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    Default Citroen VTR 2003 vs 206 GTI 2003

    First of all, hi guys .
    I love french cars and Im in two minds which car to buy.

    Xsara VTR costs $12,500, has one year warranty and if its mechanicly OK, sounds like great buy.
    206 GTI is around $20,000, has some warranty, but its much faster car.

    Which one is better buy? I know VTR ismuch cheaper and sounds like good deal, but is 206 GTI much better car and is it worth it extra money?


    Thanks guys .

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    The Xsara is by far a much better deal; running costs will be much less. Have never owned one, but was after a VTS prior to getting the first GTi.
    If not mistaken both VTR & VTS share the same suspension, which is a touch firmer than the GTi.

    Ask yourself if the extra 20 or so kWatts are worth the $7500 (plus reg. costs)

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    Not to mention the much bigger boot space which adds to its practicality. (not sure about figures, but the Xsara's is at least twice as big)

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    Thanks, Pug. So Citroen is cheaper to run? Are parts cheaper? IS VTR more reliable? If quality is the same and parts are same price, then more speed and more power could sway me to GTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    First of all, hi guys .
    I love french cars and Im in two minds which car to buy.

    Xsara VTR costs $12,500, has one year warranty and if its mechanicly OK, sounds like great buy.
    206 GTI is around $20,000, has some warranty, but its much faster car.

    Which one is better buy? I know VTR ismuch cheaper and sounds like good deal, but is 206 GTI much better car and is it worth it extra money?


    Thanks guys .
    Depends what you are after I guess. Different class of cars. The GTi will go better, will handle a bit better and is better equipped. VTR will have better economy, more space, bigger boot, better driving position. The VTR is still a nice car to drive, even though it could do with little more poke. Servicing costs are similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    I love french cars and Im in two minds which car to buy.
    Are you a "Driver" or "Cruiser" ?

    The VTR at $12K is line ball for private sale (if it has warrenty it'll be 2003 build most likely ? - remember they were only $24K new.. and no-one paid that). While the GTi of similar vintage does fetch $20K approx (new was $30K).

    The VTR is 1.6 v's 2 litre GTi, VTR is 100kg heavier but larger, as for cost they will be about the same for servicing, parts etc (both PSA cars afterall). Urban fuel consumption will be better in the GTi ... (provided you're not tempted to drop the foot all the time).

    So at those prices the VTR can't fall alot more, while the GTi has a bit to fall yet. All depends if you can afford the extra for the more fun ride.

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    Well to be honest Im looking for the one that will be more reliable and whose parts will be cheaper in the long run. I guess for GTIs extra speed I wil have to pay extra. I know GTI will cost more in fuel, but since I catch a bus to work, thats not a problem.

    So many decisions, my head hurts .

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    The GTi isn't THAT fast, sure it goes quick and all. but for a little bit extra, an older Integra Typer R can really leave the GTi in dire straits.

    By running costs, I was referring to fuel consumption.
    What sorta k's each of the cars has? service history is one of the first things you should be looking at; especially that they're both still under warranty nearing it's end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    provided you're not tempted to drop the foot all the time
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyO
    VTR will have better economy
    Not according specs urban and country ... VTR 9.0 and 5.5, GTi 8.0 and 5.6. GTi uses less fuel. Also VTR 11 second car ... GTi 8 second car (though speed maynot be everyones thing).

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    The VTR is 1.6 v's 2 litre GTi, VTR is 100kg heavier but larger, as for cost they will be about the same for servicing, parts etc (both PSA cars afterall). Urban fuel consumption will be better in the GTi ... (provided you're not tempted to drop the foot all the time).
    I know my GTi is still new and tight, but I found the VTR to have better fuel economy despite being driven fairly hard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pug4eva
    The GTi isn't THAT fast, sure it goes quick and all. but for a little bit extra, an older Integra Typer R can really leave the GTi in dire straits.
    The big advantage the GTi will have over the VTR is low down torque. The 2L in the GTi pulls well from low revs, whereas as the 1.6L can struggle a bit under load.

