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    drove a GTiR tonight...

    my mate just got a gtir couple of days ago and i took it for a spin tonight...geez...i was impressed by the power of this thing..car is totally stock except for larger exhaust and mags...its almost scary the type of speed this thing builds up...for $18 000 there wouldn t be to many stock cars that could outperform it in that price range....one thing i did notice was that the car felt NUMB when it came to chassis feel and dynamics...i could not help but think how great it would be to see this motor/driveline in something like the 306 orr if it could fit MY 205 gti...would make one hell of a psychotic vehicle...or better still a turboed mi16 4wd in a 205...mmmmmm...if u ever get a chance for a drive in 1 i d recommend it wether u like rice or not...certinly felt better than the gtst s i ve driven..

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    Yea the GTi-R is a pretty impressive piece of gear. They used to be a pretty rare site on the road now there fairly common, well here in Brisbane anyway.
    There cheap to bring over and a good alternative to a WRX.

    I was Bloody close to buying one late last year.

    The thing that goes in them is the Gearboxes, I know 3 people that each have one and they have all had broken boxes, they don't even drive them that hard. and getting parts for them is fkn expensive.

    They Look Tough though.
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    GtiR's are pretty nice and nimble... very quick, remember 175Kw and lighter than a WRX..
    Drive components are what let the old WRC cars down thats why Nissan pulled it out of competition.
    In japan they sell whole custom drivetrain to cope with 600Hp.... velly eszpenziv san'....
    In my car club there is two Homogolation(?) models which are lighter and quicker again....
    Id say that they really are a baby Godzilla.
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    Going a bit off topic here, every time i hear about Skylines, GTiR's, GSR's, WRX's etc and how popular and good these vehicles are reminds me of the marketing negligence of Renault Australia.

    If Renault's such as 5 turbo, 21 turbo, 19 16v, Clio Williams, Alpine's etc had've been brought over to Australia, Renault's story in Australia may have been a great deal different....all these cars would have surely competed with the sporting-turbo cars from Japan of the day.

    Think about how all these cars could be still hovering around in the aftermarket scenes such as VL Turbos, Cordia's, Mx5's, Mr2's, GSR's etc. Renault's brand awareness could have been boosted a great deal, RS Clio's could be selling like hot cakes these days.

    We were told at the motorshow that an order of Clio V6's had been cancelled. And thats what i told the many people that came up to me asking for the mid-mounted Clio's at the show. To soften their dissapointments, i would point out to each of them that they had a projected cost of $80,000 - $90,000. Nearly all the people intersted responded with "Really? I would've paid that anyway..." One bloke assured me he wouldve bought 2....

    There you go Renault Australia. 350z's are selling like hot cakes ($65,000 - $70,000 odd on road). The dealership i work for on weekends hasnt sold a RS Clio in weeks. They should re-badge the RS Clio's as Nissan's and watchem' sell
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    If you think about it, VDA haven't really put much effort into marketing the Clio Sport - I guess they must've thought good reviews would just take care of that.

    Peugeot tries a bit at least.

    Is a Clio V6 worth 3x the price of a normal one? Personally, I'd say no It's not much faster, and from what I read, actually isn't as well sorted a car on the road.

    Just remember one thing. A 350Z doesn't look or feel cheap. Is a Clio V6 $50,000 nicer inside, does it even look $3.95 nicer inside? A VW driving friend of mine was looking at the Clio Sport - he complained it didn't feel solid enough and felt cheap. I actually think it's not bad, but having seen the Clio V6's interior...

    If it were $80,000, I think it'd be absolutely different!

    Why did VDA cancel the order?

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    the great thing about jap cars wether they be imports or not is the HUGE amount of aftermarket components available...so it doesn t matter wether you drive a rex, a gsr or the 13b rotary u r guaranteed to have a large selection of performance components on tap and thats partly due to the japanese car culture...so much of the good stuff these guys want is easily available here...yes a lot of it is quite pricey but a lot of the guys driving these toys dont seem to have a problem with cash....that reminds me of the NOW popularised statement :" ohh it ll will easily eat a REX..."....the sad thing is looking at the stats the chances are the rex is not stock nor is the gsr and that plain looking gtst might just be running better than gtr running gear....so whatever the price of the clio u d still have to sit and scratch your head considering you can have a pretty decent r33 gtr for around $50 000...and it would be hard to question the CRED of such a vehicle....but then again money is not an issue with some people...

