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    we have to get together and order a shipment from Japan!!

    pre 87 and there is no large tax and conversion to be paid I heard?!

    RENAULT

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    ^^ hope you Njoy.
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    <a href="http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e28000208" target="_blank">http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e28000208</a>

    Is that a Williams Clio? unF! *runs to check if I have a lazy $32k laying around* cry

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    Yummy stuff, but where did all these left hookers come from in Nippoland?

    Obviously Renaults couldn't have been imported as local cars, so I wonder how big the rust bug is in ome of them from their days in Europe??

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    I reckon they are imported new? That would be my guess, these guys look after their cars^^! so who is in!? They are some beautiful looking cars! wow, I need them I have to be rich in the future. Better do medicine!! ^_^Y
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    The Japanese have a thing for ordering Euro cars in LHD. I beleive most suppliers will sell LHD or RHD cars.

    The RHD cars are the ones to watch though, and if they are over 15 years old they are very easy to import. Most of them have extraordinarily low mileage too.

    Take a squizz through this list.....most of them are JDM stuff but it seems there is a growing market for Euro's from Japan;

    <a href="http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/stock/default.asp?mode=Available&sortby=StockID&order=de sc&items=30&page=1" target="_blank">http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/stock/default.asp?mo de=Available&sortby=StockID&order=desc&items=30&pa ge=1</a>

    These are the sort of things I'm talking about;

    <a href="http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/stock/details.asp?StockID=1386" target="_blank">http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/au/stock/details.asp?StockID=1386</a>

    <small>[ 10 October 2003, 07:32 AM: Message edited by: macquered ]</small>

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    Take a close look at some of the ricers with the small mileages & ask yourself why. It seems to me that dashboard tune ups seem to be the order of the day over there. I've seen a hell of a lot that have obviously done heaps more miles than those shown, being an ex tyre kicker you tend to get a first impression prior to reading the numbers based on a lot of small items, & few if any ever have log books.
    I recently queried the reason with someone associated with grey imports, as a similar model car here will have say 250K and theirs will have around 60K (seems to be the favoured figure) wink
    I was told the mileages shown are referred to as "Auction mileages" but he wouldn't elaborate, so use your own imagination.
    The excuse for the low miles is usually to do with limiting miles on older cars & their strict regulations on car ownership so to say they import LH & RH drive cars to me seems a little out of kilt with the low mileage story. I reckon ones got to be wrong.

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    I'm missing something. How does driving side affect mileage?

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    me still want!! ^_^ I the benzers are driven by old ladies so they r safe 4 sure! But where r the froggermobiles? its a conspiracy!! cry
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    Guys
    Alan is on to it. Over here in the shaky isles, there have been many scandals/examples of "clocked" odometers on Jap imports-ricers, Euros, etc.
    This trade is bent as there is so much money to be made on grey exports from Japan-they are going to UK, Africa, NZ, Pacific Islands, probably Indonesia.
    It is buyer beware country. In saying that about 8 years ago I bought a 1989 Pug 205 XS(1360cc) carby sports hatch back, in truly immaculate condition. Speedo read 46,000km, rear seats and carpet look liked they had never been used, boot similar. It was ex Japan & was probably a woman's car(2nd car in family) but it had no log book.
    We had a great run with it, costing only oil,filters,plugs and a CV joint boot in about 3 years and 45-50km of ownership. We only sold it to buy a 1.6 205 CTi cabriolet, which we have been more than pleased with. It was NZ new but had a higher mileage, but only 1 owner & log book and owners handbook.
    Just be careful with grey imports.
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    macquered:
    I'm missing something. How does driving side affect mileage?
    I don't know that I said that it did; what I was saying was that (regardless of which side the wheel's on) the mileages shown on a lot of the Jap imports worries me greatly.
    They import these so called "drivers cars" that according to the speedo haven't been driven.
    I saw one in a recent Damaged Auction that had 45K & it was 14 years old. Most in the yards importing them have between 56 & 68,000 klms regardless of age.
    Do the maths; the 45K @ 14 years job had averaged 62 klms a week the rest they have them averaging out at about 100 klms a week.
    If anyone can swallow that as fair dinkum mileage, well it could be a good idea never to question the tooth fairy.. :p roll_lau roll_lau

    The point I'm making is, don't get too carried away by the advertised mileages.
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    Originally posted by Mi16freak
    <strong>.....they are going to UK, Africa, NZ, Pacific Islands, probably Indonesia.....
    Also to Russia and former USSR countries in huge numbers, I'm told.

    They don't seem to have much trouble selling the cars, or the front cuts, the tyres or anything else...

    Planned obsolesence gone mad!

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    Sorry Allan, I misread your wording. I get it now wink

    In regards to low mileage, I do beleive that for the most part the quoted mileage is accurate. Theres not a lot of driving they can do over there.

    I don't doubt there are some dodgy readings though.

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    This mileage business in "smaller" countries is a bit of a mystery box. It would seem that whilst we think of them only travelling shorter distances by comparison to the size of this place, what we don't allow for is that due to the population size, they tend to have bigger & better freeways and as a result, tend to commute to a greater degree than we do.
    In the UK there's one guy with a BX that has 900,000 miles on the clock (1.5 million klms) and speedo readings in excess of 200,000 miles aren't all that uncommon.
    I know of one guy who travels around 125 miles a day each way to work and again, that isn't all that uncommon. This coupled to the Japanese almost phobia with hard driving over long & twisted courses that have to be way out of town to be even feasible for them to use, tells me that these low mileages they quote have to be the exception rather than the rule and as I say, the old gut feeling at a cursory glance at paint touch ups, repadded seats & new pedal rubbers coupled with the heel marks in the mats and the odd fag burn hole, tells me that all is not quite kosher.

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    They send 'em to South America too, and make dodgy right to left conversions.

    I had the "pleasure" of riding in a cab in Bolivia with the speedo and instruments in front of me while the driver steered the car via a steering wheel sticking out of glovebox on the other side of the car. I wasn't game to look at what they'd done with the pedals.

    Got some photos somewhere, should try to dig them up...

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    Yes please!

    Maybe the pedals were done as they are for a dual control driving school car? Did you have to go for the brakes at any time?

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    They send 'em to South America too, and make dodgy right to left conversions.

    I had the "pleasure" of riding in a cab in Bolivia with the speedo and instruments in front of me while the driver steered the car via a steering wheel sticking out of glovebox on the other side of the car. I wasn't game to look at what they'd done with the pedals.

    Got some photos somewhere, should try to dig them up...

    JG.
    ROFL !!! unbelivable. Please dig up the photos.

    ow, tears are streaming down my face, my imagination took hold as I imagined getting into the drivers seat while the steering wheel was on the opposite side.
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    Another thing I heard about Jap imports was that they can spend many hours in traffic jams etc, or can spend hours with the heater on in a car park. Whilst the milage might be low, the engine wear can be high.

    Also beware of different specs in Jap market cars, I seem to recall Jap RX7's being fitted with 7mm windows, while export cars had 8mm thick, makes the sourcing of parts very difficult.

    Also, as Jap cars are scrapped after 8 years, so are the spares,

    As mentioned above, many Jap imports came to NZ, some gave good service, many were high milage lemons.

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