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    Eight speed auto:
    http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...8?OpenDocument

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    meh, its not an old H pattern so can you really use them?

    eeepers, solid specs, i wonder how much?
    Sort of makes buying a German look like a pretty serious mistake. (unless the prices arent that much different)

    its got as much power as a nuclear power plant... probably just as sterile to drive too

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate
    probably just as sterile to drive too
    Worlds best built blandmobile?
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    Whenever I see a contemporary japanese car... suddenly taxis start to look very attractive.

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    Its likely to suit the market its targeting very well indeed. But 0-100 in 5.5 secs? Yes, that would be pretty bland. No doubt the syrupy and refined V8 engine and incredibly smooth 8-speed auto would bitterly disappoint people who like the character of certain French autoboxes .

    Yeah, I'd have a bit of a giggle if I saw somebody having to suffer getting about in a Lexus, let alone one of those lesser, more disgusting Japanese brands. They just don't know what they're missing. And taxis these days, just so nice....
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    Tongue planted firmly in cheek, eh John.
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    1. This should be in the Toad Pond

    2. You people clearly have never driven a Lexus IS, esp the new IS250. It is a brilliant car, and is far from bland IMHO. It is fun to drive, and even has character I think, from my afternoon with one.

    3. Since the 8-speed is only for LS460 at this stage, you may well claim it is boring compared to an IS, but who here has actually driven one? Did'nt think so.

    Move this to the toad pond please moderators

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergetov
    1. This should be in the Toad Pond
    Because it has nothing to do with french cars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gti138
    Because it has nothing to do with french cars?
    Yup.

    I don't have a problem with the thread at all otherwise! Its just a pissing contest with Mercedes though. At some point you may as well use a CVT, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergetov
    Yup.

    I don't have a problem with the thread at all otherwise! Its just a pissing contest with Mercedes though. At some point you may as well use a CVT, surely?
    Agree there - Even Williams trialed and were going to run a CVT in F1 in 1993/4 However they were effectively outlawed when the FIA introduced rules indicating that cars must have a minimum of 4 and a maximum of 7 forward gears.
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    Well, I have driven an IS300 actually and could drive it every day if I wanted. A family member has one. Yes, it goes, but so does a Ford XR8 and a Commodore SS. I'd go as far as to say that either of those two cars has more "character".

    No, the only time I'd buy one was if I became afflicted by chronic insomnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmn
    Well, I have driven an IS300 actually and could drive it every day if I wanted. A family member has one. Yes, it goes, but so does a Ford XR8 and a Commodore SS. I'd go as far as to say that either of those two cars has more "character".

    No, the only time I'd buy one was if I became afflicted by chronic insomnia.

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    So cough up, which deeply characterful and competely unboring French masturpiece [sic] are you running at present .
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    Do I detect a note of sarcasm in your post Trixie?

    To answer your question:
    03 C5 and Xsara 1.6 (both auto). These were preceded by an 01 Xsara 2.0 manual.

    I NEVER get bored in the C5. The Xsara will be replaced by something with a bit more "grunt" for the missus. It won't be a C4, she doesn't like the looks.

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    mine was sarcasm, i'll use <sarcasm> tags next time

    I've driven an IS200 & rate them highly... high quality throughout, just lacks the fun of a Clio though!

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    Dont know what Lexus's drive like but looking at the photos in the article, that interior is frigin nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmn
    No, the only time I'd buy one was if I became afflicted by chronic insomnia.

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    I agree Jmn. I've driven an IS200, IS300, and an SC430. The IS200 auto was a snail, while the manual needed to be worked. IS300 auto had the power but as a driver it did nothing for me - I wish they'd bring this in in a manual - though the watch style dash was dated when it was new. The SC400 is a great luxo-barge, powersteering with no feel, but very comfortable. Not my cup of tea, yet, but beautifully built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmn
    Do I detect a note of sarcasm in your post Trixie?

    To answer your question:
    03 C5 and Xsara 1.6 (both auto). These were preceded by an 01 Xsara 2.0 manual.

    I NEVER get bored in the C5. The Xsara will be replaced by something with a bit more "grunt" for the missus. It won't be a C4, she doesn't like the looks.

