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    hi everone,i get over 80 spam mail every day i log on its a real piss off.is there a program you can get free or buy that can kill these pesky things.most are finance or porn stuff,im sure im typing in peugeot not porn when i search for sites,might be a typo,he he.any help please.ps dont send any spam or ill kill my pc.thanks.

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    You could use a program called Mailwasher Pro. It sits between the server and your email client, and presents you with a list of messages classified as blacklisted; filtered; or "friends". You can download a list of filters from the website, or create your own. As spam messages come in you add the sender or the entire domain to the blacklist, and set the program to delete blacklisted messages from the server. That way, you never even see the blacklisted senders. You then launch your email client and download just the messages you want.

    I receive up to 100 spam messages a day in my servers mailbox, and Mailwasher Pro manages to filter out about 90% preventing them from getting to my Inbox, so I never even see them. I highly recommend the program - best of all it's free! You can get it from here www.firetrust.com
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    I find the easiest way to not get junk mail is to have 2 accounts. If you sign up for anything sign up on the other account from the one you get your important email on. And stay away from the web based email hosts! Hotmail and Yahoo get a shitload of junk mail and i dont think there is any way to stop it! With emails you download to your couter you at least have a little bit of control using programs like the one mentioned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennymarsh
    I find the easiest way to not get junk mail is to have 2 accounts. If you sign up for anything sign up on the other account from the one you get your important email on. And stay away from the web based email hosts! Hotmail and Yahoo get a shitload of junk mail and i dont think there is any way to stop it! With emails you download to your couter you at least have a little bit of control using programs like the one mentioned!

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    I use a yahoo account for anything that requires registration such as software downloads etc and listing on the car club web page etc. I only give out my "normal" home email address to trusted senders such as Alan, Shane, gibgib, Greenblood, porno.com (oops)

    Yahoo has a report spam and block addresses feature and anything that comes in that smells of spam goes to your bulk mail box.

    Another way to prevent spam is to put NO details in MY PROFILE in your IE settings. That way it is more difficult for sites to collect info about you.

    Overall I get very little spam.
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    thanks for the help,ill try and set up something and see how i go.thanks again. :>

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    I tried using spam filtration software on my parent's account to some limited success.

    Once on the list the email account pretty much stuck there. Somehow the email address will start doing the rounds via the email resale rings... *sigh*.

    And just like bennmarsh, I use two accounts, one for friends, and legit transations like forums clubs etc, and another for the "rest". Seems to work for me.
    And hotmail email account gets trashed every evening. I just browse through the headers and unless there is an email from someone i know/expect it gets deleted. CTRL-A select all works well shortly before the DELETE key gets used

    you may want to consider using adaware software and using browsers other than IE. Every little bit helps.

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    Guess what....it's apparantly getting much worse overseas and getting further into the system.
    I still can't believe anybody could be stupid enough to deal with these tossers; try to bounce an e-mail to half of them & you find they're using dodgy e-mail addys.
    You'd reckon if nobody patronized them they'd just go broke.
    Is it all the 4WD drivers trying the "patches" and adding all the "inches" that keeps 'em in business??

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    The ones that annoy me are the ones i supposedly send to myself about Nigerian buisness deals. I dont understans emails that well but i dont get how my email address ends up in the header section as the sent from address?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekkie
    And just like bennmarsh, I use two accounts, one for friends, and legit transations like forums clubs etc, and another for the "rest". Seems to work for me.
    I have also been using e-mails this way, fine for years, until one day I received a virus e-mail from a supposedly trusted sender, and from then on my proper e-mail account gets 3-5 spams a day and growing....so annoying...

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    I'm using Mailwasher, you can see at a glance the good, bad and ugly.

    Funny thing the latest spate of junk I am receiving is for 'Spam detection software'!!!!! oh the irony

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    Default anti-spam software

    Absolute nightmare isn't it.

    It became so bad at work (our email addressed are embeded in our website etc) that we landed up purchasing some commercial software. I did some research and eventually chose GFI Mailessentials and it has been brilliant. It has a very sophisticated rules engine and blacklist/whitelist management system as well as a new Bayesian filter (learning engine) in the latest version that filters out probably 99% of the 1000's of spam emails we get every month.

    Granted, this isn't free software but if you have a business and are looking for something to manage spam with say Exchange this one works pretty well.

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    Like Chris, I use Mailwasher but the thing I can't understand is that every day I get all this long list of crap all marked "Blacklisted" and can hit the button & delets them, but is there any way that these things can be set to simply not accept these blacklisted ones the same as an IP ban prevents things from being posted on boards?
    Also, I don't know if anyone else with Mailwasher has found this, but I'll swear some of these %^&*( are also somehow managing to disable the mailwasher as about once a day as I'm decrapping my mailbox, I get a total lock up partway through deleting.

