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    Default What do FCO's look like?

    You've heard of UFO's (Unidentified Flying Objects) a.k.a. Flying saucers

    ELO. Electric Light Orchestra. Long haired rockers

    CEO. Chief Executive Officer. Well dressed, drives a car that usually doesn't suit his personality. Takes the credit for others incentives but blames others when they don't work out. When young, tries to look more mature to gain respect. When old, dyes hair and generally tries to look younger whilst trying to bonk the secretary.

    CMO. Chief Medical Officer. Often seen in long shirt and tie. Thin, sharp features and curt attitude towards subordinates and media. Wallks in a very determined manner and tends to walk either through or around people who may get in the way. Queensland of course being an exception where he can be Indian, fat, smokes a lot, when spoken to say "no that's my brother" runs more than walks and usually drives off at high speed. (But that's another story)

    So.............what, you may ask is a FCO...??

    F rench C ar O wner...................Long associated with people who have beards, long hair and smoke pipes (and wait until you see the men!!) wearing berets and beanies on cold mornings, the FCO has been typecast over the years. So much so, that I once worked for a French car dealer who used to watch people walk through the door and we'd make bets on what they drove, not just the brand, but the model even, and in most cases he was correct. This was quite a few years back now, but have things changed all that much? I thought I'd ask this due to a posting I've just read on an overseas forum, where two "virtual" friends were going to meet up at a car show but didn't know what each looked like, so here was the description.
    Its looking increasingly likely that I will get there, I am the long haired fat geezer Mad , specs, grey/white beard, bush hat!
    Will drive about in my white BX with........
    so there's still some of the "old brigade" that fit the mould, so what's everybody's idea of a stereotypical FCO??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Its looking increasingly likely that I will get there, I am the long haired fat geezer Mad , specs, grey/white beard, bush hat!
    Will drive about in my white BX with........

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    I thought FCO stood for;


    Failing Cricketers Overseas

    But you guys are in luck apparently.

    I met with my cricket mad accountant late last week, and he is convinced the ashes will be going back down under.

    Unfortunately he is never wrong.



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    Icon10 back in the 80's

    didn't there used to be a law which stated you had to be a bearded university proffessor with a brown tweed jacket, with leather elbow patches to drive a DS?

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    bearded university proffessor with a brown tweed jacket, with leather elbow patches to drive a DS?
    That would be my definition of a FCO

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    Judging by the number of Pugs parked outside nightclubs these days I tend to think FCOs are funky, hip, happening people with their fingers on the pulse of modern underground culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone Free
    Judging by the number of Pugs parked outside nightclubs these days I tend to think FCOs are funky, hip, happening people with their fingers on the pulse of modern underground culture.
    I kinda think there's a joke in there somewhere, but I'ma not gunna touch it!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Australdi
    didn't there used to be a law which stated you had to be a bearded university proffessor with a brown tweed jacket, with leather elbow patches to drive a DS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone Free
    Judging by the number of Pugs parked outside nightclubs these days I tend to think FCOs are funky, hip, happening people with their fingers on the pulse of modern underground culture.
    oh, ok, for sale; 205 GTi, only driven on w/ends, mainly country miles...
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    Default Descriptions of driver types 1983-84

    In the Australian Motoring Year book under the caption A Classy Car is Man's Best Friend page 165 -166 there is a rather amusing piece about car/dogs/and owner types and on the subject of Ferrari ownership he makes the observation

    "I have never met an Italian in Australia who owns a Ferrari; they all drive Valiants or Benzes" - now on the FCO's.

    Quote All Peugeot owners live in Balwyn in Melbourne, and go down to the super-market every Saturday morning dressed in 1960's op-shop clothes. Peugeot station wagons are owned by Catholic families with 32 children and generally ernest expressions, who drive for Meals On Wheels.

    In Sydney they barrack for Norths, In Melbourne for Footscray. They also cherish the idea of driving their Peugeot around Australia, because this is what Peugeots are supposed to do. but this year they're going to Fiji instead.

