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    Default F1 - Nico Rosberg retires days after winning title

    "I have climbed my mountain, I am on the peak, so this feels right," Rosberg said.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/38185846

    Perhaps his next goal is to be a family man?

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    Yep. Very cool.

    He had a goal and accomplished it.

    To have lewis beat you for 20 years and then get one on him would be pretty Special!

    Whos going to fill the seat?

    Alonso is probably ringing Toto now...
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    i reckon this quite accurately sums up the situation:

    While thinking about how hard winning that title was, doubtless his thoughts were also about what it would take to beat Lewis Hamilton to it again. He clearly felt that at the age of 31, with a young daughter, he was not prepared to make those sacrifices again.
    i have no doubt the temptation to keep trying for more glory is almost irresistible, and there is no shortage of former F1 champions floundering in the middle order, still doing that. and making good money, it must be said, but probably feeling some pain anyway.

    hats off to him for being so clear about his own goals.

    FD: what would be your guess on the subject of who replaces him?

    from the point of view of winning races, i would think Verstappen would be looking good, and he has youth to boot, but managing a team with him and hamilton racing each other, could be a real headache! imagine how hamilton would behave if he starting having his ass whipped on a regular basis! which would have to be a possibility....

    anyway, it will be most interesting to see how another driver performs relative to hamilton, in the same car.
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    Who replaced Nico? I think at this late stage it will be case of who is available. I am sure Red Bull have Max all locked up, part of the reason they upgraded him from their other team to the "lead" team.

    Quote from Hamilton, "It is definitely going to be strange and it will be sad to not have him in the team next year." Somehow, I think he will get over it.
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    haha yes, i was having a good chuckle over that!

    as for the rest... 'now, let's have a look at those get-out clauses in my contract'....

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    Yep. Very cool.

    He had a goal and accomplished it.

    To have lewis beat you for 20 years and then get one on him would be pretty Special!

    Whos going to fill the seat?

    Alonso is probably ringing Toto now...
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    What about Vettel? Not sure where his contract is, but I am sure he would be tempted by a fast car.
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    Current Merc reserve driver is Pascal Wehrlein who drove his first season with Manor, so obviously he is hopeful of taking Nico's spot.

    Toto Wolff has previously acted as Valtteri Bottas manager, so who knows, maybe the connection will give him a leg up, perhaps not? He has signed up with Williams recently, but who knows, it only takes money to break contracts if it suits the powers to be.
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    I'm pretty sure Jenson has a clear schedule
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    Good point, but does he register on Merc radar? We will see.
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    having pondered it, i suppose the top team, which already has an proven car/driver combo, probably doesnt even want the next best driver. hard as it is to engineer, it seems that a competent but clear second best, second driver would be better. that could avoid the unhelpful tussle for the championship, but still bring in enough points for the constructors. lord knows the hamilton/rosberg duo has caused some headaches for the team overall.

    i recall Loeb saying the same the year Ogier went to VW, after having both of them with Citroen had caused exactly the same problems within the team.

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    Mercedes F1 reluctant to chase Vettel or Alonso to replace Rosberg
    By Mitchell Adam @DrMitchellAdam Published on Sunday December 4th 2016

    Mercedes does not want to "interfere" with Formula 1 rivals Ferrari and McLaren as it looks for a replacement for Nico Rosberg, according to motorsport boss Toto Wolff.

    Other than a single seat at Sauber and two at Manor, F1's 2017 grid was settled before newly-crowned champion Rosberg announced his shock retirement on Friday.

    When asked about trying to lure the contracted Sebastian Vettel from Ferrari or Fernando Alonso from McLaren, Wolff said that was not high on his agenda.

    "It's not my intention to interfere with Ferrari's internal issues," Wolff told Gazzetta Dello Sport.

    "And I don't even know if Sebastian really has the intention to come to us.

    "It's the same thing [with Alonso]: what would Ferrari and McLaren do without Vettel and Alonso in December?

    "Or Williams without [Valtteri] Bottas? [That] option is the one I like the least."

    However Wolff did concede his phone had been running hot since Friday's news.

    "I've been bombarded with phone calls," he said.

    "I've been called by 80% of the F1 drivers. Who hasn't done so, Raikkonen and Kvyat, didn't just because they don't have my number!"

