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    HI.....

    just thought id say Hi to everybody...as u can see
    i m new on this forum...i own a white 205 gti 12/87 and obviously a 1.9....i ve had the car for more than 2 years now so i know it pretty well....
    i think they are a SENSATIONAL car and i doubt that there is a car that can deliver so much for so little money...ie great handling and power in stock trim...i was a detailer at one stage of my life so if anybody has any car care enquiries i might be able to help...(i actually instructed detailers and have worked for many companies icluding RACV so id like to think i know what im talking about)...anyway if you c a white GTI with R O N I N plates thats likely to be ME behind the wheel....unless its like 6 am and one of the windows appears to be smashed and the driver has the seat so far back his backward-facing baseball cap is touching the rear seats...
    in which case u should call the police and report a stolen car...(stopping the car and actually beating the crap out of that person, although strictly illegal, is not a bad idea either)

    4 am ...time for some zzzZZZZzzZZZ

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    welcome to the forum!! A detailer, ey? hmmm...so how do you manage to keep the grey plastic on your 205 nice and grey and unfaded? How do you do you stop wax/polish from staining that plastic?

    hehe, right in there with the questions I am! I actually don't have any grey plastic to worry about, but I've always been curious about it as with other cars that was my biggest problem area.

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    I love your plates

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    GTI124,

    ArmourAll and the like work wonders on 205 plastic
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    I love the plates too

    I use Castrol Tyre Gloss on my tyres and plastic.. It lasts for weeks, and is amazing stuff. Even after all the rain last week, my tyres and bumper trims were still jet black after I washed the car Saturday arvo. We buy it in a 4L tin at a Caltex servo - use it on all the trucks - but i'm sure you can buy a smaller bottle.

    It's silicon based, so I assume that's why it lasts so long compared to Amour All which is gone after 1 rainy day in my experience.

    Used to work wonders on the XM grey plastic too.

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    Hi Dino! I think I've seen your 205 at the Coles on Tooronga Rd. I remembered the cool plates!
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    Armour All? Yeech! Tyre gloss on plastic? Yeech!

    I was using the Meguiars vinyl and rubber conditioner on previous cars, but it never got rid of the wax residue.
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    eyyy Dino. Welcome to the Boards, dood wink .

    Awesome choice of ride and sweet sounding plates .

    I drive (enthusiastically, i might add) a 205GTi, as well. Its an '88 graphite grey with personal plates and a aussiefrogs sticker on its arse. So if ever ya see me, honk your horn and we could play chasey on blacktop .

    chin cheers! chin,

    pugjet

    P>S. hey DTwo, go on, ask Dino if he knows how to change a flamin clutch... if he does, might do yours for free .

    Oh, the plastic extensions around the car? i use turtle wax tyre wax... its a little sticky to the touch, but looks a treat for several weeks.
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    I find Eagle One Tyre Shine to be great, it's a clear liquid, similar to what the good dealers look.

    The tyres look jet black, which is in a different league to Armour All black

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    Yes, Armour All black tends to look brown pretty quickly, and is always a dull black.

    I also made the mistake of soaking (well, not *quite* literally) my dash in Armour All, so now when I drive in the sun it reflects very strongly on the windscreen. It also evapourates into an annoying haze on the windscreen as well. Oh well, I plan to buy a dash mat for my car in a week or two.
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    I believe in never touching the interior with Armour All - it does no good there. Makes things slippery, overly reflective, cheap looking, etc.

    I've seen a 307s dash covered in Armour All, it looks terrible - it wasn't mine!

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    OK....where do i start...well perhaps i should mention that i work part time at the MALVERN AUTObarn (which by the way is closing down very soon)so i am familiar with most of the products that are available OFF THE SHELF...first i think armour all is a crap product (even though we sell it)and i try to tell my customers that, i do not recomend it for internal use because its very greasy, gives off vapours --which usually end up on your windscreen --anyway, u can ceartinly use it but in the long run it will do more damage than good....externally ..well it just doesn t last very long etc etc....there are many products which are much longer lasting (some of which are mentioned above)....i wont really recomend any because most of them are silicone based....although 303 is not and is a proper protectant (its only failing being lack of lustre which many people chase...personally i dont...
    u guys with new cars like the 307 etc...nothing beats a wipe over with a moist cloth....modern dasboards and interiors are pretty tough....WHEN it comes to my 205 ...well what i did is basically take everything of (external plastics) clean them up with PREPSOL (PREParatory SOLvent) prime them with plastic primer and repainted everything GUNMETAL grey...i also replaced the aluminium RED inserts with rubber versions....and it all basically looks very original...only a close inspection by somebody who knows 205s would be able to reveal the trickery...BUT basically what i want to say is when u polish or wax your car KEEP AWAY from plastics...especially if they are textured....the polish build up and the australian UV just dont help....yes that was me at tooronga....and no i havent got a clue about doing a clutch on a 205 but it cant be that hard, ive done golfs before,,
    front wheel drive....clutch is a servicable item so it should not be a big job...2 hours max for somebody that hasn t done one before....probably a two person job though....tx for the replays...and remember malvern autobarn:usually thursdays,saturdays and sundays...u dont have to buy anything ...drop in for a chat or advice....

