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    Ok guys I didn't want to bag but had to let you all know.

    Just spoke to Esscargo on the phone and I made it relatively clear (or appear so) I knew nothing about my options on discs and pads for the GTi6.

    According to Esscargo DBA, DO NOT supply discs for the GTi6!!!! When I questioned him that I heard they do he still insisted they don't. Also even though I said my car is simply a run about he suggested that I get the Turbo Groove discs @ $234ea. Although normal for most sales guys I was quite diasappointed.

    Therefore, I will not be contacting them again.

    Where else in Sydney can I purchase DBA discs and perhaps Ferodo, Bendix of Pagid pads? Also, as I(no-idea) along with my gf's brother(mechanic) are going to do the work ourselves is there anything we need to know or require before we get started. Although he's a mechanic he hasn't touch a Pug hence why I'm asking.

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    I don't think Esscargo has many friends on Aussiefrogs.

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    Try:

    <a href="http://www.racebrakes.com.au/" target="_blank">Race Brakes</a>

    <a href="http://www.dba.com.au" target="_blank">DBA</a>

    Note that the DBA catalogue only lists the N5 series 1 (ie 1997-99). I have no idea what the difference is between them and the update models.

    <small>[ 22 August 2003, 03:29 PM: Message edited by: MYT205 ]</small>

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    Oh and I expressed my thoughts on them in my other thread..... mallet

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    Pug307:
    I don't think Esscargo has many friends on Aussiefrogs.
    Why would you name your company something very close to Escargot snail - is it their neurons that move that fast ??

    Am I missing something ? - never dealt with them so no comment on their service.

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    Esscargo said i could get 20kw from my 8v 306 just by having a tuned exhaust+k&n filter pffffff... yeah right whistle moon

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    Ok I've been quoted $250pr for DBA dics and $60pr for Bendix pads.

    Would this at least give me a factory feel?

    Also, are the DBA's harder wearing than factory as I may put my EBC pads back in later as they have about 85% life left. Only problem I can see is that the pads have not worn evenly due to the disc therefore would this cause me headaches with the disc warping, etc?

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    Kristian, Voytek and I were talking about brakes in the Parts For Sale section, under his Green Stuff pads for sale... see if that helps you out...
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    GTI124 yeah I followed that thread. I have no need to go to the greenstuff pads or grooved disc.

    It's hard to tell but anyone know wether the EBC discs would wear better than the DBA or vice versa as I'm willing to spend extra for wear rather than for extra grip as the factory set-up does the job for me.

    Was thinking perhaps EBC disc with the EBC black pads as another option?

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    You could buy some aftermarket discs from Ken at Caravelle Imports in Melbourne:
    (03)98909061.
    They are about $100 each i think, maybe a bit less.
    They are imported from Europe, and would give you a factory feel...close too anyway...

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    i got my discs and pad from STAR PERFORMANCE at five dock, he can order anything in and take 2 days, got frong and rear ebc discs and greenstuff pads for a bit under $900

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    I have also used Star Performace and have found them very helpful, just expect some stirring about french cars!!!!!
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    parry:
    just expect some stirring about french cars!!!!!
    [email protected] yeah they gave me heaps about it being french.-
    Funny thing is BOTH Star Performance and Esscargo have treated me VERY well, both price and service well.
    Starperformance have sales every now and then too, so watch for discounted gear.
    I know some of us here have been burnt by Esscargo, whilst i have never had an issue, if others have then just DONT return and take your hard earned else were... Im personaly not happy that others have been treated badly, but at the same time ive seen LOTS of absolute goobas come into the workshop and just literaly waste time. Wanting big changes for little outlay or research. Amitedly they are the new breed of Cafe-Pugers who don't have a clue or any real reason to own a Pug.
    But bad customer service is just that, so sometimes the best statement you can make is not to return and spend else were.

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    but at the same time ive seen LOTS of absolute goobas come into the workshop and just literaly waste time. Wanting big changes for little outlay or research. Amitedly they are the new breed of Cafe-Pugers who don't have a clue or any real reason to own a Pug.
    I agree,
    I had a customer phone me the other day, and he called me an Incompitent Prck simply because i didn't have a shop in Sydney Metro area, he could call in, and get a hubcap, for his 306 xt.
    So i guess he's out there telling everyone that i'm unproffesional, what do ya do... mallet

    The market is so competitive these days, that you make literrally nothing out of greensuff, and Koni gear, you can't justify keeping $4000 of stock to make a return of 10%... It's not very good business sense, there are 7 different types of pads, just for the 306. So just because a supplier doesn't have it on the shelf, doesn't make them a bad supplier... However customer service is a must!!!!!