    Mercedes juniors Pascal Wehrlein and Esteban Ocon gained race experience in 2016 with Manor.

    Ocon has subsequently been signed by Mercedes-powered Force India on a multi-year deal and Wehrlein had emerged as the frontrunner for the remaining Sauber drive.

    Wolff said their promotion was as an option, along with hiring a dedicated 'number two' - in contrast to the Hamilton and Rosberg relationship - and testing the market, despite his reluctance.

    "The first [path] is to consider having a number one and a number two," he said,

    "A bit like Ferrari during the [Michael] Schumacher and [Felipe] Massa era.

    "That is, hire a driver that guarantees points for the constructors' [championship].

    "The second hypothesis is to promote our young drivers, Ocon or Werhlein.

    "After all, other teams have given a chance to youngsters like [Max] Verstappen and [Stoffel] Vandoorne.

    "The third path is to get back on the market in order to find another top driver.

    "On Monday I will be in Brackley and I will a have meeting with Ron Meadows, Andrew Shovlin and a group of top-level engineers, and we'll start working to find the best solution.

    "It's a new and exciting challenge. After all, even if we have won 19 races, this has been a really complicated season, full of hurdles."
    that was putting it tactfully!


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    Good on him. Moving on while he still can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cam85 View Post

    Alonso is probably ringing Toto now...
    Close, but apparently it's Toto who is doing the chasing

    Bernie Ecclestones money is on Alonso ending at Mercedes. If it happens, it's likely to be more interesting than the recent history with Merc drivers.
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    this is from August:

    Fernando Alonso believes he and Lewis Hamilton would now enjoy a harmonious relationship if they were to reunite as teammates in Formula One.

    The pair endured a tumultuous season together at McLaren in 2007, resulting in Alonso's swift exit from the team at the end of the year after falling out with team boss Ron Dennis. Both Alonso and Hamilton missed out on the 2007 title by a single point to Kimi Raikkonen, but despite their frosty relationship at the time they have since spoken of their respect for one another.

    Nine years later, Alonso, who has since returned to McLaren, believes he and Hamilton would work well together.

    "I think it would be different," he told ESPN. "I'm more mature, he's more mature. The teams now are, in a way, more prepared for all the situations.

    "If I was teammate of Lewis one day I think it would be very different, because we have learned and we are very different people. We no longer have that ... let's say that stress of winning on the side because I think we respect each other a lot.

    "Everyone respects us a lot and we would drive as fast as we can but with another level of respect."

    this is what happened last time, but no doubt it would all be just fine. after all, Hamilton is a much changed and mature man now . as he has so unequivocally demonstrated time and again this year.

    The 2007 backstory...
    The unrest at McLaren was rooted in Alonso's belief that Hamilton -- then a rookie -- was receiving preferential treatment from the British team. It came to a head during qualifying at the Hungarian Grand Prix when Hamilton did not let Alonso pass him on track during the fuel-burning phase of the session, enraging the Spaniard who reacted by blocking Hamilton in the pit lane, preventing his teammate from returning to the track in time to challenge for pole position.

    all that said, it did rather appear that rosberg and hamilton had a particularly bad chemistry.
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    I am sure Alonso/Hamilton combination would be different this time, but it wont be harmonious. It will be fire and spark, if not typhoons.
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    Niki Lauda has stated in an interview in the Bilck, that it wont be worth Mercedes trying to buy Bottas' contract and they wont be buying any other drivers contracts, leaving Pascal Wehrlein in the box seat for the Merc seat.
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    Lauda says they wont pay for Bottas release what Williams want, but BBC says they want him. Also other significant chair shuffling behind the scenes

    Mercedes want Williams' Valtteri Bottas as Lewis Hamilton's team-mate - BBC Sport
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    Default Martin Brundle opinion of Merc driver situation

    Keeping in mind that the F1 cars will be new cars next year, needing plenty of development

    "Mercedes and Williams both in need of experienced Valtteri Bottas"

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    Not sure he is the right fit for this job either.
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    Default Alonso staying at McLaren

    Alonso has indicated he is not interested in breaking his contract to move to Merc.

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    If Fernando stays at McLaren his additional World Chamionships (at37yo) would be zero
    Which is likely the number Nico would have added if he stayed at Mercedes.

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