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    ps...its a shame the gtir doesn t deliver the same kind of chassis feel as my pug otherwise i wouldn t think twice about buying one...

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    As well as owning 2x french cars i also have a gti-r as my everyday plaything, these ppl that blow up gearboxes usually dont treat them right.
    Being in the gti-r club i know full well how most ppl treat their g/boxes..dropping the clutch at 7500rpm is the norm and then they complain how weak the g/boxes are. Alot of these cars arrive here with weakened boxes due to the flogging the japs give them.
    As far as the chassis goes any 4wd will be different from a pug, theyre completly different
    cars, simply fit a whiteline kit and it handles like no other car..yes even the pug! My only
    problem is choosing which one to drive on any given day, the R or the 205 16v..theyre both great cars but unfortunately you can only drive one at once. LOL
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    Hi,

    Don't wanna sound *too* out of touch, but what brand of car is a gti-r? If it's lighter than a WRX as Xq said, I'm guessing it's a small hatch?

    Thanks guys
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    mmmm Jap cars what can i say i love them.
    There are almost no other cars that come close to jap cars for bang for your buck. Forget your local imported Jap cars (WRX ect) the grey imports is where the fun is and the aftermarket industry is huge

    I know a few ppl with GTiR's and they are a bargain for the performance you are getting. However like others have said they are not that great handlers stock and very front end heavy.

    Anyways the only way the Gearboxes break is when ppl treat them rough. The guy i know he would be clutch dumping at 7000rpm ect and be very very rough. But if you treat them right they will be fine.

    Anyways in the past 2 years ive had the chance to drive and be passenger in alot of friends Jap cars, Mitsubishi Evolution 5, Evolution 2 RS, Heavily modded GSR Lancer, Several Skylines and alot of others i have forgotten about

    Anyways i also drive a Mitsubishi GTO and although its great to drive and has brutal straight line grunt its just not as much fun to drive as my pug. I drove the GTO for a week then jumped in the 306 and it just makes you feel like a rally driver

    All i need now is power(hopefully the GTi6 Engine conversion will help)

    Anyways if you guys are after a car that goes harder than a GTiR yet handles better than a 205GTi (yes its possible) look to Europe...not japan. After getting a ride in a Lancia Delta 16v I was stunned. This was my dream car and i always knew they handled great but i was amazed..this thing handled better than my dads 205gti yet had Power and is such a well balanced drivers car.
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    heres a pic for you.
    Nissan Pulsar GTiR
    171kw and they weight 1220kg

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    yep, thats the one...almost identical including the aftermarket wheels....those bonnet scoops look reaally wild FROM the inside of the car because they bulge out so much and they take some getting used to because beside the the few extra stock guages in the centre console the interior is bassically plain old pulsar...though the seats are better...in fact the seats might be partof the reason why the car feels so numb (they r very firm) whereas in the pug i believe the engineers made sure that even the seats did their share of transfering FEEL in rythm with the pedals and the steering wheel...u will not be able to get such READABLE sensations from the sunny...

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    A few years ago whe i was installing stereo gear in cars, often we would do Aftermarket turbo timers, boostcontrols, rev-fuel cut outs, etc.
    DC electrical, is all the same regardless of brand (although early alfas were a bit on the errrr side).
    So i often got to play with these imports, gtir's are more common now, but then anymore than 300Bhp at the wheels was a rough figure for snapping front shafts, the g/box it self was, like you guys have noted, as good as anyother.
    Then one day a car straight of the boat from japan, with a 6 speed sequential shift box and custom shafts!!,rolls in of a truck bed the owner wanted a tracker and immobiliser fitted.
    Apparently it had well over 450Hp at the engine so just over 325 at all 4 wheels. What a little beast.
    The syco owner pulls a OPTION2 magazine from the car and smack bang on the front cover the very same GTiR, that i just tore the carpet in (very small tear), was on a jap mag surrounded by Engrish and Jap'san words!!..
    How this bloke got it i don;t know, but the issue was over 4 months old.
    Bastard!! anyway, it was VERY quick, with high 11's on street tyres!!
    These were some of the crude figures we got out of the mag, as most of didn't read japanese very well.
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    ps, i wanted one (gtir) for circuit racing but, they don't fit under CAMS regulation for 2D classing, so im thinking about a 90 Vtec CRX or a MR-2 GT instead (both can be had very cheaply in NZ)....
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    Gotta love the VTEC engine in the CRX. I've driven the later CRX with the targa top. Awesome little car, perfect gearchange and clutch, direct steering and that little 1.6 which makes 118kw! Mind you, I think peak torque happened at 7000rpm and peak power was at 7700rpm? Lol, it got a bit noisy day to day I'd imagine!
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    This is Japans Best Kept Secret..

