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    Car and driver limits.

    A non-scientific poll on the self assessment of driving ability. "Average" - not a statistical average, a subjective average (up for personal interpretation).

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    Interesting but predictable results. Majority of drivers so far say that they don't know their limits but then on the second question a majority regard themselves as above average drivers.

    Surely if a driver regards themself as above average they should have a better idea of the limits of their ability and the car/s they drive.
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    I voted that I was an average driver. I think that to believe anything otherwise is foolhardy....

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    i answered "yes"

    I have tested the limits of my car and they have never failed to impress me , they would have to be well above average.

    I have also found my limits as a driver (this never impresses me) and therefore ensure that i drive within them, not on them, there's enough idiots out there trying to prove how good they are, why should i add to the dangers on the road??
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    after watching taxi on sbs last week, i'd say im an average driver
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    My car is much more capable than me...

    I can't run at 100km/h with a load of shopping, my car can.

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    McPug:
    I can't run at 100km/h with a load of shopping, my car can. I know my limits...
    Ben Johnson can run at 27km/h with a whole heap of Pharmacy product in him ....

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    Hi,

    Do people actually read these polls??

    My theory is NO.

    Do you think you know the true limits of your car and your driving ability ?
    20 people answered yes

    If you answered NO to question 1 - where do you rate yourself ?
    14 people told us they answer yes to question one. Where did the other 6 go??

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    What does that say about the people that answers YES to question 1 and "think" they know the limits of their car and driving abilities ??? I hear you.

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    Interesting poll...

    For me I know I don't know the true ability of me or my car, since I have only being to a track day event for 3 laps, and it wasn't my car...

    However I feel that I am "above average" based on the driving abilities of family amd friends. If required I am confident that I can beat them (or at least rank 2-3 out of 10) in a competition of some sort...

    But then again, in a group of friends who go to track day a lot, I would be a s#!t driver then...

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    What do you define as an "average" driver? I cannot control a car on the limit as well as most people who have had competition experience, but I am better than most people of my age at just not having "incidents" (crashes or near misses) because I expect everyone else to be a drunk maniac who will crash into me if given half a chance. That has meant that I have only had 2 minor accidents of any kind, neither my fault, and with only a couple of scratches sustained. I have taken avoiding action on HUNDREDS of occaisions and succeeded because I have been travelling slower than most young drivers in the same circumstances.
    In that way I am above average, but in control on the limit I am only average, because I don't make a habit of driving on the limit on public roads. I would love some track time to improve this, but I am doing alright at keeping alive for the time being.
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    I guess we lost the results from the old board .. but from memory about 30% of people "believed" they knew the limit of their car and their driving skills. And most people "thought" they were above average drivers.

    I guess this was to be expected on an auto forum, but just remind me not to be on the raods when that 30% are there .... the first person who truely thinks they know the limits of their car and continues to "push" is bound for a big off and I know they are driving with at least one hand not on the wheel !

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC206
    the first person who truely thinks they know the limits of their car and continues to "push" is bound for a big off and I know they are driving with at least one hand not on the wheel !

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    that would definately account for just about every backward hat wearing, reclined seat, drainpipe exhaust, stickers and boomf boomf driver cruising up and down the main street every thurs,fri and sat nights wouldn't it ??
    we can't also forget that most of these people also adorn a P plate as well
    has anyone heard of the new regs in nsw that they are going to try and push through to put a curfew on P plate drivers ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    we can't also forget that most of these people also adorn a P plate as well
    The question is ... what does the P stand for?

    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    has anyone heard of the new regs in nsw that they are going to try and push through to put a curfew on P plate drivers ??
    Curfew is harsh ... but tightening up demerit points on P platers is not, plus making them resit tests for loss of license (if this is not already being done). Perhaps everyone should go back on P plates after they lose their license - afterall they must have done something to lose it in the first place ?

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    i forgot to add one of the most important things they are going to try and bring in
    they are also wanting to limit passenger numbers for people on L's and P's

    now then they limit or not allow passengers for a P plate driver that i think will cut down on the "c'mon mate floor/hammer/launch it" factor and in the long run they may survive their first driving years with out destroying a car or someones life
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    I agree with a limit on passengers.

    Curfue, well Its a good idea on paper, but in reality its not.