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    Tip.

    Never open a HTML email from source you don't know (or do it off line), why? They add links to them (like to a picture - a single pixel is enough) that has a unique file identifier with the email address they sent the spam to encoded in it .. naturally whan you open it, it looks for this file .. hit's their server and automatically confirms your e-mail address is valid .. bingo added to another spam list.

    I HATE HTML mail anyway - give me the content, not 50 different size fonts and colours !!!

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    do many Aussie ISP's have a spam watcher?

    My ISP here can identify spam and mark it [SPAM], or delete at thier end, its quite useful and its free
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    yes the ISP i use and agent for also does that
    i think it's good as they mark it as spam if it looks anything close to spammy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Like Chris, I use Mailwasher but the thing I can't understand is that every day I get all this long list of crap all marked "Blacklisted" and can hit the button & delets them, but is there any way that these things can be set to simply not accept these blacklisted ones the same as an IP ban prevents things from being posted on boards?
    Also, I don't know if anyone else with Mailwasher has found this, but I'll swear some of these %^&*( are also somehow managing to disable the mailwasher as about once a day as I'm decrapping my mailbox, I get a total lock up partway through deleting.

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    I use it too...I've been trying to find out if you can make it automatically process the mail, but I don't think you can. BTW, make sure the DNS blacklist server option is checked, as SpamCop (one of the lists it uses) just about detects every bit of spam. I've read that SpamHaus is good too and have just added it; sbl.spamhaus.org

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    The junk mail filters in Outlook 2003 are really good. Much better than the ones in Outlook XP.

    The silly server-side spam filters at work like to flag emails that I send out and cc to myself as junk mail; it does a very good job at making false positives, and as yet hasn't prevented ONE piece of spam they use Spam Assassin.
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    I've noticed on my Optus mail account, the spammers seem to be scanning just the first 2 letters in the address, as each spam is cc'd to 10 addresses starting with the same 2 as mine, and all to @optushome.com.au.
    It used to be sh1t loads of porn, now it's pill, patches, Nigerian millions & a group perporting top be e-bay, details including card and pin numbers. !!!yeah right!!!!
    I subscribe to 4 humour sites yet i'm getting 30-40 emails a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by rek
    The junk mail filters in Outlook 2003 are really good. Much better than the ones in Outlook XP.
    Outlook 2003 spam/junk mail filters sure are excellent. My parents just upgraded to Outlook 2003- brilliant!

    I use Apple Mail myself, and it gets almost all the spam filtered off itself. I'm running at about 20-40 spam emails a day, mostly through my uni e-mail account. I can't wait until the beginning of next year when that account is officially closed!!! The spam I get at my uni account is clearly as Damien describes. I'm [email protected] - you get e-mails addressed to d.<any surnamehere>@student..... all addressed one after the other.

    Why UNSW's been targetted, I don't know! Dave McBean & Billtran, do you get heaps of spam through uni email as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX2PUG
    I did some research and eventually chose GFI Mailessentials and it has been brilliant. It has a very sophisticated rules engine and blacklist/whitelist management system as well as a new Bayesian filter (learning engine) in the latest version that filters out probably 99% of the 1000's of spam emails we get every month
    All GFI Software is bloody brilliant. I use their fax server at the moment at work. If I ever upgrade our system to have our own mail servers etc, I'd use GFI software for sure. To top it off, the Australian crew are really nice people. I met them at some show at Darling Harbour this year (can't remember what it was called). The boss Richard actually saw my name badge and said "Hey we sold you some software I remember the name Rock Around The Block" Not bad hey

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    Stuey and Alan S..

    I use it too...I've been trying to find out if you can make it automatically process the mail, but I don't think you can.
    Yes you can.. Just set the blacklist options to "auto delete blacklisted messages" . For example if you have *@*.ru in your blacklist, any messages that arrive at your ISPs mailbox with "ru" (from Russia) on the end, will be deleted and you wont even see them.

    Also, don't set the auto bounce option; it's a waste of time and effort as most spammers are using randomly generated names and domains. Unless of course you have a genuine email address you want to delete.

    Mailwasher also has on their website a comprehensive list of pre-written filters and a blacklist you can copy into your setup, and then modify to suit yourself.

    BTW, I am not a Mailwasher reseller, I just think it is a very good program.
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    Thanks Brodie. I'd seen that option before but went to set it and couldn't find it again...! I thought I must've been dreaming.

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    I just set up the trial of WebCentral SpamTrap here at work ($33/year after 30 day free trial)

    http://www.webcentral.com.au/docs/pr...ng%20Solutions

    We'll see how it goes.

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    Brodie,

    I can't find that option on mine either but I see that I have version 2.0 and the current version is 2.04
    Which one are you running?

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