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    I need to buy a pug 405 bonnet, found a place that sells aftermarket ones for about the same as a wrecker charges.
    As they're in a different state i cant go check it out but was just wondering if anybody else had bought non genuine panels before and how they were?

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    andreas.i have bought gaurds for 306 and 505,non orig,they can be a real pain.the bolt holes dont line up or the curves dont match,sometimes the length can be different so you end up with the point by the head light to long.have not used bonnets yet.i am checking for you,get back soon.stuart.

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    Where are they and do you want them checked out?

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    thanks for your replies.
    Parramatta Prestige in Sydney sell the bonnets for $300.
    if anyone does happen to go their looking for other parts (they're a wrecker) feel free to check the bonnets out for me.

    i'm wary of some aftermarket parts, some are fine and some are more trouble than they're worth.

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    Do they say where they're made?

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    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Andreas:
    thanks for your replies.
    Parramatta Prestige in Sydney sell the bonnets for $300.
    if anyone does happen to go their looking for other parts (they're a wrecker) feel free to check the bonnets out for me.

    i'm wary of some aftermarket parts, some are fine and some are more trouble than they're worth.

    Andreas
    Andreas, I'd be happy to take a look for you. I will perhaps be in that area tomorrow. I have a digital cam, but close inspection is probably just as good also.


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    didnt ask where they're from.
    gibgib, dont go out of your way but if you go past it'd be appreciated, pics arent necessary.
    but i'm not sure what you can tell by just looking, i think fitting it will be the only way to tell.

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    I'd just look for dings or bog.

    Should be square you'd think.
    Why wouldn't it be?
    Easier if it's still attached.

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    they dont have any used ones, i already asked.
    that's when they offered me the new aftermarket ones so i assume they're packed in boxes.
    not sure if it's worthwhile you going down in that case.

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    Andreas,
    I have always been advised to stay away from non gen parts by everyone.
    But never run into any probs
    I purchased a lot of mitsi no gen panels before with no probs.
    Dont know about peugeot panels though.
    I have been calling around for auto bonnets in melb as i did not want to strip mine to bare metal (To much work)
    After hearing the prices The bonnet is in bare metal now.
    I have been deciding on colors and paints with a freind.


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    i had my bonnet taken back to bare metal..i didnt do it, they were cursing me though

    and to think in the UK i could pick up a used one for $50.
    i'm going to be cutting vents into the bonnet and want to keep my original one as is.
    i'll call a few more wreckers, maybe even get a dealers quote and then i'll probably end up getting the aftermarket one.

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    Andreas, I've heard the same as Murat. Most non-genuine panels require at least some fettling to make them fit. The worst are those which have holes etc which have to match the existing fittings (as opposed to stuff like door skins etc which you expect to have to do some work on). Mind you, on the E-Type Jag. (Resto currently ongoing) the factory bonnets are a few inches too long as supplied and you cut them to size at the bulkhead end !

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    hi andreas,no good on the bonnets,all gone sorry,plenty of doors though if you ever need any.

    [This message has been edited by charles (edited 02 October 2001).]

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    andreas, A lot depends on brand names, if a company puts there name on there product it"s usually a good sign there stand behind it,if you can"t find out the name of the company who made the bonnets be careful, I once bought some real cheap R12 bonnets at a fraction of what they cost here only to find the quality so poor I couldn't use them (I still have some), The old saying was, take a parts company, Valeo for example, they are original suppliers to Peugeot, now if you bought a part from Peugeot and that part was faulty it was Peugeots warranty and Peugeots name, Valeo didn't care, they still sold just as many parts, now if you bought it off Valeo in a Valeo box, it was Valeo's problem and Valeo"s warranty so sometime non gen is better and cheaper, on the other hand Peugeot would tell you that all the parts Valeo sell in Veleo boxes are parts that Peugeot rejected and are therefore not up to Peugeot standard and the manufacturer is selling them cheap, so now I've just confused you more, from my experience i'd say no to non gen panels, I think non gen is usually fine.
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    Now I know that thought was just a hypothetical, David... but I have a Valeo rotor button here... and I'm sure Peugeot don't test all the rotor buttons they receive from Valeo and return the duds...

