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    Default crystal/blue lights

    Hi all,

    Just wondering if anyone could advise me how much a decent pair of those crystal lights you see on bmw's and audi's etc, blue in colour (when on and facing you) they are annoying I know but I would like some.

    Anyone know how much?

    Anyone know if they are legal?

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    Anyone know if they will fit in both my foggies and normal lights?



    Thanks all

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    Default Blue lights

    Quote Originally Posted by rustymunga
    Hi all,

    Just wondering if anyone could advise me how much a decent pair of those crystal lights you see on bmw's and audi's etc, blue in colour (when on and facing you) they are annoying I know but I would like some.

    Anyone know how much?

    Anyone know if they are legal?

    Anyone know if they will fit in both my foggies and normal lights?



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    hi, rusty...

    What you are usually seeing are OEM hid (high intensity discharge, i think)...These are perfectly legal....there are however legal issues in wanting to install these on your car if they originally didn t have them or weren t available as an option....Kits and install prices range from around $600 plus but it all depends on brand.....

    If I may ask....is the reason you would like to get some purely asthetic or are you unhappy with your lights......
    My advice is to leave well alone if the lights are "good"...its a fair bit of trouble to go to for the "blue" look.........
    Maybe you should consider some of the phillips globes, they are well made (many in germany some in france)....The light "throw" may not increase but reflective property is better (ie signs are illuminated and come back whiter, same with other road markings)....
    I tryed everything with the 306, but their reflector design is so bad that no globe is going to help "much" (its currently got arctic whites in it)........
    The bulbs in the 505 were shockers (el cheaposs)...so I ve put some gt 150 philips and I m quite impressed with them....they are kind of a cross between blue visions and 50% vision plus....
    But like I said earlier...if lights are good, just leave it alone.......its up to u.
    With me, its more about safety than aesthetics....I dislike the cheap asian copies that actually appear blue and I have no issues with the police throwing the book at those owners...


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    I think the ones you see in Beemer's and the like are xenons or HID? The bulb replacements don't give quite the same effect, I hear the're still good though. You can do headlight replacements to get the HID's but I think you need to install headlight washers for it to be legal, not sure though?
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    ...they might also require self levelling...not sure...either way, the legallity issues need to be paid serious consideration...maybe consult with local traffic authority,...Mistareno might/should be up to speed on these...It seems however that the police dont "hassle" those with what appear to be sensible "white" upgrade options....there is so many different vehicles with xenons/hid it must be hard to make sense of what should be legal or illegal...........
    Blue and red washer jets, thats altogether different...i abhore these...


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    I'll stick with me fluffy dice and noddy dog thank you very much.
    The chequered picnic rug on the rear shelf (with the noddy dog sitting on it) ads a nice touch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    ...they might also require self levelling...not sure...either way, the legallity issues need to be paid serious consideration...maybe consult with local traffic authority,...Mistareno might/should be up to speed on these...It seems however that the police dont "hassle" those with what appear to be sensible "white" upgrade options....there is so many different vehicles with xenons/hid it must be hard to make sense of what should be legal or illegal...........
    Blue and red washer jets, thats altogether different...i abhore these...
    The regulations (in Vic atleast) state that ALL ORIGINAL LIGHTS must be it's ORIGINAL colour...(ie: white park lights, orange indicator)

    The Cool Blue/Phillips Blue halogen globes are just a very cool white light compared to normal headlights and are legal within reason.

    Changing parklight globes to another colour are illegal but ADDITIONAL lights (washer jet lights, golf ball fog lights etc) can be fitted provided there are not RED coloured lights facing forwards and they are not flashing or dazzling...

    BTW - I'm under the impression that it's projector xenon's that have that blue/yellow light change...

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    ahhh...alan...u might need to catch up a little...

    C, u ve gotta ripppp the dogs head clean offff......and just let it rollll on the parcel shelf............This will indicate to everybody that you are carrying some serious BASS power...ie BiG woooffersssss......so the dog has gotta go headless if you want "street cred".....dice isn t going to cut it...but I hear its making a comeback...sometime around 25 december....


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    Quote Originally Posted by dino
    ahhh...alan...u might need to catch up a little...

    C, u ve gotta ripppp the dogs head clean offff......and just let it rollll on the parcel shelf............This will indicate to everybody that you are carrying some serious BASS power...ie BiG woooffersssss......so the dog has gotta go headless if you want "street cred".....dice isn t going to cut it...but I hear its making a comeback...sometime around 25 december....


    cheers


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    Thank you for that info mistareno.......I suspected the same, but its good to hear it confirmed on the forum......


    cheers


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    Hold on a second............only the select know how "BIG" I really am.........







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    Rusty ol' mate, you seem determined to make yourself copper bait between noisy exhausts, lowered suspensions and annoying bloody headlights.
    Do the job properly; Why not wait until the next graduation day at the Police Academy and just as they have the march past in front of the commissioner, the premier and all the local dignitaries and wannabe VIPs, just drive past and chuck 'em a moon out the drivers window....I'm sure that would work almost as well and who knows, you might even get your name in the paper as a bonus.


