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    Default 2005 Rally Finland ****SPOILERS****

    Fastest rally on calendar.
    Yep it's on coming weekend.
    Citroens and Peugeots will show who can make fast cars for normal roads!

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    Entry list:
    # Crew Car Gr. Cl.

    1 Loeb-Elena Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    2 Duval-Smeets Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    3 Gardemeister-Honkanen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    4 Hirvonen-Lehtinen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    5 P.Solberg-Mills Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    6 Atkinson-Macneall Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    7 Gronholm-Rautiainen Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    8 Martin-Park Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    9 Rovanpera-Pietilainen Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    10 Galli-D Amore Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    11 Schwarz-Wicha Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    12 Paasonen-Vainikka Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    14 Kresta-Mozny Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    15 H.Solberg-Menkerud Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    16 Warmbold-Orr Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    17 Tuohino-Markkula Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    18 Stohl-Minor Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    19 Pons-Del Barrio Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    20 Carlsson-Andersson Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    21 Johansson-Lindstrom Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    22 Pykalisto-Ovaskainen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    23 Higgins-Agnew Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    24 Sohlberg-Hantunen Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    25 Lindholm-Tuominen Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    26 Latvala-Anttila Toyota Corolla Wrc A 8
    27 Mcshea-Clark Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    28 Kuistila-Jokinen Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    31 Andersson-Andersson Suzuki Swift A 6
    32 Wilks-Pugh Suzuki Swift A 6
    33 Katajamaki-Alanne Suzuki Ignis A 6
    34 Baldacci-Bernacchini Fiat Punto A 6
    35 Meeke-Patterson Citroen C2 A 6
    36 Aava-Sikk Suzuki Ignis A 6
    37 Scorcioni-Stefanelli Suzuki Ignis A 6
    38 Betti-Agnese Renault Clio A 6
    40 Rautenbach-Williamson Citroen C2 A 6
    41 Sordo-Marti Citroen C2 A 6
    42 Valousek-Scalvini Suzuki Ignis A 6
    43 Prokop-Gross Suzuki Ignis A 6
    61 Salo-Stenberg Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    62 Klemets-Plosila Subaru Impreza N 4
    63 Kakko-Lantta Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    64 Ketomaki-Alanen Subaru Impreza N 4
    65 Teiskonen-Teiskonen Subaru Impreza N 4
    66 Sipila-Lummaa Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    67 Alen-Aariainen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    68 Marttila-Haipus Subaru Impreza N 4
    69 Flodin-Andersson Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    70 Kinnunen-Luukka Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    71 Tahko-Lahtinen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    72 Pinomaki-Laaksonen Renault Clio N 3
    73 Rantanen-Lonegren Honda Civic N 3
    74 Nikko-Risberg Honda Civic N 3
    75 Mikkola-Suominen Honda Civic N 3
    76 Tamm-Kuzmin Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    77 Zachrisson-Svanstrom Suzuki Ignis A 6
    78 Heath-Lancaster Subaru Impreza N 4
    79 Junttila-Kronberg Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    80 Rossetti-D Esposito Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    81 Sokolov-Mirkotan Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    82 Llovera-Corral Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    83 Rantanen-Rantanen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    84 De Sanctis-Rosignoli Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    85 Bellm-Solloway Subaru Impreza N 4
    86 Utting-Utting Subaru Impreza N 4
    87 Villauneva-Tramont Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    88 Pesticcio-Sturla Suzuki Ignis A 6
    89 Hoelbling-Siena Renault Clio N 3
    90 Pressac-Renucci Citroen C2 A 6
    91 Neiksans-Utans Ford Puma A 6
    92 Laakso-Kontro Volkswagen Polo A 5
    93 Saari-Nokipii Nissan Micra A 5
    94 Kaisanlahti-Toivonen Volkswagen Polo A 5
    95 Mannerjarvi-Kronstrom Volkswagen Polo A 5
    96 Hytonen-Salmen Volkswagen Polo A 5
    97 Koskelainen-Paloheina Skoda Felicia A 5
    98 Nieminen-Alanko Nissan Micra A 5
    99 Hakola-Peerla Toyota Yaris A 5
    100 Savela-Forsstrom Volkswagen Polo A 5
    101 Joutsalainen-Ilmonen Nissan Micra A 5
    102 Savolainen-Puurula Nissan Micra A 5
    103 Ohman-Eriksson Volkswagen Polo A 5
    104 Medeghini-Capoferri Subaru Impreza N 4
    105 Barratt-Senior Mitsubishi Lancer N 4

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    Hey... I'm all for showing the froggies.. but lets be honest, there should only be one name highlighted.

