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    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
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    We made it home !!!

    Well Guys,

    she's home. Gotta admit I didn't have much confidence that it would make it. That free CX2400 C-matic listed here, well she's in my possesion now

    We got to Ashes parents place at about 9:30am. I'd never seen a CX before with a factory sunroof. It certainly is nice (pitty my head sits on the roof inside wink ).

    Anyway, We'd been studying the manual and thought the cars problem could be with the gearbox points or electrovalve. We took a switch and several long lengths of wire with us. The intention was to break/make the gearbox switch (ie: clutch) so we could get it home.

    This didn't work... Anyway the car sounded pretty sick, just general tuning will fix that (running very rich & dropping the ocassional cylinder at idle).

    The car had been running hot so I went to get a spanner to bleed the cooling system, from the street I could see the coolant was pouring out as fast as it was being filled wink ). We plugged the hose on the c-matic oil cooler and tightened it's clamp. So far so good... Sort of.

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    Being a CX it was a bloody mongrel thing to get the bleed (as usual). It boiled a couple of times before it settled down.

    Now, onto the gearbox, we earthed the gearbox contact points wire so the car could start in gear. A quick drive up 200meters up the road, proved this should work.

    Saying our goodbyes and thanks to Ash and his father (after looking at his DS23 automatic) we went to leave.... Bugger the car won't start.

    More airostart, nope ... No spark. hmmmm... I thought I'd make it to at least the end of the street ... roll_lau roll_lau .

    A bit more diagnosing finds no power to the coil, and a dud fuse (that looks ok). I swapped this fuse with it's neighbour and the car started again.

    The trip home?? Uneventful really. The car could be driven by picking the revs (like a manual with a broken clutch cable). I only started in first if the traffic lights were on a really steep hill. The motor would miss and carry on to badly and I had to keep it revved up a little.
    2nd was better and there was less torque available, so the motor wasn't labouring agaisnt the torque converter.

    The car missed a few times. It was rather unsettling sitting at the long traffic lights with the car missing the way it was, threatening to stall.

    After a 20minute detour cause the idiot driving the CX(me) decided to head to Geelong (as opposed to Ballarat). After doing a U turn and coming back to the Ballarat turn off the CX faltered, dropping several cylinders, the caught again with an almighty backfire... Ok I'll be MUCH happier when clear of the traffic.

    Once on the highway if was effortless cruising, a few times the speedo nudged 140km/h (woops) while overtaking people, the (very strong) motor is much happier at high revs.

    We changed cars about 20kms out of Ballarat, Dad was very surprised how well this car goes (as was I, my car when it was a C-matic never went this well), I warned him not to sneeze as the Daravi cable doesn't appear to be hooked up (ie: superlight steering at all speeds) eek! eek! .

    Anyway we finaly got home, she's no CX turbo though, proved by Dad who nearly completely washed it's front end out through the 'S' bend pulling into the street I live in (I think it gave him a hell of a shock !! roll_lau ).

    Ash, thanks for the help this morning (and the Car). I'll certainly let you know what I eventualy find.

    seeya,
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    Real cars have hydraulics DoubleChevron's Avatar
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    woops, forgot to add the pics!!

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    <small>[ 11 May 2003, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: DoubleChevron ]</small>
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    And you parked it in the driveway blocking in two (or more) other working cars. Hmmmmm..... mallet

    Did you tell Ang before you went or after you got home? whistle
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    UFO:
    And you parked it in the driveway blocking in two (or more) other working cars. Hmmmmm..... mallet

    Did you tell Ang before you went or after you got home? whistle
    Lay quids that he's been buttering her up all week.
    "I know yer not a mum, but I got ya a present fer muthers day" deal

    "Oh Shaney" (giggle) "you shouldn't uve"

    "Yeah, I know; but Ang, I know it's something ya really, really want!!"

    "Oh can I guess??..... An eternity ring??" "Nope" whistle

    "That expensive dress I was looking at in Myers a few weeks ago?" "Nope...yer not even gettin' warm."

    "You've bought that display home we went to see? The one with the 4 car garage on 5 acres?" "Gettin' warmer..........look, I can't keep ya in suspense any longer, I go & get it first thing in the mornin'."

    "Ya there love???? Here it is......a CX C-MATIC!!!!!" "Now don't cry....I didn't when you just gave me the black eye & called me an unromantic #$%^&*(!1" mallet

    Ah yes, I can just see & hear it all; been there done that!! roll_lau

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    Alan S:
    [Lay quids that he's been buttering her up all week. Alan S
    OO-ERR! eek!


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    Hi Guys,

    It's easy, all week I've been telling Ang the car goes to my parents house, I've been promising mum it's coming to my house. Well back in January and the day of my mothers birthday I was offered a free CX (strictly parts car) localy. I couldn't help myself ........ I turned up at my parents house with it on a trailer HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!! dance dance Er, how do I put, she wasn't impressed (not wanting a birthday present, how insulting mallet ).

