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    luff versus finlay ....

    .... driver courses.

    I'm trying to weigh up the 2 day Peter Finaly "Race/Rally" course against the 2 day Ian Luff "stage 1 & 3" course. The cost is $650 and $495 respectively.

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    I know some of you guys have posted positive feedback in relation to Luff's ..... has anyone completed Finlays?

    Any thoughts (other than price being the decider)?

    cheers
    ashleyt

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    Tough call here...

    Luff the attention seeker versus Finlay... well, better not go into that!

    I wouldn't feed two bob to either of them... Jim Murcott used to be good, take a trip to Melbourne or maybe see if you can get into the one that Tony Longhurst (or is it Frank Gardner?) runs on the Gold Coast.

    Or, better still, find safe places to try things and just get a heap of practice in.

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    Ashley,

    You know my feedback on Luffy course, I have heard that the Finlay course has less track time on the Oran Park but a whole course (GP circuit) is used.

    it is a 2 day course as well but a lot less in-car advice seems to be given.

    This is 2nd hand information from a friend that has done Finlay course and we compared notes.
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    After the absolute balls up that was the Hillclimb "going to be held" by the Finlays I wouldn't go anywhere near they do again.

    On the other hand I have only ever heard positive feedback about the Luff courses from a lot of people.

    Darren

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    What happenned with the Hillclimb?
    90 205 Gti Cherry Red(Track Car)
    2009 207gti
    1985 505gti (Shitbox Rally) Sold

    PBs:

    Oran Park: 1:27:9
    Wakefield: 1:05.6 (July 2015)
    Eastern Creek: 1:54 (8v) 1:48 (16V)
    Mt Huntley: 34.44 (2004 stock 205)
    Ringwood: 35.06 (30/10/2005)
    Winton: 1:33.6 (2017)

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    Keep in mind Luff doesn't acutally run the courses himself. Ian Kimber and Warren Luff (his son) seem to do them all

    I'm not 100% sure on who runs Stage 3 however.

    Derek.

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    Derek,

    Actually Ian and Warren Luff were at my course.
    Both were there for a whole day when the advanced part of the course (stage3) was held on the race track.

    Finlay course:
    I agree with Darren the ballsup organising the hillclimb really put a a shadow on their courses (possibly unjustly).

    Ashley,
    There is another option...
    There is company that has track days where you drive their cars... Suzuki Swift GTi MK1 ('86 square type) stripped to bare metal, plastic windows, race seats etc, with the same power to weight of the V8 racer. Its held at Wakefield. If interested I can find out the details.

    other courses:
    <a href="http://www.sdt.com.au/SDTCOURSES.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sdt.com.au/SDTCOURSES.htm</a>
    <a href="http://www.murcott.com.au/highperf.html" target="_blank">http://www.murcott.com.au/highperf.html</a>

    <small>[ 09 July 2003, 10:21 PM: Message edited by: tekkie ]</small>
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    oops double posting...
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    thanks guys, yeah its a tough one... finlay course enables you to apply for C3 cams + you're eligible for Targa.

    Anyway may put in the backburner for the moment as parry is hassling me to do the next supersprint with him at E-creek.
    ashleyt

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    Tekkie, those little swifts do 1.09s at W/field!

    Look at your potential
    ashleyt

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    I KNOW !!!!! Im looking very hard

    But I want to remain in the CSCA class 1, and CAMS class2 regulations fos SS. So interior remains, windows remain glass, vents heater etc remains ... ahh but wouldnt it be fun....!

    My CAMS L2S came through. SuperSprints here I come. And Parry is right. You ARE coming wink (right?)
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    Um, i can only speak of the Luff course, lots of fun and it suits frog roll_lau owners coz they are the first to point out how competetive a good handling car can be versus a hi-horsepower machine.
    I had both Ian Luff and Warren Luff jump in my car. Ian attended both 1&3 sessions. One thing that i wish i done was the Formula Ford course... maybe next time.
    I fell like i owe my times at Wakefield, 1;21's Vs 1:17's (no car changes either) to the Luff course. Its not the only factor, but it helped for sure.
    cheers Xq
    ... ptui!

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