Next gen PSA engines coming when?
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    Default Next gen PSA engines coming when?

    I've just been reading up on some new Volkswagen engines which have got me quite excited so I was wondering if there is any news out there about developments on the PSA front? I remember reading they were working with BMW on their petrol engines.

    I hope they manage to stay competitive with VAG:

    1.4 TFSI:
    At the International Motor Show (Cars) in Frankfurt, Volkswagen is presenting to the general public a ground-breaking innovation in the drive sector: The world’s first twin-turbocharged FSI engine – the “Twincharger”. The compact 1.4 litre direct-injection engine develops up to 125 kW / 170 PS and has a maximum torque of 240 newton metres in the range from 1750 to 4500 rpm thanks to the combination of an exhaust turbocharger with a mechanically driven compressor.

    The 1.4 litre engine delivers a power output of 90 kW / 121 PS per litre, representing a peak value for a series production four-cylinder engine. Furthermore, the “Twincharger” delivers a torque corresponding to a naturally aspirated engine with a swept volume of approx. 2.3 litres. And its fuel consumption is around 20 percent lower.
    2.0 TDI:
    Volkswagen is also launching the Golf GT with the most powerful diesel engine on the market and the most powerful that has ever been available ex-works in a Golf: the 2.0 TDI with 125 kW / 170 PS: The exceedingly frugal Golf GT 2.0 TDI is exciting to drive because it offers impressive power reserves in all situations. The direct-injection pump/nozzle turbo diesel with piezoelectric elements, four-valve technology, two overhead camshafts and a diesel particulate filter as standard develops 125 kW / 170 PS at 4000 rpm. Its torque curve reaches an imposing maximum of 350 newton metres on a plateau of 1800 to 2500 rpm. The performance figures for this, the most powerful Golf TDI ever, are convincing across the board: It achieves a maximum speed of 220 km/h (136 mph) and accelerates from stationary to 100 km/h (62 mph) in only 8.2 seconds; and all this with a consumption of only 5.9 l/100 km (47.9 mpg) diesel.

    Do you think this might be the future of petrol engines? Having a few turbos and a much smaller capacity than usual? And a 125kw/350nm diesel engine in a hatch is just hot

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    a quick surf on the PSA/BMW engines found:

    (some entertaining/ridiculous/tiresome comments in the second link...i just found them amusing - 'keep britain german!' )

    seems weight reduction & efficiency were as much a priority as power output (fair enough too). weight reduction is as much a friend to performance as economy, after all. which is not to diminish the VW efforts - impressive specs indeed.

    this one shows some potential for the engine (pity it won't be sold)
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