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    I'll do that with my C4, as long as you can guarantee it'll make the papers.

    Anything to promote the great marque of Citroen, we need every bit of PR we can muster up.

    A prison term is worth it, as long as Citroen dealers manage to sell a few more Citroens.

    I doubt i'll be able to "march" past in the C4 More like drive past in a slothful manner
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    Rusty- I got a BJ Union HID 6000K kit for my car.
    Its a H7 universal fit kit.

    It comes with the two globes...2 ballast units..2 ignitor units. All the associated plugs and wiring and will take about 30 mins to install.

    They do make a difference over the standard halogen bulbs and i dont think i could go back to standard halogen again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno
    The regulations (in Vic atleast) state that ALL ORIGINAL LIGHTS must be it's ORIGINAL colour...(ie: white park lights, orange indicator)

    The Cool Blue/Phillips Blue halogen globes are just a very cool white light compared to normal headlights and are legal within reason.

    Changing parklight globes to another colour are illegal but ADDITIONAL lights (washer jet lights, golf ball fog lights etc) can be fitted provided there are not RED coloured lights facing forwards and they are not flashing or dazzling...

    BTW - I'm under the impression that it's projector xenon's that have that blue/yellow light change...
    This is another item that you might be interested in relating to the
    coloured lights that some 'people' are now fitting to their vehicles.


    Just to add to the knowledge this was advice I received from a colleague of Mistarenno's on this subject
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    The boom of non-essential lights, including fluorescent lights under
    vehicles and the smaller ones on bonnets or wiper blades (generally blue in
    colour), on motor vehicles is continuing, creating confusion about their
    legality.

    A little history about non-essential lights: the Road Safety (Vehicles)
    Regulations 1988, required motor vehicles and trailers to comply with the
    Standards for Registration (Victorian Government Gazette S15, 1 March 1988).

    Clause 702 of these Standards prohibited the fitment of lamps or reflectors that weren't required or permitted.

    The Regulations were repealed in 1999, as too were the Standards, and replaced by the current Road Safety (Vehicles) Regulations 1999, incorporating the Standards for Registration at Schedule 8.

    In making the new Regulations and Standards, Victoria adopted the National
    Light and Heavy Vehicle Standards. The current Standards for Registration,
    unlike the old, does not prohibit the fitment of lamps that are not
    prescribed.

    What they do require, is for vehicles to be fitted with the lamps specified
    in the Standards and the Australian Design Rules. In addition, clause 118(2)
    of the Standards allows a vehicle to be fitted with any other lamp or
    reflector, providing it does not show a red light to the front, a white
    light to the rear or a light that flashes.

    With regards to dazzling lights, clause 75 of the Standards stipulates a
    light (except a high-beam headlight), fitted to a vehicle must be built and
    adjusted to provide the necessary amount of light, without dazzling the
    driver of another vehicle approaching, or being approached by, the vehicle.
    Additionally, if any light fitted to a vehicle (whether it complies or not)
    is used to dazzle, or in a way likely to dazzle another road user, then the
    driver may be charged accordingly (Road Rules-Victoria rule 219 applies).

    The Macquarie Dictionary defines dazzle as 1. To overpower or dim (the
    vision) by intense light. 6. Temporary loss of vision, or temporary
    reduction of visual acuity, related to the presence of a bright (possibly
    moving) source of light.

    VicRoads' guideline (Vehicle Standards Information Sheet 8) permits the
    fitting of additional forward and rearward facing lamps, which comply with
    or are permitted by the Standards. Mandatory lights fitted to a vehicle must
    continue to comply with the relevant Standards.

    If a vehicle is fitted with lights in accordance with the Standards and used
    in accordance with the Road Rules-Victoria, then police can take no action.
    If a light fitted to a vehicle does not comply with the Standards, then a
    defect notice may be issued and the driver charged accordingly.

    As to the use of fluorescent lights under vehicles and the blue lights fitted to
    vehicle bonnets or wiper blades, providing they do not dazzle other road
    users, they are quite lawful.
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    Essentially the same wrapped in legal speak

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    Don't want to make my car cop bait guys.

    Remember when the warrenty runs out, all I will do is lower it and thats it.

    Globes are EXPENSIVE, never thought they would be this pricy $$$!!!

    So WRCPUG, are these blueish in colour, like the ones you see on bmmers???

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    they are a little more blue than the BMW/AUDI ones.
    Mine are 6000K

    I think the OEM ones are around 4300-5000K

    Mine look more like the Honda Accord Euro in colour.

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    For info on HID go here
    http://www.xenondepot.com/
    http://www.xenonoz.com/

    Check out this thread to understand any questions you may have about them

    http://forums.eurocca.net/showthread.php?t=1520

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    Nice

    Thanks WRCPUG, very helpful.

    Thanks eccy, that was helpful too

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    So Rusty, when will ya be ready for the indoctrination cruise? You know, Putty rd....
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    I've tried thos Crystal Blue/ Arctic whit bulbs. Both Phillips and Narva. I always found the blue tinge to hinder visibility, especially long range. I just use 50+ globes now

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    got a set of PIAA plasma blue 7500k bulbs they are very good , about A$120

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