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    306 s16....update

    ok guys and gals....it looks like the day has finnally come ...recieved some payments finnaly which will clear today and i should be picking the
    s16 either this afternoon or tomorrow morning...as expected the dealer offered a really bad offer on the jeep ($7500) and he was very very tight when it came to dropping the price on the s16...so i thought STUFF IT....i ll pay cash (but i had to wait for some payments hence the delay)....so i went back yesterday and made a cash offer...i just received a call this morning confirming acceptance (they managed to squeese an extra $100 out of me but at this stage $100 extra is not something i would quible about)so i m very happy with the deal....

    Considering the saving i have made with the deal i ll have money to spare for an alarm, wheels, strut brace, exhaust and possibly a new head unit...

    SO....any of u guys have any of these hanging around??? I think i can get the strut brace through work pretty cheap, the alarm and the stereo will come through work as well (love working for AUTOBARN ) What i m really after are some wheels.....genuine preferablly (originals)this car has afetrmarket wheels but i just dont like them....i d preffer originals on it...

    not long 2 go....

    cheers!

    dino

    ps...whats the deal with suspension on these cars....should i tinker or leave alone......has anybody installed konis on their s16....comments??
    Also....am going to work this afternoon to pick up
    new plugs, OIL (probably give the MOTUL synthetic a go..the racing stuff from motul is about $90 but what the hell)
    i ll order a set of leads and possiblly look at new filters.....i figure money well spent....i think i ll be safe with the timing belt for at least another 40 000 kays according to service books....

    cheers again....thanks for your replys... head_ban

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    Congrats dino!!
    From all reports the s16 one hell of a pug, cant wait to see it puggin around melbourne.

    It seems its car buying "silly" season over in melbourne with yourself buying a pug, my dad about to buy a 406 and some other dude buying a sitreon c3 all within a few weeks. Seems like there maybe some new cars at the next melb AF cruise cheers! .

    btw what year is your s16???

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    Congrats Dino! Hope you enjoy the S16 when you get it. Keep us updated on any modifications you do to it, because I am looking at doing some soon.
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    Congrats Dino. I think you'll find it hard to find the original wheels for it. If you could send me a pic of the current wheels I may make an offer for them

    I was thinking of similar mods and well despite other peoples opinions and my own I reckon leave as it when it comes time for new exhaust, shocks, etc then go get whatever you want

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    WooHoo...I remember vividly the day I got to pick my S16 up. Had to work the whole day and it went like a snail

    I have OEM wheels and would consider a trade depending of course on how much I like the ones you have. Mine are not perfect, though I do know it does not take much to clean them up.

    Regarding strut braces, I'd be interested in on too if you could give me a price.

    Koni's, speak to Ray Bell about these. He can get great prices. AFAIK you can't get externally adjustable shocks for the S16, though I may be wrong.

    Eibach and Apex both make lowered springs for the S16. My preference would be the Eiback as the Apex I have just don't feel right and are a little noisy.

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    Hi Dino,

    The 306 S16 wheels come and go from time to time. I'd be interested to know if you can get strut braces for 205 and 405 as I have many customers chasing them. Speak to ray about koni and I can get good deals on eibach springs.

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    How much for springs Nick?
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    Nick, how much for the Eibachs? (GTi6)

    Also, do you have any S16 wheels lying about for the 306?

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    It seems its car buying "silly" season over in melbourne with yourself buying a pug, my dad about to buy a 406 and some other dude buying a sitreon c3 all within a few weeks.
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    dino:

    Considering the saving i have made with the deal i ll have money to spare for an alarm, wheels, strut brace, exhaust and possibly a new head unit...

    SO....any of u guys have any of these hanging around??? I think i can get the strut brace through work pretty cheap, the alarm and the stereo will come through work as well (love working for AUTOBARN ) ) What i m really after are some wheels.....genuine preferablly (originals)this car has afetrmarket wheels but i just dont like them....i d preffer originals on it...

    not long 2 go....

    cheers!

    dino

    ps...whats the deal with suspension on these cars....should i tinker or leave alone......has anybody installed konis on their s16....comments??
    Also....am going to work this afternoon to pick up
    new plugs, OIL (probably give the MOTUL synthetic a go..the racing stuff from motul is about $90 but what the hell)
    i ll order a set of leads and possiblly look at new filters.....i figure money well spent....i think i ll be safe with the timing belt for at least another 40 000 kays according to service books....

