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    the ngk rally of melbourne is on this weekeend.
    where exactly is it being held?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazgti
    the ngk rally of melbourne is on this weekeend.
    where exactly is it being held?
    -BAZZ
    A variety of places, all in the Yarra Valley. Got to www.rally.com.au and then the ROM sub site.
    Sunday afternoon is the best spectating, Debortolis winery at Dixon's Creek, you can see most of the stage.
    I am MTB orienteering Sunday so will probably go to the service park in Yarra Glen on Saturday, a lot more interesting than watching a car go around a corner then disappear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bazgti
    the ngk rally of melbourne is on this weekeend.
    where exactly is it being held?
    -BAZZ
    I'm servicing for steve on the w/end, we have enough guys Bazz, but feel free to drop-in at the Yarra Glen racetrack. I'd agree with Graham, don't bother with the forest, go to the service park , or DeBortolis Sunday 12 noon on...
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    That's good advice, I've been out to Sylvia Creek & Don Rd before, the Don Rd can be spectacular but because the forest spectator areas are so restricted they are very crowded.

    Perhaps I will see you at Yarra Glen on Sunday - which Steve are you servicing for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnh875
    That's good advice, I've been out to Sylvia Creek & Don Rd before, the Don Rd can be spectacular but because the forest spectator areas are so restricted they are very crowded.

    Perhaps I will see you at Yarra Glen on Sunday - which Steve are you servicing for?

    I was spectator marshalling at Don Rd, it was a great view for the marshals (norweigen flicks 40cm away from me) but as for spectators, probably not too great. Casnell, was your EVO running there?? I though I saw one that looked like yours.

    I think my faves were the dato 1600's, those things were great.

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    I was going to go out to Kalatha yesterday morning, but didn't get up early enough so I just went to the service park (watched Steve Glenney's Subaru being fixed after a roll) and then out to De Bortoli for the two stages. I've seen the Don Rd run in both directions before and Kalatha in two directions as well. My favourite car was John Hills' Escort RS1600 with the BDA engine - all rally cars should sound like that!

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    who won?

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    Quote Originally Posted by purrr-geot
    who won?
    Simon Evans day 1 Cody Crocker day 2 but Cody took the event overall on a count back and also won the ARC for 2005.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
    Simon Evans day 1 Cody Crocker day 2 but Cody took the event overall on a count back and also won the ARC for 2005.
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    Bah - He's just like Seb Loeb - but with even less personality...

    Did the Ford's make their debut in Melbourne or has that been pushed again to the NSW rally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Shearer
    I was spectator marshalling at Don Rd, it was a great view for the marshals (norweigen flicks 40cm away from me) but as for spectators, probably not too great. Casnell, was your EVO running there?? I though I saw one that looked like yours.

    I think my faves were the dato 1600's, those things were great.

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    Yeah, I'm insanely jealous but Steve drove it on the w/end, we spent Saturday making it progressively slower(!) fiddling with suspension set-up and tyres, then Sunday had a big think and reset it all and blitzed. Second in VRC and 13th O/R for Sunday. On Kalatha he even beat Justin Dowel in the EVO VI PRC (heaps more grunt, leading VRC) by 1 second! I have to say servicing was fun, but doesn't beat driving!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    Bah - He's just like Seb Loeb - but with even less personality...

    Did the Ford's make their debut in Melbourne or has that been pushed again to the NSW rally?
    They never said they would be entering a particular event until recently when they announced Bathurst as the first event.
    I don't see whats wrong with Cody's personality, would have to be better than Kangas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAHAM WALLIS
    They never said they would be entering a particular event until recently when they announced Bathurst as the first event.
    I don't see whats wrong with Cody's personality, would have to be better than Kangas!
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    True about Kangas!

    Originally the Ford's were going to contest from RallySA but that was shelved so I wasnt 100% sure what was going on in Melb. I dont keep as up-to-date with ARC news as I would like to!
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    I was officiating at Kalatha and Spectating Don RD Saturday Arvo.
    The Dattos were great got the big cheers with some circle work at Kalatha.
    But have to agrre on the sound of that BDA .
    IMO spectating at rally of melbourne is getting progressively worse with less points and more restrictions.
    I remeber when there were 3 spectator points on Saturday morning at MT Dissapointment followed by Domain Chandon , Don Rd and then Healsvelle Showgrounds - for lest than 1/2 of what you pay now.

    As for Cody I'm with Graham - my 6 YO thinks he's pretty cool after last years event when in the service at Healsville Cody Said" How's it going MATEY?"