    CHRIS ATKINSON!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pate
    Entry list:
    # Crew Car Gr. Cl.

    1 Loeb-Elena Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    2 Duval-Smeets Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    3 Gardemeister-Honkanen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    4 Hirvonen-Lehtinen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    5 P.Solberg-Mills Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    6 Atkinson-Macneall Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    7 Gronholm-Rautiainen Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    8 Martin-Park Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    9 Rovanpera-Pietilainen Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    10 Galli-D Amore Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    11 Schwarz-Wicha Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    12 Paasonen-Vainikka Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    14 Kresta-Mozny Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    15 H.Solberg-Menkerud Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    16 Warmbold-Orr Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    17 Tuohino-Markkula Skoda Fabia Wrc A 8
    18 Stohl-Minor Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    19 Pons-Del Barrio Citroen Xsara Wrc A 8
    20 Carlsson-Andersson Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    21 Johansson-Lindstrom Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    22 Pykalisto-Ovaskainen Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    23 Higgins-Agnew Ford Focus Wrc A 8
    24 Sohlberg-Hantunen Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    25 Lindholm-Tuominen Peugeot 307 Wrc A 8
    26 Latvala-Anttila Toyota Corolla Wrc A 8
    27 Mcshea-Clark Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    28 Kuistila-Jokinen Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    31 Andersson-Andersson Suzuki Swift A 6
    32 Wilks-Pugh Suzuki Swift A 6
    33 Katajamaki-Alanne Suzuki Ignis A 6
    34 Baldacci-Bernacchini Fiat Punto A 6
    35 Meeke-Patterson Citroen C2 A 6
    36 Aava-Sikk Suzuki Ignis A 6
    37 Scorcioni-Stefanelli Suzuki Ignis A 6
    38 Betti-Agnese Renault Clio A 6
    40 Rautenbach-Williamson Citroen C2 A 6
    41 Sordo-Marti Citroen C2 A 6
    42 Valousek-Scalvini Suzuki Ignis A 6
    43 Prokop-Gross Suzuki Ignis A 6
    61 Salo-Stenberg Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    62 Klemets-Plosila Subaru Impreza N 4
    63 Kakko-Lantta Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    64 Ketomaki-Alanen Subaru Impreza N 4
    65 Teiskonen-Teiskonen Subaru Impreza N 4
    66 Sipila-Lummaa Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    67 Alen-Aariainen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    68 Marttila-Haipus Subaru Impreza N 4
    69 Flodin-Andersson Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    70 Kinnunen-Luukka Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    71 Tahko-Lahtinen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    72 Pinomaki-Laaksonen Renault Clio N 3
    73 Rantanen-Lonegren Honda Civic N 3
    74 Nikko-Risberg Honda Civic N 3
    75 Mikkola-Suominen Honda Civic N 3
    76 Tamm-Kuzmin Subaru Impreza Wrc A 8
    77 Zachrisson-Svanstrom Suzuki Ignis A 6
    78 Heath-Lancaster Subaru Impreza N 4
    79 Junttila-Kronberg Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    80 Rossetti-D Esposito Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    81 Sokolov-Mirkotan Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    82 Llovera-Corral Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    83 Rantanen-Rantanen Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    84 De Sanctis-Rosignoli Mitsubishi Lancer Wrc A 8
    85 Bellm-Solloway Subaru Impreza N 4
    86 Utting-Utting Subaru Impreza N 4
    87 Villauneva-Tramont Mitsubishi Lancer N 4
    88 Pesticcio-Sturla Suzuki Ignis A 6
    89 Hoelbling-Siena Renault Clio N 3
    90 Pressac-Renucci Citroen C2 A 6
    91 Neiksans-Utans Ford Puma A 6
    92 Laakso-Kontro Volkswagen Polo A 5
    93 Saari-Nokipii Nissan Micra A 5
    94 Kaisanlahti-Toivonen Volkswagen Polo A 5
    95 Mannerjarvi-Kronstrom Volkswagen Polo A 5
    96 Hytonen-Salmen Volkswagen Polo A 5
    97 Koskelainen-Paloheina Skoda Felicia A 5
    98 Nieminen-Alanko Nissan Micra A 5
    99 Hakola-Peerla Toyota Yaris A 5
    100 Savela-Forsstrom Volkswagen Polo A 5
    101 Joutsalainen-Ilmonen Nissan Micra A 5
    102 Savolainen-Puurula Nissan Micra A 5
    103 Ohman-Eriksson Volkswagen Polo A 5
    104 Medeghini-Capoferri Subaru Impreza N 4
    105 Barratt-Senior Mitsubishi Lancer N 4