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    This is a nice exmaple of the Fabulas Charade GTTI.

    Sadly for us in Oz.. it never mad our shores in any such large quantities..

    This little marvile is a lot more potent then teh standard 3cy carbi you might find here..

    It still maintains ist 1L "well 993cc actually" But is a DOHC 12v Turbo intercolled engine..

    good in stock form for about 75kw at 6psi..

    Now the good nes is tho that these little enegiens are inceredable strong.. so much as in fact tunning them to 20psi for every day use is quite successfullnot as silly as its sounds.. All the internals have been forged.. with the only weak point being teh head gaskit that starts to winge up and above 25od psi.. lol

    "replacment bits to exist tho dance "

    So yeah.. Naturally at 20psi youd want a puter to look after fuleing.. and standard exhuast mods are also recomended...

    after that tho.. you have a incredable realibale shoping trolly capable of flying the quarter in high 13's

    Gearboxes somewhat seem to be made of some kind of cheese.. but many stronger kits exist

    This is my Dream Japanese car.. head_ban

    Best bit is.. bolts in to any 3cly bassed G100 charade.. and a tiny little bit more effort is required to wack it in teh older G11 shaped charade.. Ultimate Sleeper.. lol
    Her is a pic of teh little 3banger.. roll_lau

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    xqisid:

    thinking about a 90 Vtec CRX or a MR-2 GT instead (both can be had very cheaply in NZ)....
    Well the charade is about what 800 Kg even.... correct me if im off/wrong and was that 75Kw.
    The wedge shape CRX (jap spec) is, 890 Kg and with a Jenny craig treatment it gets down to 800 even, but makes about 115Kw, some moderate tuning has got 130Kw and has factory LSD,
    big brakes (for the size of the car) and handles better than a 205-Gti, and CAMS allows 16x7" rims so a 215/45/16 Race tyre fits well.... track monster.... those little Gtti charades are popular begginer Rally machines in F2.... but get eaten by Gtir likes and so forth...
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    hmmm.....the CRX definitely is a nice handler ..but better than 205gti...i dont think so...hell even wheels ,when they did the 205/crx/suzukigti
    test, said that neither the crx nor the little suzuki could touch the 205 when it came to handling...i ve driven all three stock and modified and when it comes to handling they dont come even CLOSE to the 205....
    before i bought my 205 i did look at some crxes as they r a bloody nice looking car and those motors are a real dream but the sheer torque and handling prowess of the 205 won me over hands down...

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    true.. a modified Charade woudl not stand a chance against a modified GTIR...

    Mind you.. when modified.. those 3 bangers.. get close to 200hp at teh wheels.. But true.. as far as handeling goes... well if you through enough $$$ at anything you can always make it handel 300% better then factory..

    Thankully tho. some care like teh 205, etc dont need buckets of $$$ to make them driveable at speed..

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    but still.. talking back about little Cheap FWD cars... Nothing beets the out of contorl torgue steer .. lol Anycar that focres you to fight with it in a straight line is allways going to be a barrel of fun.. head_ban head_ban

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    Hi eqisid, could you tell me where this said monster gti-r is ,sure it was 6 speed etc and what mag. was it in? just curious as i've discussed it on the gti-r forum and virtually
    no-one has seen/heard of this car from perth to darwin/tas etc.
    As there is not that many in the country we seem to keep a good record of comings and goings of this car.
    Can you please shed some more info on this car for me? cheers jr
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    Speaking of FWD torque steering beasts I had an ET Pulsar that had 75kw at the wheels on 12psi runing the standard setup except 2.5" exhaust and pod filter.

