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    the things they do to those poor little veedubs
    if it's not bad enough they go dak dak dak dak up the road but to go to so much trouble to take away that pregnant roller skate look they have and try and turn them into something that a child would think of doing
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    Take a closer look at the badges on the front and back.
    That's right, this is actually a Skoda.
    Yes, OMG, Skoda.
    There's a pic floating around here on the "when too many gauges is not enough", that's the interior of this car.

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    Yes, It's a Skoda which, for those that didn't know, means 'pity' in Chec and Polish. Ever known a more aptly named car.

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    Just one point, are or were Skoda ever rear engined?
    Unless it's a dummy, there's what appears to be a fuel filler cap on the front guard.
    I haven't had anything to do with Skodas for years dance dance but I'm sure they were front engined.
    A totally forgettable motor car, yet someone on one of the lists was praising them to high heaven yesterday.
    Possibly someone with a major drinking problem. mallet

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    That is appalling. That is 1 very sad european person...

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    REN TIN TIN:
    Yes, It's a Skoda which, for those that didn't know, means 'pity' in Chec and Polish. Ever known a more aptly named car.

    Ren
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    Wash your mouth out Rennie....those rear engined Skodas were basically glorified Renaults...the later ones were better engineered than their Renault antecedents. The coupe that has been abused in this photo was a beautiful bit of work, much better looking than any rear engined Renault you could name really, and that includes the mighty G and the Caravelle.

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    Time you thought seriously about an EYE test BogMaster, the only thing about this "c a r ?" worth noting is the time it took!!!! to turn it into a f----ng ugly ricecake or possibly the bucket loads of money it took.

    Aus is a great place everyone is entitled to an opinion & although we make quips & snide remarks we respect eack other right to that opinion.

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    Common Damien, as much as I admire your 10 and your obvious innovative genius, I reckon the Skoda 110 coupe in it's orginal form is a better looker than any rear engined Renault I can think of. The pic posted here is fugugly, but there is no accounting for taste, the f*wit responsible for wrecking the Skoda needs to be nutted.

    The detractors of the original car under that fiberglass crap are fundamentally slagging off a more refined version of the Renault 8/10 family. Remember that years before Skoda sold out to the Germans it was linked to Renault.

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    Alan...how come you know about my drinking problem? cheers! dance
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    This is what it's meant to look like: <img src="http://www.wartburg.fsnet.co.uk/images/IFA2002/skoda2.jpg" alt=" - " /> dance

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    Damien you don't have any relos in Czechoslovakia by any chance?

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    Actually no BogMaster i don't the basic car is very Renault like & the last is tastefully done lol that red thing should have been left in space with all the other crap
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    This is definatly someone with to much time (and money) on there hands.
    A friend of mine had a Skoda 110, a poor mans Renault 10 we called it, it may have been rear engined but it certainly didn't go or handle like an R10.
    He actually replaced it with an R10 and said the 10 was a far better car and that the only thing the Skoda did better than the 10 was break down.

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    Come on David....we've all heard geese fart before.

    Those rear engined Skodas were pretty well set up.

    What people say about these cars others will say about our cars...don't you admit to owning a Dacia? They copped a bigger slagging in some places than the Skoda and dare I say it the Lada Samara.

    What I find interesting about Skoda is how it built on the design strategy of the 8/10 and took it a bit further. The engine mounting system on the later models was really nifty, the relocation of the radiator to the front and the adoption of proper trailing arms for the rear end instead of swing axles also get my vote as being fairly sensible improvements. I'm not saying for a minute that the cars were as well built or nippy as rear engined Renaults or as reliable for that matter. Just in one case better looking, and in the later models better engineered.

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    Wash your mouth out Rennie....
    Bog, I'm not saying we should pity all Skodas, only the sick individual or individuals responsible for this one. They would have to be in the same category with those looney artists that wrap mountains in gladwrap or create sculptures from human excretement.
    I personally quite like the Skodas, I think they are underrated and, because they were cheap, have an undeserved reputation for being cheap and nasty.
    Someone once referred to the Skoda as the “poor mans’ Porsche”, but I think that’s stretching things a bit.

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    Hey everybody - this is the HUMOUR forum. This is becoming boring crap and is not funny.... mallet
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    Bogmaster,
    Have you ever driven a Skoda????
    Have you ever worked on a Skoda????????
    I have, quite a few times and beleive me what I said before is more than correct.
    I agree they sound good on paper, but thats where it stops.
    A modern Renault 12 sounds good on paper too, but when you own a Dacia and see the poor quality control you think again. I'm lucky with the Dacia that as thing break I can replace then with Renault parts but Skoda owners are not that lucky.
    The Dacia was 4 years old when I bought it (the newest car I'd ever owned) and the engine was worn out, the brakes were shot and the body was already showing signs of rust.
    Communist quality, what more can I say.

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    My goodness, what have I started here!?!

    Skoda was once a laughing stock but certainly not now. Since they are now owned by VW, the engineering and quality of build pretty much matches the other cars of the VW family. In fact, I saw a Skoda Fabia on the Princes Hwy the other day (an evaluation model?) and it is a very neat little car.

    Someone once referred to the Skoda as the “poor mans’ Porsche”,
    It's funny you said that Ren but you are actually not too far from the truth as you think. Porsche have assisted Skoda with their engineering expertise since the early 90s.
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    David Cavanagh:
    Bogmaster,
    Have you ever driven a Skoda????
    Have you ever worked on a Skoda????????
    I have, quite a few times and beleive me what I said before is more than correct.
    I agree they sound good on paper, but thats where it stops.
    A modern Renault 12 sounds good on paper too, but when you own a Dacia and see the poor quality control you think again. I'm lucky with the Dacia that as thing break I can replace then with Renault parts but Skoda owners are not that lucky.
    The Dacia was 4 years old when I bought it (the newest car I'd ever owned) and the engine was worn out, the brakes were shot and the body was already showing signs of rust.
    Communist quality, what more can I say.

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    Nah David I have never owned a Skoda, and haven't worked on one, but a couple of mates in my youth owned 110's in which i travelled from time to time and one of the local tyre franchises here in the ACT is/was owned by a Skoda fanatic. I spent a bit of time looking over a later model vehicle under restoration and basically David I stand by what I said.

    As for the aesthetics of the 110 coupe, they speak for themselves, hammer and sickle or not it's a great looking car. If I could find a 110 coupe I'd buy it tomorrow and tow the Floride to the tip.

    I know what you mean about the quality bit, I spend a fair bit of time under the bogbrat's Lada. Really well thought out and poorly executed.

    And despite the trailing arm rear ends, later Skodas had to be worked over to make them safe enough for the UK market.

    That doesn't make any of them pos per se...and the fact that cars like Skodas, Dacias and Hinos for that matter, are part of the frog family....toads I suppose you might call them, is worthy of recognition and some respect.

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    I'm about Skoda'd out at this point. dead

    David, how is the 4wd set up on the Dacia?

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    How's the 4wd set up in the Dacia?
    Wierd. It's an R12 front end, R12 motor and box with a tail shaft sticking out the end to a live rear axle and leaf springs. In normal mode it's rear wheel drive and there is a dog clutch type set up on the right hand drive shaft to engage the front wheels. To drive it, the front rides like a 12 while the back just bounce around behind it. What I said before about comminist quality, it's an 84 model and I've never seen so much rust in an Aussie delivered vehicle, last year I started cutting away the sills to find good metal, I stopped at the transmission hump. It now has a new floor, new A pillers, new inner and outer sill panels and most of the inner skirts are new. The right hand side is finished now and I've started on the left so it won't be on the road for a little while yet.

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