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    Default Shakedown

    Marcus Grönholm tops the shakedown!

    Shakedown results:
    1. Marcus Grönholm, Peugeot
    2. Toni Gardemeister, Ford
    3. Petter Solberg, subaru
    4. Sebastien Loeb, Citroen
    5. Harri Rovanperä, mitsubishi
    6. Jani Paasonen, Skoda
    7. Francois Duval, Citroen = Markko Märtin, Peugeot
    9. Gianluigi Galli, mitsubishi = Chris Atkinson, subaru
    11. Armin Schwarz, Skoda
    12....

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    Default First victory 2005 for Peugeot !!!!!!

    Rally has finished, and saw 3 french cars on the podium !!!!!

    For once it wasn't Sebastien Loeb and Citroën the winners, but Rally King "Bosse" Marcus Grönholm and the 307 WRC!!!!

    It's the 2nd time the Peugeot "CC racing" wins an event, and the same one: Finland!!!

    Thanks to that win and the 3rd place of fellow teammate Markko Märtin from Estonia(but codriver Michael Park from England), Peugeot takes the lead from Citroën before the first "real" tarmac rally, Germany!!

    Happiness in the Peugeot clan

    Note that it's 6 years since the last victory of a car wearing the italian tyres Pirelli

    But the thing that shoked on the rally was the jumps which hurt codrivers backs!!!
    Daniel Elena, Loeb's codriver, and even more Timo Rautiäinen, today winner's codriver were seriously injured at the back yesterday and during 1 minute(for Daniel) to most of the day(for Timo ) they couldn't breathe as they suffered!!!!
    Fortuneately they all could finish the event without too much more problems...


    Really awsome week-end in Finland for Peugeot fans!!

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    2005 Rally Finland - 5th - 7th August (Round 10 of 16)

    In this issue:

    - Final Results
    - Final News
    - Championship Standings
    __________________________________________________ ________________

    Final Positions - Rally Finland

    1 GRÖNHOLM/RAUTIAINEN MARLBORO PEUGEOT TOTAL 2:54:11.0
    2 LOEB/ELENA CITROEN TOTAL +01:06.7
    3 MARTIN/PARK MARLBORO PEUGEOT TOTAL +01:35.6
    4 SOLBERG/MILLS SUBARU WORLD RALLY TEAM +02:08.0
    5 HIRVONEN/LEHTINEN BP FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM +02:13.6
    6 GARDEMEISTER/HONKANEN BP FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM +03:32.4
    7 ROVANPERA/PIETILAINEN MITSUBISHI MOTORS MOTOR SPORTS +04:27.9
    8 DUVAL/SMEETS CITROEN TOTAL +05:10.4
    9 SOLBERG/MENKERUD BP FORD WORLD RALLY TEAM +05:45.8
    10 TUOHINO/MARKKULA SKODA MOTORSPORT +06:42.3


    Rally Finland - Final News

    Marcus Grönholm (Peugeot) ended Sebastien Loeb's (Citroen) six-rally winning
    run by beating the Frenchman by 66.7sec. It was Grönholm's first victory
    since winning here 12 months ago and his fifth Rally Finland success. He
    survived an early morning scare when his team found an oil leak in a new
    power steering system and had to replace the old unit. Markko Märtin
    (Peugeot) completed the podium places while Petter Solberg (Subaru) held off
    Hirvonen in their fight for fourth. Behind Gardemeister, Harri Rovanperä
    (Mitsubishi) and François Duval (Citroen) completed the points scorers in
    both championships. Chris Atkinson (Subaru) completed three retirements in
    three days when he stopped after the opening two stages with an engine
    problem.