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    They are both 20 000kms vehicles. I don'y mind a bit of speed, but it is not the main factor. So guys you are saying that running costs and parts are similar in price?

    Which one is more relaible? Which one has better quality record? Which cars parts are easier to find?

    And thanks for all answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    Well to be honest Im looking for the one that will be more reliable and whose parts will be cheaper in the long run. I guess for GTIs extra speed I wil have to pay extra. I know GTI will cost more in fuel, but since I catch a bus to work, thats not a problem.

    So many decisions, my head hurts .

    The Xsara will be the cheaper of the two cars, cheaper to buy outright, and the other simple fact is that it shares a majority of its parts with a peugeot 306 so everything will be fairly common except for panels considering the 306 was first made in 1994. Also consider the fact that the Xsara will more as likely then not come with the remainder of it's new car warranty if you purchase a late model one.

    Another thing to consider would be to look for a VTS which would be a closer match to the GTI
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    Pavle, from your post I gather you've already seen the two cars in flesh.

    If so, rank them against their colours/looks, body condition, interior condition, mileage, service history and practicality.

    Seeing that the GTi is really tempting with it's better performance, put the mentioned factors in the equation and the lesser heart aching choice will become clear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Not according specs urban and country ... VTR 9.0 and 5.5, GTi 8.0 and 5.6. GTi uses less fuel. Also VTR 11 second car ... GTi 8 second car (though speed maynot be everyones thing).

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    I used to average under 9 in the VTR, pretty much all city driving. 10 average in the GTi so far, the only country run down past Nth Bannister to the Rally. I guess time will tell how the economy will pan out in the GTi however.

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    One thing I must say is that ironically for me, insurance has worked out cheaper for me for the GTi then it did for either the Xsara VTR or VTS. But it might be different for you over in Sydney.

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    There's also insurance to consider!

    Parts wise it shouldn't be a worry for both cars, and cost would be similar if not the same (of course to keep the warranty, genuine will have to be, and that'll cost more than after market replacements).

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    Quote Originally Posted by orestes
    Another thing to consider would be to look for a VTS which would be a closer match to the GTI
    Yes, the VTS would be another good choice if you can find one for the right price. Much better equipment levels than the VTR (much the same as the GTi), similar performance to the GTi.

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    I saw 2001 VTS, 50 000kms for around $19 000. Im sure it can be negotiated, but in that case 206 GTI sounds better deal (2003 model, 20 000kms).
    There are also 2002 206 GTIs that have done between 30-40 000kms, for around $17,500 -$18,500. If they are in good condition, are they better deals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    I saw 2001 VTS, 50 000kms for around $19 000. Im sure it can be negotiated, but in that case 206 GTI sounds better deal (2003 model, 20 000kms).
    Look at those details, the 206 looks the better deal, newer and lower kays. You could probably do a better deal on the VTS though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    There are also 2002 206 GTIs that have done between 30-40 000kms, for around $17,500 -$18,500. If they are in good condition, are they better deals?
    I suppose it depends on the condition of the cars.. One thing to remember is that 2002 206's will be out of warranty.

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    Payle, check this one out: http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/sho...295#post278295

    (looks like it's in superb condition and very low kms!)
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    Thanks Uga, that was the one I was talking about. Here is 206 GTI.

    http://carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/...ch_distance=25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    Thanks Uga, that was the one I was talking about. Here is 206 GTI.

    http://carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/...ch_distance=25
    Looks good. Supposedly owned by a "bridget" as well, so it wouldn't have been thrashed around....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    Thanks Uga, that was the one I was talking about. Here is 206 GTI.

    http://carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/...ch_distance=25

    i reckon go the Cit, I don't like the early gtis as much as the late ones. Colour coded bumpers make them look more classy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavle
    I saw 2001 VTS, 50 000kms for around $19 000. Im sure it can be negotiated, but in that case 206 GTI sounds better deal (2003 model, 20 000kms).
    OUCH!!! I bought my 2003 VTS with full leather, sunroof ect with 29000k's for $16K back in may.

    Go the Xsara, its a little different and no one knows what it is.
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