    Citroen owners are Peugeot owners who have decided that the world has not made a proper car since the 1930's. They flagellate themselves with eucalyptus branches on cold winter mornings and get into a suitable mood to drive the CX2400 and enjoy its hydro-oleo-pneumatic-electro imitation of an automatic menopause. To Citroen owners, other cars are simply obstructions on the carriageway.

    Lancia owners fall into two categories they are either Fiat owners with a university education, or they believe that the old brothers Lancia, who made such wonderful cars, are still alive and well, Either way, they're wrong.

    Other cars/owner descriptions (eliminated for brevity of post)- Mercedes owners, Jaguar, Porsche owners, Saab -turbos, Rolls Royce owners, Volvo owners, BMW Owners, Jaguar and Daimler, Alfa Romeo owners, Saab and Audi owners,

    Now on to the japanese . forgetting the personal coupes like like the Mazda RX7, Datsun 280ZX, Mitsubishi Starion and Scorpion, and Toyota Celica - all of which are bought by men with gold bangles, blue rinsed matrons, or latent street racers -

    the japanese are intruding on the prestige car market, like the Toyota Cressida, Datsun 280C, Nissan Skyline and Mazda 929. All these cars are bought with money left over from converting their superannuation into a rose bedewed plot at Heavenly Crema-Rest.

    The main concern is gentle restful progress observed through tinted windows, listening to Derryn Hinch or John Laws on a multi-function stereo system that is never be used because it totally mystifies.. Unquote..

    The author is not named but from the off beat and politically incorrect humour, I kind of suspect that he could have been a Renault French Car driver as that make/owner is not mentioned.

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    FCO - Financial Controlling Officer?

    Anyway, I don't think the stereo types really apply. There is still something there but not to the same extent. For example lets take my car, the 505:

    The Peugeot 505 is a nice, if somewhat boring looking 80s sedan that is now days owned by nice old people who have owned the same car since 1985 (especially the perfect 505 Executives slowly farting around Surry Hills and Mount Waverley). However they are cheap and are bought by young people too! Thats when it diversifies quite a bit. I used to get quite excited seeing another P plate 505 at uni thinking it would be a like minded enthusiast but it simply isn't always the case. Lots of girls seem to be driving 505s and they don't seem to know anything about their cars. I'm guessing its because daddy read that it was a really safe car and bought it for them. You do also get the enthusiasts - look for the 505s with Cheviot alloys, ripped out back seat and PCCV stickers - and then the people like me who love driving them, looking after them and enjoy being a little bit different.

    I must admit though sometimes I think I'm a living cliche - I'm an Arts (Political Science) undergrad who wears pink t-shirts, occasionally eats vegetarian stuff at Whole Foods (crazy socialist place at uni which I must admit scares me somewhat) and drive a Peugeot. But hey, I'm proud of it
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    Quote Originally Posted by nJm
    Anyway, I don't think the stereo types really apply.
    so true nick! for instance...the Fuego...stereotype...hairdressers car

    of course anyone who knows me....knows I haven't been near a hairdresser in at least 4 years!!

    and can you picture Kenfuego doing the tressome ad??? ....I hope not!

    although MrRenault has been rumoured to use a hairdryer from time to time....he only does it in the work cars

    but there is some truth to it...I have it on good authority that the Gonz cuts his own hair!


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    so what about folically challenged, slim and quite often found with a smoke hanging out of ones mouth
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    so what about folically challenged, slim and quite often found with a smoke hanging out of ones mouth
    Now.....................where have I heard that description before?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Now.....................where have I heard that description before?


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    you been talking to Gerry or Craig
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    Quote Originally Posted by nJm
    occasionally eats vegetarian stuff at Whole Foods (crazy socialist place at uni which I must admit scares me somewhat) and drive a Peugeot. But hey, I'm proud of it
    Dude, cheapest best food at uni. Veggo club lunch all you can eat for $2. great vege curry...... (well newcastle uni at least)

    I don't think the stereo types really apply. There is still something there but not to the same extent
    As for stereo types, hows this for a problem of catagories??