    Luck has it, today is mothers day, I turned up down there in the CX ... HAPPY MOTHERS DAY !!!! Would you believe ... She wasn't impressed. Neither was I, I couldn't believe it she was turning down another present that took me a lot of effort roll_lau roll_lau roll_lau

    Now I've just gotta try & sort this car. I'll blow a quick coat of paint over the roof & bonnet and sort the C-matic, then decide where I'll go from there.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    You need directions to find the doghouse?

    Surely not now you don't...

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    Ray,

    mate you don't know the worste of it. At my parents place I have stashed two CX2200 pallas 4spds (without power steering), 1 Renault fuego, and a Dspecial.

    At my place, hang on I'm gonna have to think about this:

    --My origanal and first Citreon, the '78 CX2400 5spd pallas (that I've owned for over 11years).
    --'78 GS 1220 pallas
    --'78 GS 1220 pallas wreck
    --'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    --'63 ID19p (aussie built)
    --'88 BX 19tri (yeah I know modern & boring, but hey ...).
    --'85 CX2500 GTi Turbo.

    So yeah, could you believe Ang gets a little stressed if I even **hint** about looking at another car Really I can't understand why ...

    And oh of course, we now have Ash's CX 2400 C-matic pallas here. Um, that's all I can think of.

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

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    As Dave McBean will testify (I think...), there was a time when I had about 30 cars in my yard. I'm no stranger to this situation at all...

    But I did have an acre those days.

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    Hi Ray,

    actualy, I don't want any more cars, I'm more than happy with what I have (once I have a nice early DS19 to restore).

    My favorites obviously are the D's. I really like CX's and can't help but try to rescue any decent car. BX's?? Well I guess I can tolerate one of them for the time being (while it keeps Ang happy :p ).

    10years ago I would have seen Ashes car and straight away started looking for a manual gearbox to plug into it. Now, I'm much happier just to keep it as it left the factory. I'm sure in the future C-matics will become a fascination to some poeple as there's very few left world wide (Australia has the bulk of 'em, and you can hardly give them away unfortunalty). Why unfortunatly??? Well as the cars worth very little, if the gearbox plays up, parts for them cost thousands to buy so the car is wrecked disappro I think Alan S has one of the very few decent C-matics left in the country.

    This is what used to happen with DS19's, and look how collectable they are now (CX's due to the fact they are CX's though will never be as collectable as DS's though).

    seeya,
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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    [quote/]

    "This is what used to happen with DS19's, and look how collectable they are now (CX's due to the fact they are CX's though will never be as collectable as DS's though)."

    Shane.

    Don't know how to tell you this, but I can remember the days you couldn't give a DS away either. I've been in car yards when they've driven in & the reception was "I hope you don't want to trade THAT do you?" deal as they walked off and sent the most inexperienced salesman in the yard to "waste" time talking to them; they used to terrify the entire motor trade, so to wipe off a CX at this stage as never going to reach the status of the DS I think is being a bit premature.

    mallet mallet dance mallet mallet

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    I think he's saying the opposite, Alan...

    In other words, you've confirmed what he said has happened.

    But if this is so, how come there are so many DSs and IDs lying in yards all over the place?

    <small>[ 12 May 2003, 11:58 AM: Message edited by: Ray Bell ]</small>

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    Hi Alan,

    I'm positive that oneday CX's will become collectable (ie: worth more than the petrol in there tanks). However what I'm saying is they will never reach the status of D's. No matter how old they get. A 'D' is a 'D', there's nothing that looks like it, there's nothing that drives like it. It was 'the first' with hydraulic suspension etc. Where as the CX will has everything that's been already done. ie: hydraulic suspension, daravi steering, etc... All done before.

    A classic it'll be, though it'll never rank as highly the DS & 2CV though. They are just *so* unique. (I can name a handfull of other cars that look just like a CX, try that with a 'd' or 2cv).

    seeya
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    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
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    First (and only, as far as I'm aware) with self-centering power steering, first with that wonderful barrel speedo, first with.... ok, so there isn't much, but they're still a beautiful car if done up nicely. There's a lovely black 2200 around the corner from me that is in line for my last AF sticker.

    Good to hear you got back ok Shane, and I hope that the car does end up back on the road - it'd be a shame to let such a lovely car die!
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    Hi Ash,

    no worries there, I pretty much made up my mind that I'm going to tidy it up wink I've just gotta find the time to have a look at the gearbox (one night this week I hope !)

    Won't take me long to look at the gearbox I hope. I've pretty much decided to blow a bit of paint over it and get it running properly. That should just about do it!

    Betcha can't wait to pick up the 19GT??

    seeya,
    Shane L.
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    Proper cars--
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I
    '63 ID19 http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90325
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas (last looked at ... about 15years ago)
    '78 GS1220 pallas
    '92 Range Rover Classic ... 5spd manual.

    Yay ... No Slugomatics


    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual

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