    cheers again....thanks for your replys... head_ban [/QB]
    Good man, well done.
    Ok, i have 5 original S16 rims, in resonable condition, (85% A1), just some light scratches. But i wasn't planing to sell them. tell me how much you wanted to spend...
    My car has a OMP strut brace, which i picked up 2nd hand for $50, and it does make a diference, it gives better feel through the corner, and the car is more directinal, nothing major, but certainly noticable.
    Suspention is pretty good OEM, but yellow konis with new swaybars, and eibach springs will trun it into a train, short of custom coil-overs.
    Rear sway bar is a little soft and wears a little on older K'd S16 so see how the car feels first. Also consider a brake pad upgrade atleast.
    Why do you need leads???? S16's ave the coils sitting directly plugged into the spark plugs, has the car got external coils??? as for a new air filter consider the washable option. Timing belt shold be done at 80,000K;'s, please do this first, a head rebuild on a S16 done by a reputable shop is about $2500, and bent valves will only add to that.
    Good luck with your new toy Dino - Chris
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    Congrats Dino on the s16 you should luv every minute of it.

    Let me know about the strut brace, price and also what you think of the feel b 4 and after.

    Thnks

    and enjoy

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    i asked paul from autoparis about a strut bar for the 306 & he said he can get it for $350

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    purrr-geot:
    i asked paul from autoparis about a strut bar for the 306 & he said he can get it for $350
    ...woaw, that seems steep or just right for a full Sparco or Omp unit.
    Whiteline, will make up full custom unit for $175. - chris

    ps my 2ndhand omp for $50 bucks seems a bargain.
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    I've wanted a strut for a long time and been told prices similar to what purr-geot said, we must be getting ganked down in melbourne.

    Chris i was skepticle that the strut would do that much w/o more mods. Do you get the strut brace at the same time as you did your other mods? i love giving it heaps of stick into the corners but don't think i can afford to do the whole box and dice.

    Ps. Good work Dino, enjoy my friend.
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    the strut brace did little in actually improving the handling at all, but what was really noitcable is how much more feed you get up through the steeingwheel and the car did feel a little less lazy (not that it is at all) when changing directions. My car already has eibach springs and re-valved shocks. Its ok, but im getting the itch for coil-overs.....lol. - chris
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    How come no one has made one (strut bar) for themselves, im no DIY expert but it doesnt seem to hard to make, or is it????

    Cause i really want one!!! frown

    <small>[ 24 October 2003, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: purrr-geot ]</small>

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    You need to really TIG weld the joints and TIG welding is an art/trade on its own. Other types of welds will really just come undone too quickly. well im no pro and i can TIG but poorly. Even then, its also having acess to the cutting and materails too at a good rate.
    The thing is, i can understnad on a car like a MX5 or something like a Escort, but the 306 strut towers are almost bonded to the firewall that the change, as i said is minimal.. - chris
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    are those braces alloy ?
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    I would have thought strut braces would be chrome-moly alloy steel (4130). The same material good push bikes are made from. This allows thin walls but very high strength and easy to weld with MIG.

    <small>[ 24 October 2003, 10:00 PM: Message edited by: PeterT ]</small>

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    They varie, quite alot, and yes some are alloy, some are 2030, some are even bent solid rod, welded to endplates. But the ones i had made for my old Alfa were TIG'd. - chris

    ps Perhaps the Whiteline site will inform what they use ___ OK, checking the Whiteline site the only info i found was one saying tha their braces (huge range) are made from polished alloy. They varid from $170- $200

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    PeterT:
    I would have thought strut braces would be chrome-moly alloy steel (4130). The same material good push bikes are made from. This allows thin walls but very high strength and easy to weld with MIG.
    thats what i thought
    and if that bieng the case then they would be easy to replicate
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    maybe im just still a very poor welder, but at work im lucky have access to nearly all forms of welding (except argon). I fid TIG welds much more consistent and not as brittle finished as MIG, how ever the fitter here made me look VERY average when he welded unlike metals with a Oxy set and a single wire coathanger...lol. As for my old strut braces they were bent rod and plate, so hence the TIG finish, cheap at the time i thought - chris
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