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    Is 307 Estate in oz yet??

    Does anybody know if these are here yet as havent seen much writeups about them, may have slipped into the country without my knowledge..anybody?

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    jr20516v:
    Does anybody know if these are here yet as havent seen much writeups about them, may have slipped into the country without my knowledge..anybody? cheers jr
    At this stage I believe there is no plan to bring in the 307SW or 206SW - the market is too small to ensure all the ADR's are adhered too. And it'll be a shame too, as I've seen some great pictures of the 307SW with it's dual glass roof option. Maybe if the Aussie dollar continues to strengthen significantly there could be a change of heart.

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    I thought the 206 GTi SW was coming here. I hope the 307 SW does too, it is a very attractive wagon and has won quite a few awards. Apparently it has better ride quality than the hatch.
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    I posted a bit about the model release schedule in the Peugeot forum a week or so back:

    he Herald Sun today (30/5/03) has a brief article on peugeot diesels. Apparently they aren't going to sell models with their new direct injection diesel engines here until fuel quality improves. Also talks about proposed future model launches [in Australia - edit]:

    307CC in October, 206 GTI in November, 307 wagon in November or December, 206 wagon and 407 in first half of 2004.

    <a href="http://newsmotoring.news.com.au/heraldsun/story_page/0,8269,6513610%255E21825,00.html" target="_blank">http://newsmotoring.news.com.au/heraldsun/story_page/0,8269,6513610%255E21825,00.html</a>

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    Rod Hagen:
    I posted a bit about the model release schedule in the Peugeot forum a week or so back:
    Interesting news Rod, must have had a change of heart cause apparently at the Aussie dealers annual conference in Noumea at the end of March. The 206SW was not coming at all as PSA France didn't think enough would sell to make it worth while and the 307SW was having problems with ADRs.

    Personally I'd like to see both of them here ...

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    Noumea eh! Yes, that would be good for anyone's heart! Always wondered where my spare parts money ended up !

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    jr20516v:
    Does anybody know if these are here yet as havent seen much writeups about them, may have slipped into the country without my knowledge..anybody?

    cheers jr
    I've seen them in Jakarta! Look nice and very capacious. We think we're ahead of Indonesia????

    They have Peugeot 806s too.

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    Whilst the 206 GTi SW looks nice, I am not really a fan of the SW, and I doubt it has much of a market here. Most fpeople who would usually buy a SW would most likely be a family..maybe..and go for the larger V6 family SW's like Fords, Holdens, Volvos, BMW's or Merc's. I just don't think the smaller 206 Sw would sell well at all.

    or maybe I am just a fan of the small hatch
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    According to Peugeot's website, the plan is to launch the 307 SW in 2003. To be honest, everything I read, apart from a single post said that it was coming.

    I think the 307 SW has more of a chance than the 206 SW, I personally don't think there is any real need in Australia for a 206 SW type product. It's too small to make an estate useful if you ask me personally. Sure it doesn't have any direct competitors, but I don't think there's much of a point to it. Let's look at price, assume it's $1000-2000 more than a normal 206 - for an auto 1.6 XT estate, you'd be looking at almost 30k on the road. Spending more on a GTi I can understand.

    307 SW I could understand (or just the plain 307 Estate), it's a competitor to cars like the Scenic, Zafira and Corolla Wagon (probably more so for the former two). Perhaps you could even describe it as a poor man's V40 or A4 Estate, after all they are the same size of car, even though the 406 may be closer in price. There's a logical fit there, it's for the people for whom a traditional estate is somewhat too large.

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    Pug307:
    According to Peugeot's website, the plan is to launch the 307 SW in 2003.
    I hope it does .. as it'll be added to my list of options to try before I buy .. I think it'll be more practical then the 307XSE.

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    I'll give you the full rundown on the 307 SW, when I get back from thrashing the crap out of one in Europe next month.