    Cheers
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    <small>[ 23 August 2003, 12:59 PM: Message edited by: Cant_get_enough_of_peugeots ]</small>
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    Chri'S16
    but at the same time ive seen LOTS of absolute goobas come into the workshop and just literaly waste time. Wanting big changes for little outlay or research. Amitedly they are the new breed of Cafe-Pugers who don't have a clue or any real reason to own a Pug.
    I agree,
    I had a customer phone me the other day, and he called me an Incompitent Prck simply because i didn't have a shop in Sydney Metro area, he could call in, and get a hubcap, for his 306 xt.
    So i guess he's out there telling everyone that i'm unproffesional, what do ya do... mallet

    The market is so competitive these days, that you make literrally nothing out of greensuff, and Koni gear, you can't justify keeping $4000 of stock to make a return of 10%... It's not very good business sense, there are 7 different types of pads, just for the 306. So just because a supplier doesn't have it on the shelf, doesn't make them a bad supplier... However customer service is a must!!!!!

    Cheers
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    Do you know the details of the guy wanting th hubcaps, i've got 4 in decent condition.

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    Unfortunately no!

    He hung up on me, after abusing me, when he found out i was mail order only...

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    Cant_get_enough_of_peugeots:
    Unfortunately no!

    He hung up on me, after abusing me, when he found out i was mail order only...

    Cheers
    Adrian
    Trust me it happens in all industries Adrian. We have people ringing up at work thinking we are a *manufacturer* of product for an English company (I don't know why?? We only retail the products) and then they are disappointed we're mail order/online sales and don't have a shop around the corner from them. It's not uncommon for people to have a rant.

    People should be happy to buy over the phone. Usually they can get better service and stuff is almost always shipped immediately.

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    I have had no major problems with Esscargo but I find it amazing that supposedly Peugeot specialist would give such misleading information. DBA's can be purchased through most automotive parts suppliers and the GTi6 is listed on the DBA catalogue. I can't really remember how much mine were but it was a 1 day delivery time, and they fit perfectly. If you want nicely matched pads to get your through everyday driving Bendix (France) makes a set and is imported by Dapco (Dapco, 52 Stanley St Penshurst NSW
    Phone No 95345388).
    The brake feel is phenomenal in everyday driving and the bedding in process was painless. Email me in case you want to check the combo on my car.
    cheers
    Voytek

    PS. I do not know how well the pads would stand up to continous abuse such as might be experienced on track days, and they seem to be a lot more dusty than EBC.
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    tekkie:

    PS. I do not know how well the pads would stand up to continous abuse such as might be experienced on track days, and they seem to be a lot more dusty than EBC.
    dust is something i can put up with very easily
    if they are dusty then i know that the discs aren't wearing away
    i'd prefer to change pads rather than changing rotors
    at the moment i grab a can of brake clean and clean everything i can usually once every couple of months to keep everything clean and clear out as much of the brake dust as possible
    also prevents the little squeaks you sometimes hear if they aren't clean
    when and if mine ever wear out i'll probably go the DBA route and put standard pads back in
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    ...at the moment i grab a can of brake clean and clean everything i can usually once every couple of months to keep everything clean and clear out as much of the brake dust as possible
    also prevents the little squeaks you sometimes hear if they aren't clean
    when and if mine ever wear out i'll probably go the DBA route and put standard pads back in[/QB]
    I had the Bendix on my car now for about 4000 kms and they are very quiet and have a very nice progressive feel.

    edit: And I agree washing those 5 spoke wheels isnt really a major problem. I would probably change my opinion on this if I had multispoke wheels.
    As to the wear on the pads vs rotors... some rotors are cheaper than pads......

    <small>[ 24 August 2003, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: tekkie ]</small>
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    Chris,

    To date my electrical problems have been fixed Paul is god afterall

    It was simply a bad earth although he didn't stop there as the gauge was still moving about dramatically turned out the needle was loose and need re-calibration (spelling?)

    Regarding retailers/resellers people get peeved for all sorts of reasons I only get peeved when lied too or made to fell I'm making their job/life difficult by asking some very reasonable questions.

    Appreciate some comments on the following brands & prices;

    DBA $112.50ea
    Brembo $126.50ea
    Bendix $60.50fr.set (European)
    Bendix $85.00fr.set (Ultimate)

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    as per my previous comments above. I would have no problems using DBA's again.

    And the Bendix (France) seem to grip very nicely as well.

    EBC though can be used aggressively and still grips very good from cold. I have heard that Ultimates are hard compund that can scar the rotor in extreme situations.
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