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    prevention is the best cure, ey? Well that's what I thought, just couldn't be stuffed taking masking tape to the areas I need to be careful around. Oh well.

    Yes, Eagle One is a good product, shame it's promoted by John Laws, all credibility goes out the window. It does get good reviews, on sites like <a href="http://www.autopia.org" target="_blank">www.autopia.org</a>

    I'm switching to some US products like Pinnancle soon which does very well on Black finishes. Gold Class is good, but my baby deserves more.
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    Has anyone ever used a "Simoniz" product called "Back to black" on plastic & vynil?

    It comes out like toothpaste but is a wax type stuff that is put on like a polish, left for 5 minutes and polished off. My old CX had a black vynil top & this gear would last easily 6 months and kept it like new.
    I also once used a sunscreen produced by the skin institute at the Brisbane Hospital on the dash of a Mazda I owned and the results of that were unreal. It was a UV screen with no cosmetics and scents in it which made it's chances of something being a bit allergic to vynil much less.
    Couldn't imagine the specialists at teh Hospital being too enthusiastic about writing out a script if they knew why you wanted it though mallet

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    gee....Armour All was only an example :p

    It's great on bumpers though, you just slide off obstacles .....trolleys, walls, other cars....pedestrians

    if only you'd had some on the front of "chloe", pugjet!
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    Hey Alan,
    like the bit about sunscreen on the dash!! good work, What made you decide to try that?
    Many years ago I tried polishing my old Torana with 'Mr Sheen' furniture polish. Came up beautiful, shiny as buggery. Don't know if it may have been causing any damage at all, but gee it came up nice.

    cheers!

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    I'm using the Meguiar's Natural Shine on the dash at the moment. Trick is to apply it and wipe it down with a terry towel. If you don't you get that horrible sheen and reflection. The sheen is also wet and tends to attract more dirt and dust.

    I need to get some leather stuff from my wheel, appears some Meg's Glass Cleaner or Natural shine got on my steering wheel and it's not very grippy at the moment.
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    dino:
    ...clutch is a servicable item so it should not be a big job...2 hours max for somebody that hasn t done one before....probably a two person job though...
    2 Hours, I dont think so. If you havent done it before and you have a Hanes manual you'll probably be looking at around 6 Hours min.

    Wheels come off, suspension and driveshafts need to be disconnected, gearbox has to come out, engine has to be tilted clutch has to be removed, flywheel machined, new clutch put in, gearbox back in (pain in arse) put everything back where you found it and walla 6 hours and numerous beverages later ...
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    Having just done my 205 clutch, I doubt if I could do it under 8 hrs again. Just getting the shafts out is a one hour job if you don't have the right tools. Then getting it back in, is hard as the gearbox is so heavy. I've done a Golf too, and they're a snack in comparison.

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    Dino didn't mention how many mates he had helping him. I reckon you put on a BBQ and a slab that gets open AFTER the work is complete and you could get about half a dozen mates around to help you.

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    A few guys would definetly make the job a lot easier, and with the promise of beer afterwards... cheers!
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    GTI124:
    Armour All? Yeech! Tyre gloss on plastic? Yeech!
    Lincoln,
    All I can say is this Castrol stuff works well. I know they call it tyre gloss, but I think it's much more than that. It's silicon based, and says it's suitable for plastic and rubber. My bumpers are still jet black after 2 weeks now, and the tyres come up a whole lot different to Armour All. That's the reason we use it on our trucks at work: it stays on Why spend big money on Meguiars if you don't have to?

    I'm sure you'll see it next drive Remember I have a hell of alot more black plastic than your GTI :p

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    I was originally under the impression that silicon-based car products were bad and should be avoided. Fact or fiction??

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    silverexec:
    I was originally under the impression that silicon-based car products were bad and should be avoided. Fact or fiction??

    Richard
    From an autopia.org thread:
    All silicone is not bad, it is the type of silicone that matters. When people say "silicones" are bad for paint, they are referring to dimethyl silicone oil. This is the cheap, greasy, oil, that shines like crazy and is in some detailing products. It is a fact that this type of oil on your paint can be very difficult to remove as it finds it way and leaches into cracks and voids. If it is not removed completely when repainting a panel, "fisheyes" can form in the paint. This is confirmed in an article out of Professional Carwashing & Detailing Magazine. Oct 2000 issue - Caring For Today's Automobile Finishes. "....Detailers should polish with non-silicone, body-shape-safe products. Silicone causes fish eyes. Occasionally, vehicles are polished and then need paint repairs within a very short period of time. If silicone-based products were used and were not cleaned off properly, they can cause fish eyes in the paint finish...."

    But there is much debate over this, checkout <a href="http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8061&highlight=silicon" target="_blank">http://www.autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8061&highlight=silicon</a>

    You may need to register though...it's an interesting forum.
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