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    Driving along in my trusty truckster yesterday along a section of road known for speed cameras so I was sitting exactly on 60 on a wet day when a Clubsport comes screaming up behind way over the limit right onto my tow bar, he was so close I couldn't see his headlights, he really didn't like me sitting on 60. I kept trundling along ignoring him and came to a Commodore in the middle of the road turning right, I looked at the gap between him and the curb and thought yes I can fit through that so delliberately without braking so the brake lights wouldn't alarm my friend behind I sized up the gap and went straight through, then I watched as the clubby had its ABS working overtime trying to pull up. He was so close to me I can't imagine he stopped in time, the road was wet but I wasn't game to go back and see, I never saw him for the rest of the trip.

    So I beat a Clubsport without breaking any road laws and I was rapt.

    Anyone else done anything like that.

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    Really stupid of that clubsport tailgating you like that, but I can't agree with what you did either. You would have taught that clubsport driver a lesson, but what about the poor sod he crashed into. At worst the innocent driver waiting to turn right could have sustained whiplash and associated injuries, and at best they've got the hassles that go with an accident (even one when it's the other driver's fault). If I had someone crash into the back of my car when it has never been in an accident before, and especially if it's one of those accident where it doesn't get written off but the damage is just enough that the car will never handle the same again, I would be mightily pissed off. If an accident did occur, of course the majority of the blame lays with the clubsport driver whose driving style was just an accident waiting to happen, but your actions would've also contributed to that particular accident. I'm sure if it was witnessed, you could possibly also face an infringement for not indicating etc.

    I apologise for the sour note, but I honestly feel it's just something to consider because of the other innocent party involved. I faced a similar situation not long ago but I was the car behind and I definitely was not tailgating. I think I posted about it a while back. Just did a search and found it http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21623

    But I agree, there's no excuse for such ridiculous driving by the clubsport. Tailgating would be one of the biggest causes of accidents.
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    Surprised you couldn't *feel* his bloody foglights heating the back of your seat.

    I will not chastise you for, much at it may seem irresponsible, I gained great vicarious delight in your tale. And anyway, he didn't crash and learnt his lesson. Karma was with you, nice one
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    That action would be akin to putting your vehicle ahead of a tosser driving a van with a mobile phone glued to his ear, effectively causing his vehicle to be on auto pilot. Apply brakes slightly so brake lights come on

    Forward control vans are so ungainly during panic stops

    Not that I would ever suggest anyone would do such a thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by U Turn
    Really stupid of that clubsport tailgating you like that, but I can't agree with what you did either. You would have taught that clubsport driver a lesson, but what about the poor sod he crashed into. At worst the innocent driver waiting to turn right could have sustained whiplash and associated injuries, and at best they've got the hassles that go with an accident (even one when it's the other driver's fault). If I had someone crash into the back of my car when it has never been in an accident before, and especially if it's one of those accident where it doesn't get written off but the damage is just enough that the car will never handle the same again, I would be mightily pissed off. If an accident did occur, of course the majority of the blame lays with the clubsport driver whose driving style was just an accident waiting to happen, but your actions would've also contributed to that particular accident. I'm sure if it was witnessed, you could possibly also face an infringement for not indicating etc.

    I apologise for the sour note, but I honestly feel it's just something to consider because of the other innocent party involved. I faced a similar situation not long ago but I was the car behind and I definitely was not tailgating. I think I posted about it a while back. Just did a search and found it http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21623

    But I agree, there's no excuse for such ridiculous driving by the clubsport. Tailgating would be one of the biggest causes of accidents.

    Yeah well you've got to remember I was the innocent victim too, if I hadn't of done something to get him off my tale I could have been the next road rage victim all because I stuck to the speed limit. I doubt I'd have been charged with anything because it was a single lane road, there was no need to indicate and I didn't make any sudden direction changes, I just sized up a gap and drove through it at normal safe road speed. The fact that he couldn't fit isn't my problem.
    Besides, I don't know for sure he crashed, I went passed there hours later and there was no glass on the road, that doesn't mean anthing I know.

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    How to beat a Clubsport ???

    Easy .... with a BIG stick (Cronulla version only)

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    I beat a couple of young blokes in a hotted up Falcon Coupe at a traffic light drag once! It was raining and past the intersection was a parked car (in their lane) when the lights turned green, their engine roared, their wheels spun and that's where they stayed.
    I took off with a few extra revs, slipped the clutch a little to prevent the wheels spinning and the next thing you know, the dudes are behind me, the driver red faced, his mate giving him a ribbing!
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    Full points Dave. You can't be held responsible or accountable for the idiot in the Clubsport, he chose his actions!!
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    I hope their were no children,babies,old people or anyone for that matter in the innocent car.

    Potentially wreck someone/s life because someone else is acting like an idiot make you a bigger tool than the club sports
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    How to beat a Clubsport ???

    Easy .... with a BIG stick (Cronulla version only)

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    Or beat it with a club. Make it feel at home!
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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    How to beat a Clubsport ???