    Citroen

    Sébastien Loeb, Daniel Elena and their Citroën Xsara completed Round 10 of
    the 2005 World Championship as superb runners-up to Marcus Grönholm who
    secured the fifth win of his career on his home event. The Citroën crew's
    seventh consecutive podium finish, which equals the existing record
    established by Carlos Sainz, sees the pair extend its cushion over its
    closest rival in the Drivers' championship by one point.

    Sébastien Loeb/Daniel Elena: "We gave him (Gronholm) a very close run and we
    come away with eight valuable points. In championship terms, this is an
    excellent result. but it's not a victory. Whenever a winning run like this
    comes to an end - even if you know it will stop one day - is bound to be a
    little bit sad. That said, I am very happy and proud to have been able to
    take the fight to Marcus over stages he has competed on every year since
    1989. You have to know when to accept being beaten by an opponent of his
    calibre on his home ground. We put in a very good run. and he put in a
    flawless performance."

    Francois Duval/Sven Smeets: "We didn't put a foot wrong on an event where it
    is so easy to make a mistake. We also achieved the objective we were set and
    we are looking forward to doing better still in Germany which stands out as
    a more straightforward rally for us."


    Subaru

    After a difficult event for the Subaru team, Petter Solberg crossed the
    finish ramp of Rally Finland in fourth place today to collect five World
    Championship points.
    Locked in a close battle over the final four stages, Solberg carefully
    controlled his pace to remain ahead of local star Mikko Hirvonen, who was at
    maximum attack on his home rally. Chris Atkinson continued to gain
    experience of his car in the specialist conditions, although his day was cut
    short by engine damage sustained in an accident on Leg two.

    Petter Solberg/Phil Mills: "It's a disappointing result, but after the bad
    landing on Friday and the split brake pipe yesterday I have to be happy with
    fourth. I tried to push so hard and we made a number of changes to improve
    the set-up yesterday and today. I was happier with how we finished today and
    after a quick break I'm going to be working hard, as I want so much to be
    back on top again, it's been too long now. We're going to do some very
    intensive testing before Germany and I know the car will have lots of new
    parts for the rally. You can be sure I'm not giving up and so I'm looking
    forward to getting out there again."

    Chris Atkinson/Glen MacNeall: "I can take a lot of positives from this
    weekend. It's my first time in a World Rally Car in Finland and I managed to
    set times that were quicker than some of the Championship contenders and the
    experienced locals. This shows we have a good pace, but we now need to keep
    building our experience. The car and tyres were good all weekend, and we
    didn't change the set-up at all. We're learning all the time and we want to
    come back next year and be quicker and more consistent to get a good
    finish."


    Ford

    BP-Ford World Rally Team won two of the four speed tests on today's final
    leg of the Rally Finland as both drivers claimed points finishes in the FIA
    World Rally Championship. Mikko Hirvonen and Jarmo Lehtinen finished fifth
    on the fastest rally of the season in their Ford Focus RS World Rally Car
    with team-mates Toni
    Gardemeister and Jakke Honkanen one place behind in sixth in a similar car.
    Each claimed a special stage victory this morning.

    Toni Gardemeister/Jakke Honkanen: "I attacked hard on the first two stages
    and that was enough to get by Rovanperä. After that I was able to cruise
    because he was too far back to worry me. The roads were quite wet today and
    I had a tyre vibration on the second stage so I drove carefully to avoid any
    problems - fast but safe. I'm pleased to score points for Ford but
    disappointed from a personal view. Until yesterday evening, I was
    comfortable in fourth."

