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    Default where the **** is TOTAL!

    Oscar walks into auto barn

    "Hi, ummm, do you have any total oil?"
    "Total wha?"
    "Total oil, you know, the stuff that keeps your engine clean?"
    "We don't sell anyothat around here..."

    GRRRR!

    I am located in Chatswood Sydney and my car NEEDS some Total oil... Where oh where do I get it???



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    Quote Originally Posted by rustymunga
    I am located in Chatswood Sydney and my car NEEDS some Total oil... Where oh where do I get it???
    Your car DOESN'T need it, you want it. Only pug dealers have Total and then not all of them. ELF is the same (same company). Why do you need oil, is your 180 burning huge amounts of it?
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    You wont't get that from autobarn....LOL

    Thoughg autobarn do sell motul, which i use in teh s16...and it's perfect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle
    motul
    Probably a better product then Total anyway. I use Helix Ultra in my Coupe, and in the 138 prior. I get it from Supercheap when they have their sales.

    Won a 5L container of Elf Excellium at RA2005, so it will be going in the Coupe very soon - 80k service due.
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    Total is the real deal tho.......

    What do you need oil for anyway? The dealer should handle that aspect of maintenance for you at your regular service intervals..
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    Renault a choisee Elf
    Citroen prefer Total
    Mais Peugeot?
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    Total oil ... is that like total football ???? Must be why it's so good. lol
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    Autobarn stock ELF oils though
    I bought it when they had 20% off. Synthetic ELF for $45.. very happy! I have yet to use it though.

    Currently running on Motul 8100.. very impressed first oil that I've actually noticed a difference in performance with..

    My car isn't a frog though, it's a rice burner

    Yes and I don't see why you need total. Motul is good stuff.. plsu it's french too if you're into keeping it all french. $59.95
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    Just get Elf mate, it still has the 'im a mad dog cause i use french oil' factor & will give you instant street cred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purrr-geot
    will give you instant street cred.
    Street cred for the oil you use, Ha!
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    I have personally witnessed Total oils at Regan Motors & Booran Euro here in Melbourne over the past week.

    Total, schmotal, I'm certainly not one of these French oil brand obsessives.

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    I have run up 3000km on the 180 (as I have been driving it everywhere coz its so cool) I want to get total oil to replace run in oil.

    I didn't know peugeot stocked it in their matinence places. Happy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kermit
    Street cred for the oil you use, Ha!
    Didn't you know? Asanka's little 205 smoke machine blow's little 'elf' symbol shaped rings out the exaust...

    It also makes the cars behind him slide around on his oil trail much more than valvoline too which makes him think he's a good driver when people can't keep up

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    My 180 has just hit 1000 kms today, but I have checked with the Peugeot dealership in my area twice and been told that it isn't necessary to change the oil until 6 months or 10000 kms.

    I was sceptical but I have asked twice on separate occasions and read the manual so I won't be changing it until the 6 months is up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    My 180 has just hit 1000 kms today, but I have checked with the Peugeot dealership in my area twice and been told that it isn't necessary to change the oil until 6 months or 10000 kms.
    And you expect them to actually know anything about engine run-in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    I was sceptical but I have asked twice on separate occasions and read the manual so I won't be changing it until the 6 months is up.
    You might want to reconsider that. New engines need their old changed to get rid of the metal particles that come from it in the first few thousand kms.

    Have a read of this:
    http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
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    Hey Kermit, I have read articles saying similar things before and I was going to change it at around 1000 - 1500 kms.

    But why if it was necessary wouldn't they have told me to do it? They could have got anything from $60 out of me for Total Oil up to whatever a service is worth, say $200+.

    I know what you are saying but I'm baffled as to why the head mechanic of this paticular Peugeot dealership would tell me something that could potentially be harmful to my new car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie
    Renault a choisee Elf
    Citroen prefer Total
    Mais Peugeot?
    C'est
    Renault a choisi Elf
    Citroen prefere Total

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide Perinet
    C'est
    Renault a choisi Elf
    Citroen prefere Total
    Oops, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    But why if it was necessary wouldn't they have told me to do it?
    It isn't actually necessary. Your engine won't die if you don't do it. It really is a personal thing. Generally people that care about their car want to do the right thing by it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    I know what you are saying but I'm baffled as to why the head mechanic of this paticular Peugeot dealership would tell me something that could potentially be harmful to my new car.
    Obviously the head mechanic isn't giving you the full story because he doesn't know any better. In a way they have saved you $ but they haven't told you why.

    Its not actually harmful but it may shorten the life of the engine, though you will probably have gotten rid of the car before it would affect you.

    Have you noticed how manufacturers don't specify oil changes until 20,000km. Once upon a time you would need to do one every 5,000km. Engine manufacturing and oil quality has improved, but the main reason for the long intervals, IMO, is manufacturers are trying to make car maintenance costs APPEAR to be less. If you follow the schedule servicing, ie every 20,000km for your 180 then by the time the engine needs a rebuild (serveral 100,000 kms) it will be way out of warranty. Where as if you replace oil/filters say every 10,000km then you may double the life of the engine.

    If it was my car I'd do an oil change about now and every 10,000km. Don't forget to change the filter. No point puting clean oil in with a used filter.
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    I've used mineral oil for the first 500km of a run in on a rebuilt swift gti engine.
    Helped the runin process, and any initial wear take progress....

    You would be suprised how many dealer mechanics will tell you the quick story to get away from you if you haven't got the wallet open handing over cash... Have experienced a couple of times....

    Find 1 mechanic, build a good relationship with him and all will be good, so long as he knows frenchies

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    Two things I'd do.

    1. Stop going to that dealer.

    2. Change the oil and filter yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pips
    Two things I'd do.

    1. Stop going to that dealer.

    2. Change the oil and filter yourself.

    pips
    It's a very good way to save yourself $150

    However, I do believe that if you want your warranty intact you won't be able to do this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    Hey Kermit, I have read articles saying similar things before and I was going to change it at around 1000 - 1500 kms.

    But why if it was necessary wouldn't they have told me to do it? They could have got anything from $60 out of me for Total Oil up to whatever a service is worth, say $200+.

    I know what you are saying but I'm baffled as to why the head mechanic of this paticular Peugeot dealership would tell me something that could potentially be harmful to my new car.
    Ekliptix,
    All good points you make. The article Kermit has pointed to is also great reading, all the run-in stuff the majority of us have ever learned is obsolete according to that. I am going to try his method when I run in my R10 when it's up and running. All of what he says makes more sense than 'babying' a new engine as we have been told.

    I'd change the iol asap if I was you, and you too Rusty, just to be safe. Do the filter too!

    Kermit....have you seen this Oil system??
    http://www.pmlubricants.com.au/

    They recommend 30,000km between? Hard to know what is right and what's not when it comes to Oils. If the stuff didn't work they'd be out of business, then again how long would it take to really show up if the oil isn't good?? Not cheap, but the graph they have shows a good saving if you use their system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide Perinet
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    Renault a choisi Elf
    Citroen prefere Total
    Soyons pédantiques: Citroën préfère Total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekliptix
    Hey Kermit, I have read articles saying similar things before and I was going to change it at around 1000 - 1500 kms.

    But why if it was necessary wouldn't they have told me to do it? They could have got anything from $60 out of me for Total Oil up to whatever a service is worth, say $200+.

    I know what you are saying but I'm baffled as to why the head mechanic of this paticular Peugeot dealership would tell me something that could potentially be harmful to my new car.
    It has to better for a change, even if it isn't essential. Service schedules are made to minimise costs and off-the-road-time for fleets ... I know in Aus most fleets don't buy Pugs but the schedules are international.
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