    This little beast used to spin in 1st gear no problem and in the wet when it came on boost 2nd gear was a change lanes affair. Its one of those things you either enjoy or hate. I thought it was great fun.

    But, before that I had a turbo Gemini that used to leave 20m lines in second. In the wet it was useless.....or even more fun, whichever way you want to look at it. head_ban

    All in all I'd have to say that the 2 cars I enjoyed the most driving were the GTi6 and my current 205. I just never wipe from the grin from my face when. dance

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    dino:
    hmmm.....the CRX definitely is a nice handler ..but better than 205gti...i dont think so...hell even wheels ,when they did the 205/crx/suzukigti
    test, said that neither the crx nor the little suzuki could touch the 205 when it came to handling...i ve driven all three stock and modified and when it comes to handling they dont come even CLOSE to the 205....

    cheers
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    I'd agree if we were talking about the Aussie delivered Si CRX.... BUT, im bragging about the JAP spec CRX, which started the whole TypeR thing... these things are better handlers than all 205's except a T16... don't beleive me thats fine. Most pug lovers don't..
    i've driven both on-track and i know what drives better.. and thats coming from a PUG lover, dont forget i own one. No crap, just a car with a considerably lowere C.O.G., bigger brakes,BA16 VTEC, no A/C, LSD, etc.. They are notorious machines in Japan and UAE.
    If this still dosn't do it for you then ill have to take you out for some laps, when and if i find one.. gota go to NZ to find one. GOOD excuse to hit the track aye??..
    cheers
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    ps, any excuse to find track time is a good one.....lol
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    jr20516v:
    Hi eqisid, could you tell me where this said monster gti-r is ,sure it was 6 speed etc and what mag. was it in? just curious as i've discussed it on the gti-r forum and virtually
    no-one has seen/heard of this car from perth to darwin/tas etc.
    As there is not that many in the country we seem to keep a good record of comings and goings of this car.
    Can you please shed some more info on this car for me? cheers jr
    Jr to be honest i have no idea were it is now, or who owns it. One thing im guessing on, is its not road registered as Compliance for Gtir's was alot harder then than now, but ive also been told its getting harder again, with some goverment rule changes????? is that right???
    The guy that brought the car in, we were sure was the owner, it stayed only for 3 days and we never got to drive it, only start it twice.
    Back then tracking systems were very expensive and fidly, im assuming they are better now.
    The magazine was a southern (aka Yokahama purchased) edition of Option2, i have lotsa Jap mates ive made working in hotels, and they love Option2 or DriftClub, but its funny.. few rate the Gtir at all, opting for things like SVII Effini Rx7's and R32GT-R, or Altos or Capucinos for the Kei cars...
    Original Truenos and 240Z's are popular too...
    But getting back to the crazzy jap Gtir we had in the workshop, for all i know its probably sitting in a garage or doing circle work..lol.
    By the way, why dont GTiR's ahve anywere to put the spare, or are the very few ive worked on just like that???
    I also remeber reading a Fast Fours article on a Gtir running 11.7's and another that i saw made the cover of Zoom.. you guys probably know of these already.
    Cheers
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    ps, apart from three little nobody shops in China Town, in Sydney CBD, i don't know of anywere else i can buy Option2 mag from.
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    Cheers for that info m8.
    Ps: they do have a place for a spare [i hope u mean tyre] as it is situated under the boot floor
    along with a special compartment for tools. [fits a 6 pack nicely too!!]
    cheers jr
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    Jr.. no probs m8.. but on last Q?
    whats the difference between a normal Gtir and the Homogulation model (?spell).
    Or is there none, as the one i was looking was a claimed "..rare one".
    cheers
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    xqisid- i read a few articles in sum Jap magazines about the GTiR.
    The homogololatrion model is a little lighter(ie no power windows, air con ect). And if i remember correctly handles a bit better. I also think the homogolation model has tougher internals.

    I think the homogolation model is just like the Mitsu Evolution RS models...basically a stripped down version thats ready to race
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