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    Phillip Island Sprints 23/8...

    I didn't go, but my brother Nigel did. For anyone who was there, he was the guy with the smick silver Alfetta who was flagman shuttle.

    He says the Pugs were impressive and held there own against more powerful opposition. Cars there included Bill Hamilton's 404 V6, Rob Cherry's 504 V6, Brian Ward's Mi16, Polson's 205 GTi, and of course Daniel the R12 nut's excellent 12! Daniel, my brother was surprised at the pace of your 12, says it looked good on the track.

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    It was good to see a 404 and 944 neck-and-neck off the mark! Nige overheard someone commenting on the Mi16 cornering on three wheels yet still hangin' in there.

    Daniel, tell us about your experience!

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    I was there too, competing in the black Clio Sport....

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    Hey dave,
    where did you get your eibach springs? How did the clio handle around the island. i remember hitting about 180 down the main straight last time i was there and taking turn 1 at around 120 (in atrociously wet conditions). i also remember getting sideways onto the dirt going up to lukey heights (when i backed off the throttle a bit). What were your lap times? I'm so jelous i couldn't be there.
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    Well, the day started off really early. The weather was pretty good to start with. After the practice runs, I was flagmarshalling for the first two hours of timed sprints. When it was my turn, the clouds opened up a little, and conditions were worse. My best time during practices was a 2minute 30sec run, however my best timed sprint run was a 2min 35sec.
    My top speed down the main straight was 145-150. And around 125-130 around turn one.
    I think that i was probably the slowest car there, but you just wait till i get the G on the road. Although, wippers were required for my last timed run!! And they dont work to well at 140km down the straight! lol
    Overall it was a consistent day, made for some spectacular driving. The main thing being that i got the car home in one piece, and i didnt get black flagged!
    Was a great day, and was a bugger more of you couldnt have been there!

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    [QB]I think that i was probably the slowest car there, but you just wait till i get the G on the road. Although, wippers were required for my last timed run!! And they dont work to well at 140km down the straight! lol [QB]
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    One thing I've found with these events is that you don't need to come first - you just have fun. Most of us aren't going to come first anyway, there are only so many people that can come first

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    lucin:
    Hey dave,
    where did you get your eibach springs? How did the clio handle around the island. i remember hitting about 180 down the main straight last time i was there and taking turn 1 at around 120 (in atrociously wet conditions). i also remember getting sideways onto the dirt going up to lukey heights (when i backed off the throttle a bit). What were your lap times? I'm so jelous i couldn't be there.
    Hey Luan, I have Apex springs ... the Eibachs were not available at the time, but they are now. I got mine from Donnellans in Box Hill, and they cost $600 fitted. I found the service at Donnellans to be very good, and they fitted the springs (with new wheels and tyres) while I had breakfast at Maccas down the road. They had four guys working on the car at once, like a pit crew!

    The Clio handled brilliantly around the island circuit. There was slight understeer in the two slowest corners (especially Honda, which is a really tight 180 degree hairpin), but the balance of the car was superb through the 3rd and 4th gear sweepers. It was great being able to get the tail out slightly on Turn 2 and just powering through with all four wheels screaming for mercy in 3rd gear. Yeehaa!

    Philip Island is a very fast, flowing track which takes a fair amount of dedication and faith in your car to get the best out of it. I found myself getting faster during the day as my confidence grew, but there were still parts of the track where I was downright scared to push the car to its limits, like Turn 1. If you lost it there, it would be a big one.

    The Clio was doing around 150 getting onto the main straight, then changing from 4th to 5th gear at around 180 over the start/finish line, before reaching 190 at the end of the straight. I have no idea what speed I was doing through Turn 1 as I was too focussed on the track, but it felt like around 140-150 in 4th gear.

    In terms of lap times, as Dan mentioned above he got a best of 2:35 in the R12. The Polson pair, Matt and his dad Reg, got best times of 2:14 and 2:11 respectively in their modded 205GTi. Brian Ward produced an excellent 2:07.60 in his 405Mi16. I set a best of 2:15 in the first session, 2:10 in the second, and 2:07.59 in the third session, pipping Brian by 0.01 seconds! Sorry Brian.....

    Anyway, it was an awesome day and I'm looking forward to going back there again some time. It would be good to have some more AussieFroggers down there too.

    Dave

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    John(peujohn) - did you get my post regarding my car and did it answer your questions?
    I did! Thanks Daniel. Sounds like your 12 and my 504 would be a nice pair! I'll have a good look at it when our paths (or wheelmarks!) cross.

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    Brian Ward produced an excellent 2:07.60 in his 405Mi16.
    What mods have been done to that car?

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    Cal:
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    Brian Ward produced an excellent 2:07.60 in his 405Mi16.
    What mods have been done to that car?

    Cal.
    I think it's standard. The guy can drive.

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    peujohn:
    Cal:
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    Brian Ward produced an excellent 2:07.60 in his 405Mi16.
    What mods have been done to that car?

    Cal.
    I think it's standard. The guy can drive.

    John
    Last time I saw the car, over a year ago he only had semi slicks.
    I doubt anythign else has been done, it's his daily driver...excellent time, especially for a 2.0 wink

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    Andreas:
    peujohn:
    Cal:
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    Brian Ward produced an excellent 2:07.60 in his 405Mi16.
    What mods have been done to that car?

    Cal.
    I think it's standard. The guy can drive.

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    Last time I saw the car, over a year ago he only had semi slicks.
    I doubt anythign else has been done, it's his daily driver...excellent time, especially for a 2.0 wink
    Correct, Brian was running his Yoko semi-slicks. I believe his only other mods are upgraded shocks. Brian is a very experienced driver and he knows how to get the best out of his 405.

    The Polson's 205GTi was also running semi-slicks (Dunlops), with Eibach springs, upgraded shocks, stripped out interior, roll cage, and beefed up brakes. Reg told me that the tyres alone were worth at least 4 sec a lap over the standard road tyres. The suspension mods were required because the additional grip of the tyres was causing excessive body roll, resulting in guard rubbing with the standard suspension setup.

    I was going to get some semi-slicks for the Clio, but ended up using the standard road tyres this time. They seemed to hold up during the day, but they were definitely the weak point of the car. Next time I will definitely be investing in a good set of semis.

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    The bloke MUST be able to pedal. Awesome time for an Mi16. I will have to get mine out to the track and stop driving my ricer all of the time.

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    Cal:
    The bloke MUST be able to pedal. Awesome time for an Mi16. I will have to get mine out to the track and stop driving my ricer all of the time.

    Cal.
    ...especially when the rice gets beeten by a 205Mi off the lights :p

    You should be able to pedal the Mi16 around QR in 1:07's shoudln't you?
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    Hi Cal...

    Are you in the running for a TNF badge? If so, I'd like to know what number you'd like between 55 and 65, with 57 and 62 not available...

    Oh, yeah, on topic... 2:07.6 is about the same as I did in my Clubman years ago. Of course the circuit was longer then...

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    Ray Bell:
    Are you in the running for a TNF badge? If so, I'd like to know what number you'd like between 55 and 65, with 57 and 62 not available..
    TNF badge? Nostalgia forum? What does it look like? Is it a raffle or something?

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    [quote]Brad:
    You should be able to pedal the Mi16 around QR in 1:07's shoudln't you?
    I was thinking more like 1.09's......

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