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    4 drivers to take grid penalties.
    Ricciardo, Verstappen, Alonso and Sainz.
    That's as at after FP1.

    Ricciardo:- 20 places.
    Verstappen:- 15 places.
    Alonso:- 35 places.
    Sainz:- 10 places.



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    UNfair in my opinion. The penalties for technical changes should be applied to the constructor's standings and not the individual driver's championship points.
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    Add Hulkenburg and Palmer to the grid penalties list.
    Plus, Ricciardo had another 5 places for a gearbox change.
    And Verstappen another 5 for a new turbocharger.

    It now looks like:-

    Ricciardo:- 25 places.
    Verstappen:- 20 places.
    Alonso:- 35 places.
    Sainz:- 10 places.
    Hulkenburg:- 10 places.
    Palmer:- 15 places.

    Qualifying results on a wet track as follows:-
    https://www.formula1.com/en/results....ualifying.html

    Starting order has not been published yet but all six penalized drivers will be in the last six starting grid positions!

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    Lance Stroll qualified 4th and starting from 2nd position. Wonder how long he will stay there, given it should be a dry track and the two Ferrari's and a Merc are just behind him.

    There could also be lots of action at the back of the track on the first lap.

    Has potential to be an interesting race, although I fear Lewis will run away and not be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigkev414 View Post
    UNfair in my opinion. The penalties for technical changes should be applied to the constructor's standings and not the individual driver's championship points.
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    Yes, this mechanical penalty is being applied in various categories of motor racing in an effort to contain costs, but unfortunately it seems to me that it does nothing to level the playing field, rather it has the opposite effect. Almost by definition, the better, faster cars have less mechanical problems, so they suffer fewer penalties - almost a reverse handicap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIVEDOOR View Post
    Lance Stroll qualified 4th and starting from 2nd position. Wonder how long he will stay there, given it should be a dry track and the two Ferrari's and a Merc are just behind him.

    There could also be lots of action at the back of the track on the first lap.

    Has potential to be an interesting race, although I fear Lewis will run away and not be seen.
    Ocon starting behind Hamilton, if he just has the thought of Perez on his mind you never know what will happen into the first corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63-1092 View Post
    Ocon starting behind Hamilton, if he just has the thought of Perez on his mind you never know what will happen into the first corner.
    Good observation. My ideal would be for him to take out Hamilton in the first corner, because after that he probably won't be close enough
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    Looks like hours highlights on One, late Monday night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63-1092 View Post
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    Very incisive opinion as usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fordman View Post
    Yes, this mechanical penalty is being applied in various categories of motor racing in an effort to contain costs, but unfortunately it seems to me that it does nothing to level the playing field, rather it has the opposite effect. Almost by definition, the better, faster cars have less mechanical problems, so they suffer fewer penalties - almost a reverse handicap.

    If there was no such restrictions, is there a possibility that top team would squeeze even more power out of the engines and run with "granade" engines which would last just a race weekend. Engine costs a major ticket item for teams.

    I agree with some form of cost control, but there needs to be a better way to do it than the current system, but the current overly complicated turbo-hybrid electric power plants arent the way to save money.
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    HI,
    So, basically, it sounds like the entire field is starting at the back of the field!
    Maybe they should just line them all up in the same order starting at the last grid place?

    I get that it seems hard on the drivers, but this whole F1 malarky isn't just there for drivers to have glory. They are part of a team, so all up I reckon it is fair and pragmatic that they suffer when the car gets a penalty. Sorry guys, just the humble pie you have to eat with your millions!

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    As it happened, Ricciardo started from 16th position with a 25 grid place penalty. Figure that out, although it appears people with 150 grid place penalties did start behind him.

    FWIW I watched an impressive Ricciardo and Red Bull Renault/Tag Heur/whatever drive to climb thirteen places and finish fourth.
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