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    All this talk about petrol, anyone else watching the progress of the WSC ???

    http://www.wsc.org.au/

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    There is a few Australian teams and a French one. Shame about the UNSW team again failing to make it to the start line ... major failure in the suspension, must make the highschool teams feel better about their progress. And this is the second year time in a row UNSW failed to make the start line, last time on the trip up to Darwin they rolled the trailer with the solar car in it !!! Ouch.

    So solar Pugs/Ren/Cits ? ..well not any day soon, but running accessories off solar panels in the roof (think Mazda 929) is still an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    So solar Pugs/Ren/Cits ? ..well not any day soon, but running accessories off solar panels in the roof (think Mazda 929) is still an option.

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    I've got several solar panels and have set up a remote solar power system
    on a block near Brookton. Its been running for 12 years now and still works
    a treat supplying enough power for several lights and negates the need for
    a generator. The spare panels have seen service on a caravan and pop up
    tent trailer to power up the fridge and charge batteries while camping

    I can't understand why no-one has thought of using installed solar panels in
    a roof of a car to power up fans to keep a parked car ventilated in hot
    weather. I've seen aftermarket devices that do this that hang in a window
    but a built in device would be fantastic and it could help keep the battery
    in top shape when not being used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    I've got several solar panels and have set up a remote solar power system
    on a block near Brookton. Its been running for 12 years now and still works
    a treat supplying enough power for several lights and negates the need for
    a generator. The spare panels have seen service on a caravan and pop up
    tent trailer to power up the fridge and charge batteries while camping

    I can't understand why no-one has thought of using installed solar panels in
    a roof of a car to power up fans to keep a parked car ventilated in hot
    weather. I've seen aftermarket devices that do this that hang in a window
    but a built in device would be fantastic and it could help keep the battery
    in top shape when not being used.

    cheers,

    Wouldn't you have to leave the car parked in the sun to keep the charge up?

    Park in the shade and you don't need the solar panel cooling.

    Chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biologist
    I can't understand why no-one has thought of using installed solar panels in
    a roof of a car to power up fans to keep a parked car ventilated in hot
    weather. I've seen aftermarket devices that do this that hang in a window
    but a built in device would be fantastic and it could help keep the battery
    in top shape when not being used.

    cheers,

    They have. A version of the last Mazda 929 (late 90's I think, without looking) had solar panels in the sunroof which powered a fan to circulate air in the cabin when the car was parked. Not sure how effective it was.

    I agree it sounds like a great idea.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance
    Wouldn't you have to leave the car parked in the sun to keep the charge up?

    Park in the shade and you don't need the solar panel cooling.

    Chance.
    Nope, solar panels will work quite well in cloudy or obscured (shady)
    situations as long as the current draw required isn't high.
    A small fan will work well under those conditions and in the shade would
    keep the car even cooler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    All this talk about petrol, anyone else watching the progress of the WSC ???

    http://www.wsc.org.au/

    There is a few Australian teams and a French one. Shame about the UNSW team again failing to make it to the start line ... major failure in the suspension, must make the highschool teams feel better about their progress. And this is the second year time in a row UNSW failed to make the start line, last time on the trip up to Darwin they rolled the trailer with the solar car in it !!! Ouch.

    So solar Pugs/Ren/Cits ? ..well not any day soon, but running accessories off solar panels in the roof (think Mazda 929) is still an option.

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    I'm almost embarassed to be a UNSW alumni. Most of all I feel sorry for their photovoltaics department. They invent the most efficient solar panels in the world, to have the poorly funded mech. department screw things up.
    Take the long way home....

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    Isn't Peugeot participating with the face lifted 307 HDi?

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    The dutch win for the third time running

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...9/s1470357.htm

    Averge speed of 102.75 kilometres per hour, not bad for a solar car !

    Victorian team Aurora and the University of Michiganís car Momentum are bumper to bumper 180 kilometres north of Adelaide. Japanís Sky Ace Tiga was a further 10 minutes behind in fourth place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Averge speed of 102.75 kilometres per hour, not bad for a solar car!

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    Cool, well the speed is. Now when they put climate control in a solar car
    and achieve those speeds I'll buy one!

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    Me figures lack of climate control is not the only limiting factor in a solar car.

    ed ge

    cup holders?
    coin rack?
    vanity mirrors?
    glovebox interior light?
    rear dvd player?
    remote reversing sensors?..............................

    the list goes on and on

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
    Me figures lack of climate control is not the only limiting factor in a solar car. the list goes on and on
    And imagine getting hit by a 4WD in one of those !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    And imagine getting hit by a 4WD in one of those !!!