    Easy .... with a BIG stick (Cronulla version only)

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    To be polite you would have to do it in time with the beating sound from inside. Or syncopate even and put them off their stroke
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    If the nuff nuff in the ClubSport was driving with any level of competence he would not have crashed... simple!

    If he did and as much s I feel for the "inncocent party" it was totally the roesonsibility of the CLub Sport drive not another innocent car that was obeying the road rules and dirving to conditions.

    I can see it now.... "Sorry officer but the car I was tailgating doing 60kpm didn't brake and passed safely between the curb and the stationary vechicle... but I was a) too wide to fit and b) speeding so didn't have time to stop in time....!"

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    I've done this sort of thing several times ... Usually on corners where I know the road and offending head into the scenery (as opposed as another car).

    Most recent was through a local S bend. A lowered dunnydore had been tailgating me... So I don't slow for the 'S' bend and take the old rolly polly Cit through it on the limit, balancing the car on the throttle.... Last thing I saw in the mirror was dunydore heading sideways across the road into the scenery Another one was a bird with 'P' plates tailgating so closing I was bloody scared in her new'ish car (that daddy had obviously bought her), she must have messed it's front end up in a big way ... 'cos I happened to know the next round-a-bout quite well.... It's off camber and cuts in badly at the exit... Last thing I saw was her mounting the gutter and heading down off road on it's exit point ... Lessoned learnt... Don't tailgate old ratty looking Renault 12's There driver may well be a far better driver than you

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Cavanagh
    Yeah well you've got to remember I was the innocent victim too, if I hadn't of done something to get him off my tale I could have been the next road rage victim all because I stuck to the speed limit. I doubt I'd have been charged with anything because it was a single lane road, there was no need to indicate and I didn't make any sudden direction changes, I just sized up a gap and drove through it at normal safe road speed. The fact that he couldn't fit isn't my problem.
    Besides, I don't know for sure he crashed, I went passed there hours later and there was no glass on the road, that doesn't mean anthing I know.

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    ...although....tailgating usually means matching speed precisely.....and often one is much more prepared to brake suddenly....senses are hightened....
    The clubbie probably managed to pull up in time.......Still a very stupid thing to be doing when wet.....



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    I hope you all feel the same way when a clubby has been guided into the back of you cars
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    good work davo, the world is a better place without low iq clubsport driving bogans

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    lol it seems dangerous, although ive been hit from behind at about 60km/h and all i sustained was bruising on the chest and some sore knuckles

    ive seen you road warriors do worse and crazier things...great story david

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    ...although....tailgating usually means matching speed precisely.....and often one is much more prepared to brake suddenly....senses are hightened....
    The clubbie probably managed to pull up in time.......Still a very stupid thing to be doing when wet.....



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    dino, yeah that may be true, but I really would be very surprised if the clubbie managed to pull up in time. If there was no accident, the only thing I can think of is that he managed to fit into the gap as well.

    There is a world of difference between braking when the car in front is braking, as compared to braking when there is a completely stationary object in front of you. Even if the driver behind was not tailgating and was doing the speedlimit, it is still not an easy thing to go from 60 to 0 kph in less than 4 seconds, taking into account reaction time.
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    Dave,
    Thanks for the laugh.
    Just remember people, 95% of Commodore drivers are *&^%heads & the other 5% are still thinking about it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesteve
    lol it seems dangerous, although ive been hit from behind at about 60km/h and all i sustained was bruising on the chest and some sore knuckles
    And I know someone who was hit behind at 60km/h and it ruined their life. A young person who physically will never be the same again.

    Sorry Dave, but I think what you did was irresponsible. It's a great story 'til you think about the impact it could have had on the life of a person who had nothing to do with a w4nker tailgater, nor your frustration at same w4nker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gmrobins
    Just remember people, 95% of Commodore drivers are *&^%heads & the other 5% are still thinking about it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
    I've done this sort of thing several times ... Usually on corners where I know the road and offending head into the scenery (as opposed as another car).

    Most recent was through a local S bend. A lowered dunnydore had been tailgating me... So I don't slow for the 'S' bend and take the old rolly polly Cit through it on the limit, balancing the car on the throttle.... Last thing I saw in the mirror was dunydore heading sideways across the road into the scenery Another one was a bird with 'P' plates tailgating so closing I was bloody scared in her new'ish car (that daddy had obviously bought her), she must have messed it's front end up in a big way ... 'cos I happened to know the next round-a-bout quite well.... It's off camber and cuts in badly at the exit... Last thing I saw was her mounting the gutter and heading down off road on it's exit point ... Lessoned learnt... Don't tailgate old ratty looking Renault 12's There driver may well be a far better driver than you

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    I'd say these kids,if they aren't dead from the junk, would be driving clubsportsor or crummydoor show pony utes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renomad
    Hmmm I drive a Commodore, as well as a Renault! So what does that make me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by U Turn
    but I honestly feel it's just something to consider because of the other innocent party involved.
    Yeah, true true U Turn. There are days when I have to remind myself it isn't a game. I'd be distraught if someone rear-ended the car I was born in (then I might have to buy downunderyank's oil burner and paint it a better colour [and yes, it is spelt "colour"] ).

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