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    Peugeot 305? + Screen caps from Ronin

    What exactly was it? From what I've heard and the few things I can find on the internet, it was a mini version of the 505, except it was fwd??

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    I was watching Ronin the other day, and I think I found one in it, the grey/green coloured sedan in this pic:
    <img src="ftp://njms_area:[email protected]/crash.jpg" alt=" - " />

    Were they any good, and if so why didn't we get them?

    <small>[ 17 November 2002, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: nJm ]</small>
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    <a href="http://www.peugeot305.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.peugeot305.co.uk/</a>

    Being introduced in 1977/78 the 305 would have been a natural competitor for the Renault range which was already in trouble in the late 1970's in Australia. Renault Australia would have not really wanted the competition regardless of how good or bad the 305 was in comparison with the Virage and soon to be be introduced 18.

    When Leyland acquired the Peugeot concessionaire from Renault Australia, the 305 would have been very expensive in its class due to the various tariffs of the day. Also it wasn't engineered with airconditioning in mind, an emerging essential option for the AUS market in those days. That would be another reason for the 305 not being sold in AUS.

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    I always thought it looked a bit boring, and a little quote from that website says it all:

    Press reviews were good. Most people liked the modern design, the spacious interior, the handling and, as one magazine article put it, the lack of 'Gallic eccentricities'.

    It doesn't look nearly as interesting as a 504/505. It has boring square shaped lights, etc.
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    "All of its cars from the 1.1 litre 205 through the ugly duckling 309 to the 2.2 litre 505 GTi had a rightness and a righteousness about them that turned every humdrum drive into a journey. Someone, I once wrote, in the bowels of Peugeot understands handling and how a chassis should feel." - Jeremy Clarkson

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    Not a bad pic though - managed to get a Citroen Xantia in there as well. No Renault? Couldn't it keep up? dance
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    Yeah, it is a pretty good shot. I love that movie - it introduced me to the 605 as well (I didn't really know they existed until I saw Ronin)

    For lots of photos of the 406, 605s and some of the XM from Ronin have a look at my screen caps:
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/2.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/2.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/3.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/3.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/4.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/4.jpg</a>

    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/5.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/5.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/6.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/6.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/7.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/7.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/8.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/8.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/9.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/9.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/10.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/10.jpg</a>
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/11.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/11.jpg</a>

    They should be of a high enough resolution to be made into a windows desktop pic if you want.

    <small>[ 17 November 2002, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: nJm ]</small>
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    nJm:
    <a href="http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/10.jpg" target="_blank">http://users.bigpond.net.au/njms_area/ronin/10.jpg</a>
    Is this a prototype of a new Aerospatiale short-take-off-and-landing private jet? wink

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    Oh by the way. How do you take screen captures from a DVD?
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    I was playing it back on my PC in PowerDVD 4 by Cyberlink I think. You can just click on this little capture button and it sends it to a bmp file. Look up the help for the software on your PC, it should say.
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    nJm:
    What exactly was it? From what I've heard and the few things I can find on the internet, it was a mini version of the 505, except it was fwd???
    Nick,

    The 305 series 1 (1977-1982) was based on 204/304 mechanicals and replaced the 404 in the Peugeot price line up. The 305 series 2 (1983-1989) was based on BX/405 mechanicals and was a much better looking car than the series 1.

    I have a friend who used to own a 305 and he siad it handled very well. He has been racing Peugeots since the 1950s.

    Series 1 (and history of the 305):

    <a href="http://www25.brinkster.com/p305/history.asp" target="_blank">http://www25.brinkster.com/p305/history.asp</a>

    Series 2:

    <a href="http://www25.brinkster.com/p305/images.asp?Category=21&DispImage=1" target="_blank">http://www25.brinkster.com/p305/images.asp?Category=21&DispImage=1</a>

    Find out more about the 305 here:

    <a href="http://www.peugeot305.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.peugeot305.co.uk</a>

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    <small>[ 18 November 2002, 10:11 AM: Message edited by: fiveohs ]</small>

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    Cmon Craig "we create cars". Laguna best car under 50000. Clio best car under 25000.
    Were all in the same boat man.....

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    nJm:
    I always thought it looked a bit boring. It doesn't look nearly as interesting as a 504/505. It has boring square shaped lights, etc.
    I agree as far as the Series 1 305 goes. It is boring.

    ..but I disagree about the Series 2 305. It looks quite nice.

    There's also the fact that the Series 2 305 was available with the larger and more conventional XU 1.6 and 1.9 litre engines, and they have a conventional 4 stud wheel pattern.. They seem to be just a nice size to me (900-1000kg), and in 1.9 litre form they go very well (the 1.6 is no slouch either).

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    <small>[ 19 November 2002, 11:20 AM: Message edited by: fiveohs ]</small>

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    UFO:
    Not a bad pic though - managed to get a Citroen Xantia in there as well. No Renault? Couldn't it keep up? dance
    Renaults are too precious to smash up for a two star movie...

    As for the movie "Les Visiteurs", well that's a whole different thing...
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    I agree with you Europa they are too precious....

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    The Series 2 305 in "GT" 1600-5 speed guise was a nice car. It certainly looked like a small 505Gti, had a roomy back seat and comfortable front seats. It was typically Pug FWD a good handler and nice direct steering. Mine was a dark navy blue. The engine/box were good, but minor rust had got into door skins, so I had rust cut out and new sections welded in, and doors repainted. It came up looking good, and while everything was AOK I flogged it for $4000 profit to a lawyer(reverse shafting!) and put the money aside for my wife's intended 205 CTi Cabriolet.
    My 305 1600 was the only one in Auckland, and had been privately imported from Hong Kong(the air con unit was stuffed & was too costly to fix/replace.
    Altogether it was a good town car, big boot and it had P.Farina style.
    Cheers

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