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    Sad eh?
    Hopefully sanity will prevail in the future and we will have solar powered
    cars of all types including off roaders. In practical terms a solar powered
    off roader would be lighter, have greater startup torque, no need to constantly
    refuel so could cruise for weeks without carrying 100's a litres of fuel,
    the list goes on and on.

    I'd like to see an off-road solar challenge across Australia. That would push
    the boundaries of solar vehicle applications and speed the deal knell for
    all those massive land barges out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Averge speed of 102.75 kilometres per hour, not bad for a solar car !
    Why do I get the thought that a Victorian was at the wheel
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    Clever!......................... need poll to see who knows why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
    Clever!......................... need poll to see who knows why? ed ge
    Come on ... give us more credit then that ... Yes a great comment rek.

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    Yes - x T c -, i know you and others are, that was for those that aren't.

    So who doesn't know why? com'n fess up!

    I'm from Adelaide remember! lots of froggers not from Victoria.

    I wanna no ok e

    d ge

    figured that out too no doubt, mr smarty pants - x T c -

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    Quote Originally Posted by XTC
    Shame about the UNSW team again failing to make it to the start line ... major failure in the suspension, must make the highschool teams feel better about their progress. And this is the second year time in a row UNSW failed to make the start line, last time on the trip up to Darwin they rolled the trailer with the solar car in it !!! Ouch.
    One of my friends was in the Landcruiser 100-series that they rolled in that accident... not good. He's ok now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller
    So who doesn't know why? com'n fess up!
    Count me in. Other than bad spelling of 'average' and the word 'Victorian' appearing immediately afterwards, I see no hints of cleverness.
    Tell me ... I must know!

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    Sorry Gonz, we need more replies?




    hey you


    Why is implication in reply #13 "clever"?

    yes you, haven't replied to this? do it now!!!!!!!



    or I'll ed ge rkate yere.
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    Your answer is right there ... once again you've proved to be a bit of an enigma edgie.

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    Sorry, not interested enough to wonder why.
    So many shiny things to play with.

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    I know, and I am a VW owner from Canberra!!!

    On the topic of solar, how many car manufacturers are looking into the source? Sadly, VW isnt. There latest answer is high performance TDI's and TSI's. The latter is a 1.4L engine putting out 170bhp with a s/c and turbo. Short term solution unfortunately, but both deliver great performance without using much fuel at all.

    Biologist, how much did it/ would it cost to set up panels in a normal house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrgolf
    Biologist, how much did it/ would it cost to set up panels in a normal house?
    I setup a very small solar system with one 80W panel, a mounting pole
    a regulator, single battery and five 12 volt fluro lights in two banks at a
    remote property I used to own in 1988. The system cost (then) $1100
    and has been running ever since without a problem.
    We also priced a slighlty larger system with two panels, two batteries
    and regulator at around $2000 in 1990.
    These are weekende type systems that provide lights and thats all.
    But its a whole heap easier than using a generator and a lot quieter

    For a house, it depends on your average weekly use load. If you have a
    massive fridge and freezer, do a lot of washing in a dishwasher and
    numerous loads of clothes washed a week then it could cost as much as
    $30-40K to set up a totally self sustaining solar powered power plant.
    This would be similar usage to someone with a big family and a powerbill
    in the $200 or more range every 60 days.

    If your a miser like me and have a power bill of around $60-80 for 60 days
    usage you could probably get a suitable solar plant installed for around
    $10-15 K. With careful selection of lights, placing, house design, and
    appliances even bigger power users could reduce thier power requirements
    and hence use a smaller plant.

    A wind generator is also a good option as it works at night as well.
    You wouldn't need a big unit, just one that ticks over in light to moderate
    winds and tips back into "safe mode" in very high winds to save itself
    from self destruction.

    I'm hoping, funds allowing, to build myself a solar passive and powered
    home and sell any extra power produced back into the grid, which everyone
    should do I reckon

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    I suppose being a 'bit of an enigma' is better than being an open book. And I have only been awake for 15 minutes, not even begun to empty coffee cup, exie your gibberish is to hard to decode, I know the answer anyway and I'm going to tell the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, soon. oooooooowwwwwwww my head.

    ed g

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