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    Would appreciate any info on a very cheap 306 ASAP - heading to look at it today

    I'm heading out to check a 306 S16 on lower dandenong road at All States Car Sales. Its 8990, no reg, 136,000kms. I realise this car is very cheap, and its probably a long shot, but does anyone know anything about it? 8990 is cheap for an XT or XR at this price. I'm thinking that it could almost be too cheap (its at a dealer). Worth a look I suppose, I might get some photos up this afternoon.

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    Seen this?

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    Reading between the lines, I'd think $5K - $6K may buy it.
    Possibly the poster is the vendor so could be worth asking a question.

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    Nick,

    if its a S16 it was probably driven hard'ish.

    check for normal engine wear, CV joints, gear linkages, clutch etc that you would check on most cars.
    On top of that that check the rear quarter panels (near the bottom of the rear side windows) for flex damage. Same goes for the roof gutters near the top of the same windows and along the hatch.
    N3 306's had a reputation of flexing at the rear and there were cases of the resultant damage to the welds and panels just from "enthusiastic" driving.
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    Mechanically it seemed pretty reasonable. Started first turn, perfect idle, had the occaisonal splutter as it moved up the rev range, which seemed to clear up after a bit of driving - it hadn't been started in a while, they've had it for a few months. Interior was mint. The car was a theft recovery, but nothing seemed to be too wrong with it. Mechanically it went pretty well, no modifications aside from a K&N pod filter.

    <img src="http://www.carsales.com.au/photos/1404700.jpg" alt=" - " />
    Here are the external issues.

    1) Has three peugeot 15" 7 spoke (i think), and one peugeot 15" 5 spoke (the standard S16 rim).
    2) Decent (foot long) key scratch on the side, nothing too major, its still white. A few little body scratches, no dents. Really needs a cleanup.
    3) Window tint is stuffed, poor job in the first place I'd say.

    Has books up to 90,000kms.

    No rego either.

    How hard would it be to find another one of those rims in the pic? If it was possible to pick it up for $8-$8.5k, then it'd be viable, but I'm thinking the whole thing will end up owing me $10k+ on the road, which is more than I really want to spend.

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    the 3 wheels would have me thinking that one of the corners of the car took a hit. Hopefully just the suspension. 4 wheel alignment at any specialist (I dont mean Jaxx or bob Jane etc) should clear that up.
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    did you get the car?

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    After a bit of thought, I'm just a little skeptical about the car. I made the same assumption that it has taken a hit, and whilst it is very cheap, I feel that by the time I've got the car to the level I'd like, I'm going to be a good 11 grand out of pocket, which is a bit more than I'd really like to spend. Ideally, I'd like to have a car rego'd on the road for around $8-9k. And, its not a 205.

    Nick

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    sounds reasonable to me nick. Have you looked at any citroens?

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    I'd happily go a citroen, if I could find something that suited my needs. 16V BX's are pretty nice, but don't quite rock my boat in the same way a 205 does. However a nice DS would be good. Probably not the most practical daily driver in Melbourne though...

    Another car I wouldn't mind looking at is a 1995 or so Laguna. There's one in Balwyn (Vic) for $9k, with 109,000kms on it. Does anyone own one/know anything much about them?

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    nchandler:
    I'm heading out to check a 306 S16 on lower dandenong road at All States Car Sales. Its 8990, no reg, 136,000kms.,
    Nick
    Nick, as a S16 owner im glad you didn't buy it. S16's are not easy or cheap to repair, and are often after crashes a mix of XR's, GTi-6's and 405's. REAL specific S16 parts have almost banished... besides i think in the 306's the N5 XSi is the best allround buy. But in your price range a 205 will rock - chris
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    sounds like someone here wants to remain a tad more exclusive S16 owner wink

    .... I would have to agree that the hard driven S16 would be a cash cow if you arent lucky enough. BUT.... if it is indeed in good mechanical condition it would be a bargain. Nice starting platform to modify and create a track car. A bit of mid 90's motoring cult car a step above a 205 for comfort, and similar handling to a 306GTi6.
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    In any case, you can't join the 'motoring elite' of us S16 drivers until you have truly proved to us that you believe 6 gears (GTI6) are one too many and that you have a firm hatred of massive lift-off oversteer and 80's styling(205GTI). moon roll_lau moon

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    Six gears is a little too much effort for a lazy bugger such as myself. But I do prefer the styling of the 205, and the lift off oversteer provided some interesting moments with the caryard bloke in the car with me... tongue
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    tekkie:
    sounds like someone here wants to remain a tad more exclusive S16 owner wink ... Nice starting platform to modify and create a track car. A bit of mid 90's motoring cult car a step above a 205 for comfort, and similar handling to a 306GTi6.
    ...prepare note: said in angry japanese samurai style."My S16's will remain exclusive!!!!! you will manifest all the truths that is my car!!!!!"
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    Looks like its going to be too difficult to change cars without going without a car for a bit - the folks just upgraded all their cars (no frenchies unfortunately), so its very unlikely I'll be able to borrow the cash, get the new car, then sell my car. Looks like I'll hang on to the volvo till my end of year holidays, then sell it, because back at home i've got the pleasure of a 2002 falcon ute to drive roll_lau ... So I won't be car-less. That way I can sell mine, and I've got a few months to find the right 205.

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