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    They'll be here in October

    Peugeot plans to supply about 160 cars for officials in the World Cup, which starts early October, including 607s and 307 variants (the SW -- to be called ST, or Sports Touring, here -- and XS, XSE and XSi).
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    DeKa:
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    More info here ... <a href="http://yahoo.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/NT01FED64A" target="_blank">http://yahoo.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/NT01FED64A</a> for those interested.

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    I doubt the 206 SW will do that well either, just going on the failure of the Lancer Wagon to sell is significant numbers. But it is a Euro, so you never know, Peugeot is going great guns at the moment.
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    206 SW is obviously not going to sell to the tradeys, more so to Yuppieville, but then again wagons don't seem to be the in thing these days, they'd probably rather roll around in their baby SUVs, etc.

    So the 206 estate has an estimated $2,000 premium over the standard hatch.

    Let's calculate what that'd be for an auto wagon.

    $26,990
    + $520 metallic
    + $1400 dealer delivery
    + $725 stamp duty
    + $520 registration
    = $30,155

    $30k is a bit for a car that has less space in the boot than the base 307 seats up or down. Personally, I can't justify spending $30k on what is a Barina sized car. It's not a GTi or RenaultSport variant either which can justify the expense.

    I don't know whether it'd sell just because Peugeot is selling well. If you look at the main growth in sales, the 307 is the main car behind the volumes. Why is the 307 selling so well? Sure Peugeot aficionados lament the passing of the 306's dynamics, but it's just such a good value car.

    It's rather strange how they're calling the 206 & 307 estate variants ST - ST is normally Peugeot's nomenclature for its sedan versions, eg. the 306 & 406 ST.

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    i really can't see small wagons selling
    it has been tried in the past without much success
    ok the little mazda wagons and things sold but they are jap cars
    look at the 405 wagon
    not really that small but still a smallish wagon and they never took off in this country
    505 wagons sold well even considering the price of them
    even the 504 wagon sold better than the 405 wagon
    the average person i feel thinks that a wagon should be a certain size like around the size of a 505 wagon or a falcon wagon to consider it worthwhile to buy one
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    Pug307:
    206 SW is obviously not going to sell to the tradeys, more so to Yuppieville, but then again wagons don't seem to be the in thing these days, they'd probably rather roll around in their baby SUVs, etc.
    Saw the dealer principle here this arvo, they went and checked out the 206SW and all Australian reps agreed it was just too small to be practical in Oz (when we are used to Camry, Falcon, Crummiedoor etc). The 307SW(ST) is coming for sure (taking orders if you want) ... but the large sunroof version is not on the list And yes talking $1000-$2000 premium over similar 307 models. It was due at the Oct Syd Motor show .. and sales starting 1 month after that, but now it looks like a Sept release, of course I'll believe it when I see it !

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    Cal:
    I'll give you the full rundown on the 307 SW, when I get back from thrashing the crap out of one in Europe next month.Cal. head_ban
    Here's hoping you get something bigger then the 1.4ltr variety.

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    That's right, we're only getting the non SW version, we're getting the 307 Estate.

    Don't know whether I'd want to have an SW either with our sun. Sure it's no problem in fogland England, even with athermic glass, that's going to be tough in summer with the aircon.

    Secondly, I've seen a few 307s with cracked windshields, I'd hate to see the results with much of the roof in glass too. A bit gimmicky to me.

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    I'll give you the full rundown on the 307 SW, when I get back from thrashing the crap out of one in Europe next month.Cal. head_ban
    Here's hoping you get something bigger then the 1.4ltr variety.

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    66kW or 80kW?

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    Pug307:
    66kW or 80kW?
    Peugeot Sodexa / Peugeot Leasing through Driveaway Holidays in Australia supply the 110bhp/80kw version. They did this time last year anyway!

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    Pug307:
    Don't know whether I'd want to have an SW either with our sun. Sure it's no problem in fogland England, even with athermic glass, that's going to be tough in summer with the aircon.
    If it can't be covered I wouldn't be interested. WA sun is oppressive !

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