    Mikko Hirvonen/Jarmo Lehtinen: "It's a great result both for me and the
    team. The fight today with Petter was one of the best battles of my career.
    The team sent us Petter's split times during the stages so I knew exactly
    what I had to do, but unfortunately I couldn't quite manage it. It has been
    a fantastic opportunity to drive for the Ford team and the pace has been
    high all weekend. Before the rally started my target was to set times that
    were close to Marcus Grönholm and Sebastien Loeb and I achieved that."

    Roman Kresta/Jan Mozny: "I just drove to finish this morning. It has been a
    hard weekend and I hope the next round in Germany will be easier than this.
    This was my first time in Finland and the pace of the event was just
    incredible. It is like Formula 1 in the forests and it really does take
    some getting used to. The amount of time in sixth gear is amazing."


    Peugeot

    Marcus Gronholm has taken a magnificent fifth victory on his native Rally
    Finland, which has boosted him to second in the drivers' championship.
    Markko Martin completes a great team result to end the rally in third place.
    Peugeot therefore retake the lead of the Manufacturers Championship, one
    point ahead of Citroen.

    Marcus Gronhölm/Timo Rautiainen: "It's been the perfect rally for us. We
    knew from the start that we could fight to win, but it was only last night,
    when we got a one-minute lead that we knew for sure that we were going to do
    it. It's not been an easy rally - we were always pushing hard and I was very
    worried about Timo. To avoid injuring his back any more I was definitely
    backing off over some of the bigger bumps, which cost us time. Although it's
    fantastic to win here, we still have to keep working hard to improve the car
    because Finland is not really typical of most events!"

    Markko Martin/Michael Park: "I'm very pleased - not so much with third place
    but more with the fact that we have been in a genuinely competitive
    situation here in Finland. This is down to many things, but above all the
    adjustments to the suspension have helped me a lot. For the first time I
    felt really confident with the car, and if we keep working hard and going
    down the correct route I am sure that there will be more good results to
    follow this."


    Skoda

    Janne Tuohino and Armin Schwarz brought the Skoda Fabia WRC 05 home in 10th
    and 11th places respectively on Rally Finland. Jani Paasonen's rally ended
    on SS5 when a rear wheel collapsed under the car following a heavy landing
    after a jump that caused problems for several crews.

    Armin Schwarz/Klaus Wicha: "Today was not the time to push too hard and
    spoil a decent result. I knew that I couldn't improve my position so I
    decided to drive carefully and hope for a trouble-free day."

    Jani Paasonen/Jani Vainikka: Retired

    Janne Touhino/Mikko Markkula: "There was a lot of water on the stages this
    morning and so there was no point in taking stupid risks to try and catch
    Henning. I was quite surprised at the conditions. The car has been good all
    weekend and it seems we have found better reliability after our recent
    tests."


    Mitsubishi:

    The Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05 crew of Harri Rovanperä and Risto Pietiläinen
    finished Rally Finland, the tenth round of the FIA World Rally Championship,
    in seventh position, claiming points for themselves and the team in their
    home event.

    Harri Rovanpera/Risto Pietilainen:"The car has been very reliable all
    weekend, working well and for this I am very happy. The tires have been good
    and our only problem today was a puncture in the final stage. Seventh
    position is right for the conditions and car we had on this event; it was
    not possible to do more. But, I know that when everything is working
    perfectly, we can fight hard for the top position."

    Gigi Galli/Guido D'Amore:
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    Championship Standings:
    FIA World Rally Championship (after round 10 of 16)

    Drivers
    1. S Loeb 83pts
    2. M Grönholm 55pts
    3. P Solberg 53pts
    4. M Märtin 48pts
    5. T Gardemeister 47pts
    6. H Rovanperä 22pts

    Manufacturers
    1. Peugeot 106pts
    2. Citroen 105pts
    3. Ford 69pts
    4. Subaru 59pts
    5. Mitsubishi 43pts
    6. Skoda 8pts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugster
    Rally has finished, and saw 3 french cars on the podium !!!!!

    For once it wasn't Sebastien Loeb and Citroën the winners, but Rally King "Bosse" Marcus Grönholm and the 307 WRC!!!!

    It's the 2nd time the Peugeot "CC racing" wins an event, and the same one: Finland!!!

