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    Lada Lovers Rejoice...Pugnuts and Hydraulic heads weep

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    It just had to happen sometime. mallet

    <small>[ 12 April 2003, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: BogMaster ]</small>
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    Oh dear....?...... the racing Lada has a Ferrari V8!!!!!!! whats next a 4 stroke Trabant!
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    Oh dear....?...... the racing Lada has a Ferrari V8!!!!!!! whats next a 4 stroke Trabant!
    cheers
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    Actually there are 4-stroke Trabants :p

    In the late 80s, the Trabant factory started making a "Trabant 1.1" which used engines from a VW Polo.
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    rek:
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    Oh dear....?...... the racing Lada has a Ferrari V8!!!!!!! whats next a 4 stroke Trabant!
    cheers
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    Actually there are 4-stroke Trabants :p

    In the late 80s, the Trabant factory started making a "Trabant 1.1" which used engines from a VW Polo.
    Nah it's the brand new off the Italian showroom floor Lada Niva with the Pug Cit 1.9 turbo diesel that's the worry....like I said, it had to happen sometime.

    dance

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    I can't find info on whether the pug cit motor is being fitted in the Ukraine on the production line or whether Mario and his mates are doing the business when the Nivas get to Italy.

    Either way it has to be a big improvement on the chain driven OHC tractor engine fitted as original equipment.

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    What sort of a cocktail have we got here?
    Spagetti laced with vodka and a couple of spears of asparagus on top to ad flavour. mallet mallet dance

    Sounds like a potent mix... cry roll_lau

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    My goodness that Lada niva is coming along. Looks ok to me.
    I remember my family had one for years and it was great when I was a kid.. 2_cents

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    The Lada Niva was fitted with a Pug/Cit oilburner from the late '80s for some markets.
    I am not sure which markets had them ( maybe somebody out there knows?), but I reckon they would be a very good off road vehicle.
    The Niva might be a bit rough on the road, but they are fantastic in the bush ( where 4x4s are meant to go anyway).
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    <span><span class=ResizableText0>
    whats next a 4 stroke Trabant! cheers <span class=ResizableText0>Xq[/qb]
    Actually</span> there are 4-stroke Trabants :p In the late 80s, the Trabant factory started making a "Trabant</span> 1.1" which used engines from a VW <span class=ResizableText0>Polo.[/QB][/QUOTE]</span> </span>
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    I have been doing a bit of research on this one.
    Diesel Nivas were sold mainly on the Continental market, where diesels are popular. Surprisingly they do not seen to have been sold in England, where people hate diesels but buy them anyway, because the petrol is so expensive.
    An English company offered conversion kits to fit the Pug diesel into petrol Nivas, but the owner died, and the company went out of business.
    The diesel Niva would have been painfully slow an the road, as they are very heavy for their size, and even the petrol ones which have more power than the diesel are known as slowpokes snail . They would be economical though, and the diesel tourque caracteristics would be excellent off road.
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    Pugnut403:
    I have been doing a bit of research on this one.
    Diesel Nivas were sold mainly on the Continental market, where diesels are popular. Surprisingly they do not seen to have been sold in England, where people hate diesels but buy them anyway, because the petrol is so expensive.
    An English company offered conversion kits to fit the Pug diesel into petrol Nivas, but the owner died, and the company went out of business.
    The diesel Niva would have been painfully slow an the road, as they are very heavy for their size, and even the petrol ones which have more power than the diesel are known as slowpokes snail . They would be economical though, and the diesel tourque caracteristics would be excellent off road.
    Would the 1.9 turbo diesel be basically the same pug based engine shoved under the bonnet of the TATA 4wd's?

    If so they must be really really slow as they're a lot larger than a LADA Niva.

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    WOW!, i learn something silly everyday...
    Here's another useless fact. I found this out just today, actually.

    The bottom half of a hamburger bun is called the 'heel', and the top half (with sesame seeds etc.) is the 'crown'.
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    You haven't started work in McDonalds or Hungry Jacks have you

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    ok..... il add another uselless fact..
    The dust your Air/Con filter collects is mostly your own dead skin. Just a thought.
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    I have done a bit more research , and it seem that the motor was from the 309 and the 205.
    I am waiting on an email from someone over there who is going to look up some of the details in his Lada books, and I will post the info when i receive it.
    Some years ago an Indian company called Mahindra was selling their copy of a 1950s Jeep in Australia. These had, to the best of my knowledge, a 504 diesel engine. They are still being made today, along with a 7 seat station wagon, and an armoured version for military and police use.
    It is likely that the TATA would have this engine, rather than the 205.
    The last diesel Nivas sold in Belgium were in 2001, and they are still making them in South America.
    My useless fact; Only 3 spanners are needed to dismantle a Trabant spanner spanner spanner , and the engine can be removed in less than half an hour.
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    The TATA's currently use a 1.9 turbo diesel of pug design but manufactured in India. It looks like the real thing and the resale value of the bloody things seems to be going up as the local dealer network expands....The set up on the Telcoline utes and dual cabs is pretty basic, but they seem solid enough, dunno about the recirculating ball steering though. They also flog a Land Rover Discovery look alike that is apparently really heavy but better set up..same motor.

    <img src="http://www.mg-sportcars.co.uk/XPOWER/images/Safari_small.jpg" alt=" - " />

    That Lada link from Italy looks fairly current and was advertising the pug cit 1.9 diesel for 700 euros more than the petrol model.

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    Pugnut403:

    Some years ago an Indian company called Mahindra was selling their copy of a 1950s Jeep in Australia. These had, to the best of my knowledge, a 504 diesel engine. They are still being made today, along with a 7 seat station wagon, and an armoured version for military and police use.
    It is likely that the TATA would have this engine, rather than the 205.
    I've had a look under the bonnet of a Tata and it had a OHC diesel engine like the 405, not a pushrod diesel like the Mahindra and 504.

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    I stand corrected on the TATA mallet .
    The Niva diesel had the XUD9 as fitted to the 309.
    They were not very popular in Sweden, where I got the info from, because the road tax on diesels is very high over there. This could be fixed by fitting a divider behind the front seats, and removing the rears, thereby allowing registration as a light truck. The leftover unsold stock was disposed of in this manner.
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