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    And has Peugeot's add money been worth it ?

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    Have to say, I was surprised to see more Nissans during ad breaks than Peugeots during the World Cup.

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    Bet you I can tell you the score before the game begins
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    Well Peugeot sponsored the tournament, not the telecast. Ford sponsor the Wallabies, so lay claim to some advertisements too.

    I've kept the faith throughout the tournament, the Wallabies are going to whip 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by UFO
    Bet you I can tell you the score before the game begins
    Let me know so I can go to the TAB.

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    I reckon the weather will be a factor. If its another wet game like tonights, I reckon Wilkinson's feild goals could be the difference.

    Hard to say, but I'll definately be backing the Wallabies, although not financially
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergetov
    I reckon the weather will be a factor. If its another wet game like tonights, I reckon Wilkinson's feild goals could be the difference.
    They (England) don't bother to score a tri any more ... makes it a game of arial ping-pong. Not a rugby fan anyway, but their style of play (even though it's a winning tactic) just bores me.

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    Its a problem with union, not rugby per se.

    If the French had decent defence wilkinson would'nt have scored so many feild goals - and they should'nt have given him so many penalty shots! damn that Serge fellow.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad England won, But with no tries I'm not impressed.

    Hopefully a repeat the Wallabies sterling defence performance will preclude wilkinson from scoring all those darned goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergetov
    Its a problem with union, not rugby per se.
    Suggested solutions ? - No tries = England = yawn.

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    League dealt with such problems ages ago!
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    Isn't union for the toffie nose set ??

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    Yes, but that does'nt mean its a better sport.

    I like union a lot, but there are times when I appreciate the stronger structure of the league set up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    And has Peugeot's add money been worth it ?
    Yeah, now the general public know how to spell it properly!

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    France had poor discipline and that lost them the game. I agree with the 3 point system for penalties, but for field goals it's a bit much. But the penalties were genuine infringements and the French deserved what they got. 2 send offs in a semi final is unacceptable

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    WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

    Up the WALLABIES! BRING BACK BILL BABY!

    I have to agree with who ever said the weather will be a HUGE factor! If its wet and we give away penalties within the 50 England will walk all over us. Good weather and i think we will crush them! To every do sun dances on saturday and no one from melbourne come up to sydney cause we don't want you bringing any of your shitty weather with you

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    Being a big rugby union fan (even for a melbournian) i too reckon the scoring system should be looked at.

    People want to see try's & fast passing not some english bloke having a pot shot 10 meters out, if thats the case i'll go watch aussie rules or that gaelic football rubbish.

    I love J.Wilkinson, but i do think he has revolutionised the game a bit and soon drop goals will be the absolute norm in rugby, which cannot be good for the game.

    thats my 2 for the day.

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    I'm starting to think that about the points as well! I used to like it, but after South africas effort in the last world cup and Jonny W in this one, it's starting to shit me! 7 points for a try is good, but i think even penalties have to be dropped to 2 points to make teams go for tries. Bonus points was a great idea but they just dont work at this end of the tournament when it only matters if you win by 1 point!

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    Yes, but if you have a team that continually infringes in the breakdown, where they KNOW the other team will score at the rate of attack, then the defending should be penalised severely. I think there should be more penalty tries, actually. More send offs for professional fouls. It was good to see France have some men sent off. I like the 3 points. France deserved to get punished like they did. They were just so stupid! These guys are professionals, they know the rules, FFS!

    In the end you can't ASSUME the other team will infringe in the breakdown, and win a game. England are taking that gamble, and it will be to their detriment against Australia, as our discipline was top notch against the Kiwis.

    The game has to reward teams that abide by the rules. In the end, this game is about pressure, not unlike cricket. It's the team that remains composed and skilled through the pressure that wins the game. It's what seperates it from league, IMO.

    My only issue is perhaps the field goal, but it's so rarely used in normal play. The way JW used it last night was fair enough, it was hard work to hang onto the ball. (But it shows the guy hasn't got much of an arsenal for a half back.) It's mainly used when an infringment has happened and the referee is playing advantage. It's a fair call for such a field goal to be worth 3 points.
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    Not that I care much about rugby (any form) but as a spectator I want trys, clever passing and running ... this kicking sh!t is boring !

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    Not that I care much about rugby (any form) but as a spectator I want trys, clever passing and running ... this kicking sh!t is boring !

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    To be frank, as someone that loves rugby, if you're a spectator who just wants tries, then that's too simplistic. If you want lots of points, go and watch AFL or basketball. This game, like soccer, is about pressure and not just tries. I don't want this game turned into a try fest, catering to the needs of those spectators that just want that, rather than the core rugby fans that love the rules of the game. It's similar to the difference between one day cricket and test cricket. Would you asking that test cricket change so that it pleases more spectators who want more boundaries?

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    And in addition to the cricket comment, they invented Rugby Sevens to get more tries. Yep, you guessed it, noone watches it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTI124
    To be frank, as someone that loves rugby, if you're a spectator who just wants tries, then that's too simplistic. If you want lots of points, go and watch AFL or basketball.
    I didn't say I just want trys (or lots of them) but when you can win games by not even attempting to get the ball over the touch line - then you have to ask the question .. "is this what rugby is all about" - you want more kicking? - go and watch American football.

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    Yes it's what rugby is about sometimes. I have faith in the game. I have faith that when the gameis played well it's a beautiful game to watch.

    Oh, and I'm not having a go at you, it's just that I continually here this criticism from all sorts. It's often caused by not understanding the rules of the game. Calls for rule changes are ludicrious when the game has had these rules for a long time. The teams are used to them; they've adjusted to them. There's no excuse to not abide by them.

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    Yes, Kicking weather for field position or for points has to stop.

    Rugby is a faster game than league due to the rucks, and rolling mauls.

    Its about tatics on the ground level, not in the air.

    Not sure of the solution to Wilknson and the like who play air rugby?

    Kneecapping?

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