    Thanks to that win and the 3rd place of fellow teammate Markko Märtin from Estonia(but codriver Michael Park from England), Peugeot takes the lead from Citroën before the first "real" tarmac rally, Germany!!

    Happiness in the Peugeot clan

    Note that it's 6 years since the last victory of a car wearing the italian tyres Pirelli

    But the thing that shoked on the rally was the jumps which hurt codrivers backs!!!
    Daniel Elena, Loeb's codriver, and even more Timo Rautiäinen, today winner's codriver were seriously injured at the back yesterday and during 1 minute(for Daniel) to most of the day(for Timo ) they couldn't breathe as they suffered!!!!
    Fortuneately they all could finish the event without too much more problems...


    Really awsome week-end in Finland for Peugeot fans!!
    3rd works 307 Peugeot couldn't finish the rally because Sebastian Lindolm's co-pilot was seriously injured on same jump than Marcus' co-driver Timo.

    Car was on display at the Rally HQ it was completely intact but the co-pilot was in hospital. 2 bones on the thorax were fractioned

    I was next to podium and got some of the champagne shower!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pate
    Fastest rally on calendar.
    Yep it's on coming weekend.
    Citroens and Peugeots will show who can make fast cars for normal roads!
    Like I said.

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    Nice picture Pate!!!!

    And really lot of red on the podium!!

    Pitty for Lindholm and more for poor Tuominen, though...

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    Another victim.

    "10/08/05 - 10:36]

    Vertebral fracture for Cato Menkerud
    Hopes to be back for Wales Rally GB

    A painful landing for Cato Menkerud


    Following an x-ray examination today, Cato Menkerud, co-driver of Ford driver Henning Solberg, was diagnosed with a vertebral fracture.

    “The crack happened on SS5 at the same jump where the others injured themselves," said Menkerud.

    He experienced an extremely painful landing and immediately afterwards had trouble breathing.

    “Even though I am stiff and in a bit of pain at the moment, I'm sure I'll be clear to complete our last WRC event of the year in Wales next month,” he added.

    Press Release
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    I think it is pretty unacceptable that co-drivers should be exposed to potentially serious injuries like that - must be from hitting bump stops v. hard - the regs need looking at. Maybe elastomer seat mounts to limit forces imposed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnh875
    I think it is pretty unacceptable that co-drivers should be exposed to potentially serious injuries like that - must be from hitting bump stops v. hard - the regs need looking at. Maybe elastomer seat mounts to limit forces imposed?
    Maybe pace-note the crests properly?
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    I doubt the pace notes missed the crests - they clearly could slow down, but choose not to, and having chosen not to the severity of the landings needs to be looked at.

    Edit, I've now seen a bit more info from the event, this is probably what you were referring to. I still think something needs to be done, on "normal" crests you see the codrivers wincing at the landings, this one took it over the edge.

    http://www.pettersolberg.com/com/asp...?nyhetsID=1867
    One jump in particular, which had seemed deceptively gentle on the recce, seemed to catch out most crews. Petter Solberg estimated that his car was launched three metres in the air after they hit it at 190kph. With less opportunity to brace themselves, co-drivers tended to be the worst affected, and some complained of back and rib pain after the violent impacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin B
    Hey... I'm all for showing the froggies.. but lets be honest, there should only be one name highlighted.

    CHRIS ATKINSON!!!!

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    Especially in the crash highlights...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnh875
    I doubt the pace notes missed the crests - they clearly could slow down, but choose not to, and having chosen not to the severity of the landings needs to be looked at.

    Edit, I've now seen a bit more info from the event, this is probably what you were referring to. I still think something needs to be done, on "normal" crests you see the codrivers wincing at the landings, this one took it over the edge.
    I don't doubt they didn't miss the crests, but they obviously didn't allow for the speed/angle/landing , anyone who's rallied where there's lots of crests should do that for each crest and either put a speed on it or rate it as "flat crest" or put a figure on it to tell you what speed to go eg "6 crest". You can't survive long putting "flat crest" for everything...
    Does make it very hard with only 2 recce passes and 6o k speed limit tho., kind of asking for trouble I reckon...
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