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    I was there at Fuel Control on Saturday. Good fun working as official - we teased the Toyota crew if they can re-fuel Evans' car in 10sec like in F1 . Spectator on Sunday and I just love the DeBertoli stage !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSCLIO
    As for Cody I'm with Graham - my 6 YO thinks he's pretty cool after last years event when in the service at Healsville Cody Said" How's it going MATEY?"
    My little brother loves Cody but then again my brother thinks Chris Snell is a preety cool guy too,

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    btw when is ford going to put in there make shift rally car into action?

    Is it going to be fwd or awd??

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    From what I saw in the service park I was impressed with the way the crews interacted with the public (especially kids). Also a few guys from the Toyota crew did a lot of the "heavy lifting" to keep Glenney's car in the rally, it was great to see there is still that camaraderie.

    As for spectating, it is frustrating that the points are so few and far between, but that is the nature of running in the forests and around private properties. In past years I've watched at Kalatha then shot across to Don Rd, and as the points are by necessity so busy it is quite time consuming (eg several kilometres to walk from how far down the road you end up parking). Without knowing details of the stage routes, it would be good if it was possible to have a couple of spectator points in one area. Trouble is virtually all roads are currently in use either as stages or for access.

    De Bortoli is completely different & excellent, the only way it could be better is if they re-planted the vines so you could walk from the resturant end to the school end instead of having to catch the bus! It was good on Sunday that they had some Ford Fours club autocross cars running around between stage runs so there was something to look at rather than a couple of hours of nothing.

    Word on the weekend was the Focus will be awd, but possibly non-turbo. Can't see the sense in that myself, why spend that much $$$ and not put yourself in a position at the pointy end. From a PR point of view how can it work if you say "well we have come nowhere all year, but that is because we have no turbo of course", in addition to news reporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnh875
    From what I saw in the service park I was impressed with the way the crews interacted with the public (especially kids). Also a few guys from the Toyota crew did a lot of the "heavy lifting" to keep Glenney's car in the rally, it was great to see there is still that camaraderie.

    As for spectating, it is frustrating that the points are so few and far between, but that is the nature of running in the forests and around private properties. In past years I've watched at Kalatha then shot across to Don Rd, and as the points are by necessity so busy it is quite time consuming (eg several kilometres to walk from how far down the road you end up parking). Without knowing details of the stage routes, it would be good if it was possible to have a couple of spectator points in one area. Trouble is virtually all roads are currently in use either as stages or for access.

    De Bortoli is completely different & excellent, the only way it could be better is if they re-planted the vines so you could walk from the resturant end to the school end instead of having to catch the bus! It was good on Sunday that they had some Ford Fours club autocross cars running around between stage runs so there was something to look at rather than a couple of hours of nothing.

    Word on the weekend was the Focus will be awd, but possibly non-turbo. Can't see the sense in that myself, why spend that much $$$ and not put yourself in a position at the pointy end. From a PR point of view how can it work if you say "well we have come nowhere all year, but that is because we have no turbo of course", in addition to news reporting.
    I have a good source that says it will appear at Bathurst ARC in oc, and will be RWD , whatever, but I gather the long term plan is certainly AWD turbo...
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    rwd rally car?????
    what is this the 60's??

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    Quote Originally Posted by purrr-geot
    rwd rally car?????
    what is this the 60's??
    It won't win but it will look and sound great, give the spectators something to enjoy for a change.
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    if it's RWD, I am guessing that they're trying to attract those watching v8 taxi racing to ARC. And you know the taxi fans only like RWD cars...

    interesting to see what the drivers can do without the benifit of left foot braking like on FWD cars to keep with the pace.

    what's the driver line up for Furd ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by J206GTI
    if it's RWD, I am guessing that they're trying to attract those watching v8 taxi racing to ARC. And you know the taxi fans only like RWD cars...

    interesting to see what the drivers can do without the benifit of left foot braking like on FWD cars to keep with the pace.

    what's the driver line up for Furd ??

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    Michael Guest driving, Mark Stacey co-driving. Rumour has it a tarmac round may appear, which would suit RWD.
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    the non turbo awd thing is apparently a new class opening up in europe.
    So Ford are actually being quite smart about it
    At least if this is the case and they are built to FIA rules they can compete in Rally Aus (if there is one) and international events -less $$$/car developement costs
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    Quote Originally Posted by purrr-geot
    My little brother loves Cody but then again my brother thinks Chris Snell is a preety cool guy too,

    yeah well he is your YOUNGER brother.clue him up for gods sake
    ,i once heard someone describe cody as having the personality of a fence post.
    but i suppose it aint personality that wins races.-BAZZ

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    I really can't see you a rwd rally version would be any use in a marketing exercise for a fwd car! I guess we will just have to wait & see.

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