't rallied by subaru!!!
    I wonder what tarmac events they are intending on compeating? Do they mean circuit work or tarmac rallies?
    I think both, Dean is being contracted to do Targa style stuff and I gather they are also going roundy-roundy, but don't know who...
    What worries me is pulling out of sponsoring events like Canberra and Tassie, who knows where they'll end up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by casnell
    What worries me is pulling out of sponsoring events like Canberra and Tassie, who knows where they'll end up...
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    Something that may appear to be lost with Subaru is that in Australia the only tarmac racing that the general public give a toss about is the V8 supertaxi's.

    If they wanted media exposure - pulling out of the ARC I dont think was the smartest move. There are too few tarmac rallies here to warrant a full "factory" effort and if they are going racing in something like the production car championship and expect the same coverage - good luck!

    I always thought that rallying was the perfect showcase for their all wheel drive technology. However, since Possum was killed a lot of the marketability of the ARC has gone. Crocker & Herridge are nice enough blokes but they come across with the personality of a postage stamp to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    since Possum was killed a lot of the marketability of the ARC has gone. Crocker & Herridge are nice enough blokes but they come across with the personality of a postage stamp to me.
    Agree Michael. I think the only one with a personality is Simon Evans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Agree Michael. I think the only one with a personality is Simon Evans.
    It's not so much about his personality - with Simon it's because he has such an obvious passion for rallying - like Petter Solberg - he wears his heart on his sleeve and you can genuinely tell when he is happy, disappointed or even distraught!

    I still remember at Rally SA when I met Possum - he was such a nice guy - down to earth and could always spare a minute for a chat with fans. Having seen some of the others recently they wont even say g'day to officials let alone spectators!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    It's not so much about his personality - with Simon it's because he has such an obvious passion for rallying - like Petter Solberg - he wears his heart on his sleeve and you can genuinely tell when he is happy, disappointed or even distraught!

    I still remember at Rally SA when I met Possum - he was such a nice guy - down to earth and could always spare a minute for a chat with fans. Having seen some of the others recently they wont even say g'day to officials let alone spectators!
    Subaru should have given Simon more of a go a few years ago, then things would have been interesting...he's very talented and a great guy as well.
    Cody and Dean are good value when you get them aside afterwards, but very focused during an event which often makes them come across as cold...Chris Atkinson is just focused all the time which means he is just cold...
    Possum was a great guy who could really cut loose!
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    After seeing the interview with Nick Senior on the weekend I still don't get why they are pulling out of a sport that truly reflects their marque. There is no tarmac racing that has decent enough coverage (GTP has a poor tv showing) that they could enter. I feel sorry for Cody, Dean, et al as they have basically had their careers cancelled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    After seeing the interview with Nick Senior on the weekend I still don't get why they are pulling out of a sport that truly reflects their marque. There is no tarmac racing that has decent enough coverage (GTP has a poor tv showing) that they could enter. I feel sorry for Cody, Dean, et al as they have basically had their careers cancelled.
    I suspect a mixture of cost (their new plans sound much cheaper) and perhaps they feel that they have been competing and winning in ARC for so long that it has lost its publicity impact. Whatever the reason it's a sad day. Hope they come back soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 106 Rallye
    I suspect a mixture of cost (their new plans sound much cheaper) and perhaps they feel that they have been competing and winning in ARC for so long that it has lost its publicity impact. Whatever the reason it's a sad day. Hope they come back soon.
    something like ferrari winning for so many years in a row, i guess the publicity is not as good as it used to be...

    but then again ARC (and WRC) has never had any reasonable coverage in the media comparing to other motorsports like F1, V8s, MotoGP...etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    It's not so much about his personality - with Simon it's because he has such an obvious passion for rallying - like Petter Solberg - he wears his heart on his sleeve and you can genuinely tell when he is happy, disappointed or even distraught!

    I still remember at Rally SA when I met Possum - he was such a nice guy - down to earth and could always spare a minute for a chat with fans. Having seen some of the others recently they wont even say g'day to officials let alone spectators!

    absaloutley.you should see big head chris snell when he wins,he wont even give time to the crew for a chat.[only gaggin chris]
    but i think that personality shouldnt come into it.
    they are driving rally cars,not winning the greatest personality contest.
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    I don't blame Subaru for pulling out, the ARC has a tiny market compared to other championships they could enter. Not only that, but their competition is an almost non-event so what do they really get out of it?

    It's like a viscious circle; there's only a small market here for motorsport and there's not enough money in it. One needs to compliment the other, but for whatever reasons, we have neither.
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