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    No accounting for taste where your wife's concerned then. Suppose that at least means you don't have to bother to scrub up too often

    On a more polite and sensible note, the C5 is a treat to drive and not at all short of character. I imagine every journey would be a pleasure, as it is in my contemporary Japmobile. Had funds allowed, our fleet would include a 05 HDi C5. But its a bit too....bland, and the C4 looks great in our eyes. Then again, to me the BMW 1-series is gorgeous .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie
    Then again, to me the BMW 1-series is gorgeous.
    When viewed through Bangle Coloured Glasses. Ha ha!
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    lexus are really purpose built for suit wearing executives who want to look slightly in place at the golf club, so really, comparing them with french cars is like comparing oranges and mountain bikes.

    That said, any more gears and it really would be a mountain bike!
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    Do you have to get personal in your barbs? Not quite sure what you were intending to convey back there but it certainly didn't read like a compliment.

    I happen to like the C4. If youir manual goes the same as my two litre Xsara (manual) did then you have a hoot of a car. I just think it's at a bit dear for what it offers. Still, each to their own.

    My wife sees cars like kitchen or laundry appliances. Just can't understand why all cars don't go like the '91 Commodore SS I traded on the C5. Had 12 good years out of it and it was a "fun" car.

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    Now jmn, who's getting personal ; first there's this generalisation
    Quote Originally Posted by jmn
    Whenever I see a contemporary japanese car... suddenly taxis start to look very attractive.
    Then you suggest that your wife thinks my wife's taste is dubious
    Quote Originally Posted by jmn
    It won't be the C4. She doesn't like the looks
    But as Simon says, tongue is in cheek at all times, hence the [ ]. No personal affront intended

    Our C4 is the 1.6. Torquey and very driveable but no road rocket. Then again they are good value at RRP $26K, plus free on-roads when we did the deal.

    Back to Lexus. Clearly there is a decent market for those wanting the refinement, quality and reliablilty of these cars. Not sure they have more or less character than Benzes or everyday Audis. I suppose BMW is the one to get if you're after such things. What else is there? Alfa 166? Peugeot 605? Doubt that would be a better drive. We eagerly await the C6 but I fear we are few Then again, those I know who have driven and owned both IS 200/300 and BMW 3-series don't seem to find the little Lexus a dull car at all - sure its a bit weak low down but it seems very well-loved.
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    There is plenty of choice around the 3-Series segment. Not sure if you ever read the car sales threads in the Toad Pond...

    Volvo S40/S60, Jag X-Type, Alfa 156, Audi A4, Benz C-Class etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergetov
    There is plenty of choice around the 3-Series segment. Not sure if you ever read the car sales threads in the Toad Pond...

    Volvo S40/S60, Jag X-Type, Alfa 156, Audi A4, Benz C-Class etc.
    Cheers Sergetov, I have browsed those and yes, the IS has all manner of competition. I was more musing about ES (although god knows why ), GS and LS and alternatives to them.
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    What is a Lexus?
    It's a carefully marketed Toyota. That's fine. What's good about one?
    Quiet. Won't break down. Precisely made. Lots of switches, and lots of things standard that are optional on a Benz or BMW.
    That's about it.
    So what?
    Look at the cultural context where these cars arise from. Germany produces stuff that will be driven flat out regularly. Japan... ever been there? People just sit in traffic jams and play with their switches, or re-arrange their doilies on their back seats. Or drive to Kamakura at 80 kph.
    I despise these cars cos they stand for nothing. Cheaper, reliable cynicla soul-less copies of European cars. Toyota are smart enough not to copy, but still do!
    The IS200 (old one) was absolutely gorgeous, but a nothing car to drive. Depend if you want to be entertained by the driving experience or not.
    The only good ones I ever drove were that first LS400 and that recent big Landcruiser one, which is just a Landcruiser and doesn't really count.
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    The ES is shortly being discontinued after the launch of the new IS

    GS hmm what competition? The mind boggles:

    - BMW 5-Series
    - Benz E-Class
    - Jaguar S-Type
    - Audi A6

    LS?

    - BMW 7-Series
    - Benz S-Class
    - Jaguar XJ
    - Audi A8

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