    They would return the duds all right, those on which someone claims warranty included... Valeo would still be carrying the warranty, the difference in price is the handling costs of the bits going via Peugeot. And the cost of handling the warranty as it headed back to Valeo...

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    Ray, I once had a rotor button that was broken in half and the broken half was not in the sealed packet meaning it must have been packaged broken, which brings me to another saying that European exporters seem to say, "just send all the crap to Australia, there to far away to complain".

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    So the importers carry the warranty here?

    This sort of thing happens, too... importers get stuck with the rejects, can't turn down their distributors or customers, have to replace the items, don't get compensated by the Euro suppliers.

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    andreas

    did you ever get that italian bonnet fram parra prestige ??
    if so what was it like ?
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    I've used virtually always non gen stuff, from Valeo, Sasic and whatever else Ken at Carrevelle gives me. Always been absolutly fine, and I know if it ever isnt, Ken will swap it for me (it makes a difference who you get stuff from too!).
    Bought an indicator for the R21 in a Valeo box, but it was made by same company as the factory one.
    Having said that, there are often differences in quality - eg clutchs. A Sasic one is about $100 cheaper than the Valeo one and is just fine, but the Valeo one has a nicer crisper feel to it (ie you get what you pay for to some extent, but one can be pretty sure that genuine will tend to be overpriced or at least less value)
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    Wow! Does this hold the record as the oldest thread ever brought back to life!

    Intreresting theme though. I wasn't even aware that there were third party panels available for Peugeots in Australia!

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    pugrambo:
    andreas

    did you ever get that italian bonnet fram parra prestige ??
    if so what was it like ?
    pugrambo,
    If you want me to go have a look at one given me a yell. It's obviously very close to my work. Give me a call gone or gone if you need me to

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    Last edited by DeKa; 10th July 2004 at 09:20 PM.

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    derek

    thanks for that
    i gave them a ring today and they have new bonnets for $350 from italy and new radiator supports for $250 from italy
    i know gen bonnets are around the $1000 mark and i think new radiator supports gen are around $300
    i'll let you know
    thanks again for the offer
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    Here's one to keep the pot boiling.
    Got a set of genuine Citroen head bolts for Brad's 16V and found as we were about to reassemble that they had stress fractures in the heads that could have been more than a bit embarrassing. cry cry Contacted the overseas supplier who proceeded to replace them (under warranty) with non genuine ones that were perfect.
    So much for paying top dollar for genuine parts. mallet mallet mallet

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    Default Acryllic non genuine parts

    Hi Guys,

    I can provide weathershields, headlight guards, bonnet guards and rear dust deflectors for approx 2600 different vehicles.

    Many of the hard to find parts.

    www.bodyshield.com.au

    or email me to find out if we can help you locate a part
    Nathan@bodyshield.com.au

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by nato
    Hi Guys,

    I can provide weathershields, headlight guards, bonnet guards and rear dust deflectors for approx 2600 different vehicles.

    Many of the hard to find parts.

    www.bodyshield.com.au

    or email me to find out if we can help you locate a part
    Nathan@bodyshield.com.au

    Thanks

    ok here's one for you

    slim line weather shield for both front doors for a 604 peugeot
    3 x '78 604 SL

    1 x 2018 3008

    1 x 2000 Citroen XM,

    1 x '98 306 GTi6 sadly sold

    1 x secret project

    1 x '98 406 STDT troop carrier and i don't care if it stinks, i don't sniff it's arse Death by wank tank

    1 x '99 406SV 5spd wagon, time to burn more fuel

    1 x 1994 605 SV3.0

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