    The number of times I was a taxi in my first three years........ every weekend

    Limit on passengers also may limit the distances driven, and lessen the likehood of P platers driving on unfamiliar roads. I found this to be a problem. Giving someone a lift at 2am, to a place I had never been before, No idea about the condition of roads, blind spots etc, drunken yahoo's. Never had any problems personally, but I alwas feel safer on roads I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shobbz
    I agree with a limit on passengers.
    Curfue, well Its a good idea on paper, but in reality its not.
    Curfew and a limit on passengers will be difficult to bring in ... it is an affront to civil liberties. Taking away someoneís privilege to drive ... now that hurts.

    Also the police should start checking licenses at RBT's ... there are many unlicensed or disqualified drivers still driving around (I've known some) .. in all my years of driving I can't remember ever being asked for my drivers license (guess I've never been booked so that helps) .. About the only thing my driverís license is good for, is applying for a new bank account!!!

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    i think the curfew is a bad idea . they havent considered the problems that would occur if they did put this ban on the younger members of our society. for example if they put the curfew on them from 10pm-6am - P platers are not going to have the suffiecient experience they need under there belts because when it comes to getting there full licences they are not going to have any experience with driving at night time, managing fatigue and driving with passengers so really that wont be that experienced on their full license. Also another factor bought to mine is that crime rates are going to go up.. eg - if there out near curfew time and get stuck in traffic, car problems or loss track of time they are going to speed home to get there on time and also i think alot of them are going to be taking their p plates off to avoid curfew time. Alcohol drinking by teenagers is going to rise because they dont have to worry about driving home so there going to start drinking again and also crime on the streets is going to rise as alot of the teenagers will be relying on walking the streets at night time to get home

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    Okay, folks, I'll try to interpret for you...

    "under there belts" = 'under their belts'

    "getting there full licences" = 'getting their full licences'

    "bought to mine" = 'brought to mind'

    "if there out near curfew time" = 'if they're out near curfew time'

    "loss track of time" = 'lose track of time'

    Otherwise, just slip in the odd comma etc and you'll get the gist of it...

    I think we should congratulate EJL for finding this old thread on the same subject as the one he got locked yesterday... good work mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    Okay, folks, I'll try to interpret for you...

    "under there belts" = 'under their belts'

    "getting there full licences" = 'getting their full licences'

    "bought to mine" = 'brought to mind'

    "if there out near curfew time" = 'if they're out near curfew time'

    "loss track of time" = 'lose track of time'

    Otherwise, just slip in the odd comma etc and you'll get the gist of it...

    I think we should congratulate EJL for finding this old thread on the same subject as the one he got locked yesterday... good work mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    Okay, folks, I'll try to interpret for you...

    "under there belts" = 'under their belts'

    "getting there full licences" = 'getting their full licences'

    "bought to mine" = 'brought to mind'

    "if there out near curfew time" = 'if they're out near curfew time'

    "loss track of time" = 'lose track of time'

    Otherwise, just slip in the odd comma etc and you'll get the gist of it...

    I think we should congratulate EJL for finding this old thread on the same subject as the one he got locked yesterday... good work mate!
    Good on ya Ray, show everyone how good your english is .

    Your such a ****in hipocrit ray, remeber that "daewoo" thread, where you had a go at members for not being nice to a new member, well what the F*ck are you doing now ??

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    Interesting that most people think a good driver is one who knows the limits of their car & themselves... some also think that the way to measure how good you are is around a track...

    I figure we're talking about how good you are as a driver on the public roads... So what about saying i'm an above average driver because:
    * i always reduce speed & increase gap in the rain
    * always aware of who/what is around at all times
    * curtious to other drivers & let them in, dont cut them off etc

    "Good" drivers should be thinking about safety, of themselves & of others!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJL
    if they put the curfew on them from 10pm-6am - P platers are not going to have the suffiecient experience they need under there belts because when it comes to getting there full licences they are not going to have any experience with driving at night time
    Not true, you can gain experience through coaching & building up your skillset gradually, not by throwing yourself in at the deepend!
    Perfect your day time driving then you can move onto night driving!

    Quote Originally Posted by EJL
    managing fatigue
    WTF??? how do you think you can "manage" fatigue?
    The only thing you can do about fatigue is sleep... the question is do you do it behind the wheel or in bed!

    Quote Originally Posted by EJL
    Also another factor bought to mine is that crime rates are going to go up..
    More people = more crime? ummm i suppose statistics could support that...
    are you saying all P platers that dont drive are criminals???

    Quote Originally Posted by EJL
    Alcohol drinking by teenagers is going to rise because they dont have to worry about driving home
    I fail to see your logic... this is really an odd statement...
    Are all teenagers alcoholics too?

    You must have a very unique bunch of friends...

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