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    Old Relics.

    I was talking to a customer today, and he was really excited. He had just bought a mint condition 404 sedan. It had a genuine 60,000 miles and still had the original paint, nil rust anywhere, owned by a grandpa. I call that a Relic, not a rusty paddock basher, but the total opposite, something that's like winning the lotto when you find this rare, mint condition gem.
    Anyone else ever come across these Relics, French cars, holdens, anything??

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    Yes our next door neighbours got (bought?) their eldest son a nice first car a, Datsun 1600. It was from a gentelman in their church group, he said it was an old datsun that he didn't use so he just gave it to em for $1 to make the rego transfer legal etc. I don't think the owner or his pearents know the value of an original 1600.
    They came home and told him that the car didn't start and that he had to go and pick it up if he could get it going.
    Well the car just didn't have any fuel and the battery had run flat.. so i drove him to the station and he ripped the battery from his sister Excel, it took a while but we got her going with his dads help. The old man was more than nice enough to just hand it over, as long as he looked after it, it had 80K something miles and was almost perfect except for near gone pads and some little rust on the battery tray and the rear boot. Nice.. hes already going to spoil it and do the CA-18 thing and a 5speed. go figure, hes about to spend $5000, plus on a $1 car...
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    ps this was about 8 months ago, just before the years end. nice 18th gift aye.

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    well my godfather still drives hes 1962 holden that he got went it was 2yrs old , with every thing inside original except the engine which is from 1964 holden, its the ones that don`t have seat belts in them, it looks so good always garage and he will not sell it,he loves it that much
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    One of my friends relatives had a farm, like a hobby farm with a really old House and Barn on it.
    They were demolishing the barn when they removed
    a false wall which had a brick wall behind it. They removed the brick wall and their was a 1920's (Not sure of the date, but an absolute relic) Rolls royce silver shadow/Ghost ??
    Apparantly it was hidden before the owner went to war and they didn't return i guess.
    According to my friend it was in absolute mint condition.
    WOW imagine that!!
    I'd love to find a 203 convertible with 50,000k on it ...
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    Yes my dad and I had the opportunity to buy for a much cheaper price then we should have and original 1973 Porsche 911 RSC. It is the Ultimate porsche, just ask any enthusiast.

    It is white wite the red lettering and the trade mark ducktail. It is one of only 100 right hand drives ever built by the factory (UK spec) and it is one of only 5 in Australia. Almost any other '73RS that you see is a replica, usually a modded SC or E or something aorund the saem eara.

    We take good car of it, but at the same time, use it for what it was purpose built for... RACING wink We have done numorous rallies in it, like Targa, east coast classic, dutton and adelaide classic.

    here's a pic of it on a closed road section a year ago somehwere west of bathursst wink
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    anyway, thats just my litttle rant about a unique car mallet hehehehe
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    I love your 911!

    There is a guy up the road from me who is a huge Porsche enthusiast. His back yard is filled with 356 and early 911s, some are now in completely restored conditions, others are work in progress. I just love having a peek over his fence to take a look whenever I walk past.
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    You need a few to keep one on the road at all times...

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    The story of my son's 10 is interesting. The car was owned by an old lady from new (she probably wasn't old when she bought it). When she died she gave it to her neighbour who had been doing the regular maintenance on it. He put it in his garage for 10 years and then advertised it in the Melbourne Trading Post "Renault 10 1964 good condition $600". I rang the chap and asked about the year he repled that yes it was a 10 and the year was definitely 1964. Of course my heart raced at the prospect of an 8 so I asked if I could come and see it. At the same time I asked what did he mean by "good condition", he replied "Well the interior is good as only the driver's seat has ever been sat in, the motor's good as it has only done 82,000 miles and my brother respayed it about 8 years ago so the paint is good", don't you just love an understated discription? Sure eneough upon arrival the car is in the garage where it has sat for 8 years under a military parachute covered in about 4mm of dust. A quick peek under the cover reveals all is as described (except that it is a 69 model). What a find, my son was fearing a Volvo was going to be his first car. The only "problems" with the car have been as a result of not moving for all that time, but I have worked through them (I hope). I like hearing about "relics" being found and returned to the use they were "created" for, if that's practicle. Cars, if at all possible, should not live in museums. Neither in "collections" by fanatics who never "get 'round" to puting anything back on the road, IMHO.

