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    Doing 180's unintentionally...

    A few of us went on a nice little drive up to Mt Baw Baw. All wasn't so nice when a car in front of Pug505Exec's GTi suddenly caused him to brake and swerve from 100 with the rather spectacular result as seen in the photo here:

    <img src="ftp://njms_area:[email protected]/505spin.jpg" alt=" - " />

    That's right, he did a full 180 turn without using a handbrake! I'm sure either he or Justin (Pug307, who was a passenger at the time) will fill you in on the details. The white Celica in the photo was part of our small convoy (well, a celica, a cressida and a 505).

    <small>[ 28 December 2002, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: nJm ]</small>

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    Nick, THAT is a nice bit of action photography! eek!

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    I know. In retrospect I can't work out how I managed to get the camera out in time

    Edit: On our way back we saw the tyre marks Jason left there. It is quite amazing following them to the corresponding wheels!

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    nJm:
    I know. In retrospect I can't work out how I managed to get the camera out in time

    Edit: On our way back we saw the tyre marks Jason left there. It is quite amazing following them to the corresponding wheels!
    Bet the tyre marks are just about as good as the skid marks left elsewhere.

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    Excellent Pic Nick cheers! couldn't resist the the rhyme approve

    Pug505Exec nice piece of driving, saved yourself and a very nice Pug from becoming another silly season stat wink

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    Any sympathy for the front passenger

    We were just following a Mazda 323 braking to turn left, left our braking late and got a bit close, slammed on the brakes with the steering wheel about 15° to the right, some wheels lock up, the car spins around, leaving its mark on the road and some acrid smoke. It was no handbrake turn, and certainly unintentional. Fun to watch, but worrying as the front passenger, who potentially could be bent around a sign pole. I'd hate to think what would've happened had there been inclement weather, or traffic on the other side of the road at that time. We were VERY lucky!

    For a video of that intersection click <a href="http://206gti.net/vicrun170202/hairpin.mpg" target="_blank">here</a>. It's a video made during a 206gti.net run.

    Incidents like this remind you of the value of features such as EBFD, ABS and ESP. In dry weather on a straight road, a car should NEVER spin around like that.

    Fortunately everyone is safe, and the only souvenir we take from it is some fine photography!

    Drive Safely.

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    Wow Nick,

    Amazing photo! Glad all is alright. Justin that screeching followed by laughte in the video reminds me of my driving the last Sydney drive

    Nick: any plans for a drive down there in February?? I'm still up for it.

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    Derek.
    If your thinking of coming to Melb. For a run, make it coincide with the French Car Day on Feb 23rd, would get to meet lots of Francophiles & have a great doy of it. cheers!

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    That's a good idea. Ok everyone make sure you keep the weekends around Feb23rd free. I don't have a calendar for 2003 so I can't tell you what dates but I will get back to you!
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    OK Cool

    I go back to uni on March 3 so that's all good timing. I've got family in Melbourne so accomodation is no problem. They'll think I'm mad, driving to Melbourne to go for a drive, but hey.

    I'll make sure I have lots of stickers for the French Car Day

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    You know, a cropped and resized section of that pic (with just the 505 and the smoke/tyre marks visible) would make a GREAT avatar for someone.
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    Avatar sized and with more vibrant smoke/tyre marks

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    Derek,

    Actually, that video is from the 206gti.net site - they had a run earlier this year, and they happened to have a video of that precise corner!

    I was just talking to Jason just before entering this corner about how it was familiar, and thinking of all that squealing in that video. I take it it wasn't a cue to do something "bigger & better"!

    Believe me, we would've had a far more impressive video than theirs! I'm impressed that Nick managed to pull the camera out that quickly.

    The only problem I see with holding the drive on the same day as the French car day - you'll hardly have anytime to do anything properly. I found the last drive to be of a good length, relaxed with good timing to have a bite here and there. By the time you get to Melbourne, the car display will probably be drawing towards its end.

    Having it on the 22nd (Saturday) could be a good idea. Gee it seems so far away though.

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    Don't want to point out the bleedin' obvious, but I'd suggest somebody has a good close look at the brakes on that car before you find the encore isn't as harmless as the main performance was.
    For a car to do that, they had to lock up one or both rears which will spin a car at the drop of a hat and regardless of circumstances, what happens next time if a panic stop is needed on a wet road & in traffic? eek! eek!
    It's not something you ever seem to have to worry about on Citroens mainly due to the fact that Cit rear brakes rarely ever work due to siezing from lack of use, but that rear lock up problem could lead to an extremely dangerous situation sooner rather than later. mallet

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    Oh yes, that was the first thing Jason said afterwards. He reckons one of the brakes isn't engaging, so under hard braking you can feel it pull off course.

    Those things have a limited slip dif too so obviously something isn't quite right.
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    Justin,

    Sounds like a good idea to me - have the drive on the Saturday then go to the FCD on Sunday? I'd drive down on Friday I guess - it's an easy drive for me, only 9-10 hrs or so. It's amazing, once I'm on the Waringah Freeway (the one that goes to the Harbour Bridge/Harbour Tunnel) I only have one set of lights between there and Melbourne I've been told - in Albury I think?

    Nothing like a very French car weekend

    I know it's a long way away but hey I needed a bit of notice, this is heaps!

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    a similar thing happened to me on chapel street where it intersects with high street...anyway it was raining and i was doing sub 60...saw the red lights to late ...braked and the car just spun around at the intersection...i ( a little bit embarassed) just drove of in the opposite direction hoping that the passers by would see it as A COOL manouvre (which it wasn t) i was lucky ...there was no incoming traffic....

    i think my tire got pulled enough by the tram tracks to throw the car into orbit....

    and NO i wasnt crusing CHAPEL...i was driving a volvo 240dl and nobody uses them as a cruise
    car....

    ps u guys should count yourself lucky...great pics
    ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL

    cheers....

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    I have to say I feel a bit sorry for jason. Scary thing to happen. However, he continued to leed the 3 car convoy all the way to Mt. Baw Baw, ensuring that Simon (Celica) and myself (Cressida) could have as much fun as we liked with Jason as our dummy car

    Thanks Jason
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    Alan S:
    Don't want to point out the bleedin' obvious, but I'd suggest somebody has a good close look at the brakes on that car before you find the encore isn't as harmless as the main performance was.
    For a car to do that, they had to lock up one or both rears which will spin a car at the drop of a hat and regardless of circumstances, what happens next time if a panic stop is needed on a wet road & in traffic? eek! eek!
    It's not something you ever seem to have to worry about on Citroens mainly due to the fact that Cit rear brakes rarely ever work due to siezing from lack of use, but that rear lock up problem could lead to an extremely dangerous situation sooner rather than later. mallet

    Alan S
    FYI, the car is booked in for a brake check up during the week, and if you want to know what my brakes feel like at the moment, read the thread started by "Silverexec" called "brake booster?"
    It is very worrying, because it happened without any provocation, and there are times when the brake pedal feels life it's hitting it's stop. Needless to say, i'm not driving it much, and have to put up with my dad's Volvo for the time being But at least it has Aircon dance
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