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    I love the porsche aswell ... and would love to own something similar one day.

    Speaking of relics .... i have an unrestored 1957 356A rotting away in my garage for the past 5 years.

    I bought it working but blew a rod through the crankcase two weeks after i bought it (and no i wasn't driving it hard either). The engine is out but that's about it. It has full owner history since new.

    No time, and too afraid of the cost to restore. Its a shame because the car deserves to be on the road again.
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    Just think about all those suspension rubbers going hard... ready to break up as soon as you start driving them!

    Stick a VW engine in it, Ashley, get it going!

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    Stick a VW engine in it, Ashley, get it going!
    yep .... i've owned VW's before, unfortunately i can't bear thought of putting a vw engine in a 356. to the enthusiast it like chalk and cheese, the engines perform (and sound) completely different.

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    stick a 911 engine in it then wink
    hehehehe

    Dad and I owned a '56 356A. It had some problems, like always had to be clutch start, but apart from that ran well, was in it's original condition too so it laked the HP wink but still a fun little car, it looked immaculate too and sounded umm "historic". hehehe we only owned it for a year though.
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    Ray Bell:

    Stick a VW engine in it, Ashley, get it going!
    Ray, that would be a bad move. To quote an old 504 advertising slogan. "You have to drive one to understand."

    Ashleyt, it would be nice to see your 356 resurrected again though, this forum needs some more rear engined swing axle drift action :-)
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    Cant_get_enough_of_peugeots:
    Anyone else ever come across these Relics, French cars, holdens, anything??
    A few weeks ago when I was looking for PRV V6s I called a Quokka ad for a Volvo 164, not knowing what they are, and thinking that "6" in the name meant it was a six cylinder. Well, it was, but when I got there I disovered that a 164 is a Volvo-motored straight-6. The guy who owned it was selling it for $200. A student, he bought it a few months before from an old couple who'd owned it from new. It was as close to immaculate as I've ever seen a "daily driver" original car, and ran like a clock. Even the velour seats were unmarked.

    The reason he was selling it cheap was that it had been broken into and they had stolen the radio (!) and left some wires hanging out of the dash. A broken side window was the only other damage. The thing had factory air-con, power steering, automatic, and fuel injection, all from 1974. Absolutely amazing. Anyway, he had let it run out of license, had no money, and couldn't fix it himself (replace a window!), so he just wanted to get rid of it. If I was a Volvo sort of bloke I'd have thought all my birthdays had arrived at once. But I'm not.

    I did call the Volvo car club contact and let the bloke know about the car, so I hope an enthusiast grabbed it. Don't like to think of such a car at Simmsmetal...

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    .....I did call the Volvo car club contact and let the bloke know about the car, so I hope an enthusiast grabbed it. Don't like to think of such a car at Simmsmetal.....
    They are nice, but something of an orphan in this world.

    They don't have the peppy performance of the four, but I reckon there's little wrong with them anyway. The windows would be common to the 144... no end of spares for them.

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    My father had a 164 when I was a kid. It was fantastic.
    I don't know why you would say it doesn't have the pep of the 144, because the six is one and a half 144 engines, and ours used to really ZOOM. If I saw a 164 for 200 bucks I would grab it with both hands. They beat a 604 in every respect except fot the lovely IRS handling.

    A few years ago, an old bloke down the Huon Valley decided to get a new car. His old car was a one owner EJ Holden, with the venetian blind in the back window and the spats on the rear wheels. It was like new. I think he got around $4000 for it.
    When Dad was a young bloke, a mate of his saw an ad in the paper for a Rolls Royce for ten pounds. Nobody even rang up because they thought it was a joke, but this young bloke did, and his father gave him a lift to look at it. Sure enough it was a pre war 20/25, and the seller was the widow of the owner and didn't want it in the garage because it upset her. The young man's father bought it on the spot and gave his son the brand new Holden instead.
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