    I'm a 23yr old uni student doing Occupational Health & Safety (i know, I know......), that works at an expensive upmarket bottleshop (with no OH&S) where I have aussie hip hop playing on the stereo, attached to an old peoples Pub where they play 70's covers. I have baggy pants, sexist t-shirts (bought by my g/f), a yellow baseball cap that never leaves my head (but worn forwards). I drive a beige 505 Sti with a tweed interior, a dent and rust but also a bright red Swift gti (with naked girls on its seat covers also bought by my g/f) that was recently defected for an illegally loud exhaust (now replaced). And I'm now very folically challenged (thanks for reminding me Pugrambo).

    And my dream car involves a 505, turbo, 300hp, rollcage, tweed, beige, old mans hat and a box of tissues.........

    I don't know whether I want to be a ricer try hard or an old man???

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosspug
    Dude, cheapest best food at uni. Veggo club lunch all you can eat for $2. great vege curry...... (well newcastle uni at least)



    As for stereo types, hows this for a problem of catagories??

    I'm a 23yr old uni student doing Occupational Health & Safety (i know, I know......), that works at an expensive upmarket bottleshop (with no OH&S) attached to an old peoples Pub. I have baggy pants, sexist t-shirts (bought by my g/f), a yellow baseball cap that never leaves my head (but worn forwards). I drive a beige 505 Sti with a tweed interior, a dent and rust but also a bright red Swift gti (with naked girls on its seat covers also bought by my g/f) that was recently defected for an illegally loud exhaust (now replaced). And I'm now very folically challenged (thanks for reminding me Pugrambo).

    And my dream car involves a 505, turbo, 300hp, rollcage, tweed, beige, old mans hat and a box of tissues.........

    I don't know whether I want to be a ricer try hard or an old man???

    Jono

    old man try hard with ricer tendencies

    BTW don't be afraid of bieng folically challenged, it will go well with the tweed interior
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    Quote Originally Posted by pugrambo
    BTW don't be afraid of bieng folically challenged, it will go well with the tweed interior
    I think my wife likes 'folically challenged' men....

    I'm her 'work in progress'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistareno
    I think my wife likes 'folically challenged' men....

    I'm her 'work in progress'...

    i keep telling my other 1/2 that i had a full head of hair before i met her

    for some reason she never believes me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego

    Quote All Peugeot owners live in Balwyn in Melbourne, and go down to the super-market every Saturday morning dressed in 1960's op-shop clothes. Peugeot station wagons are owned by Catholic families with 32 children and generally ernest expressions, who drive for Meals On Wheels.

    In Sydney they barrack for Norths, In Melbourne for Footscray. They also cherish the idea of driving their Peugeot around Australia, because this is what Peugeots are supposed to do. but this year they're going to Fiji instead.
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    Peugeot drivers in Balwyn are lucky to be under 70 years of age and drive above 20kph. They are all going to die soon and their snotty spoilt grandkids are going to buy Audis and BMWs.

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    I drive a peugeot, but I dont live in Balwyn!!

    Maybe theres a new category, for eg.

    My mates always bag me for driving a girly white hatch. I think it's my responsibilty to scare them *witless* (trying not to swear!) everytime i drive.

    anyway I found myself yesterday walking to my white french hatch, machiatto in hand, pink Polo shirt on, expensive jeans that look old, fudged hair (not balding) and soon arriving to my advertising job 25 minutes late!

    what category is that? I'm thinking it starts with *w and ends in r*

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmm...CORNERS
    what category is that? I'm thinking it starts with *w and ends in r*
    Um...winner?

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    Hey guys remember it is well over 20 years since the those opinions were published in the Australian Motoring Year book But like Alan I wonder what perceptions, opinions have changed since then.

    Like Balwyn once was the very upper/middle class house owners of staid Melbourne or as some said the wowser belt. the demographics do change in time, but how did the FCO's stereotypes change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego
    Hey guys remember it is well over 20 years since the those opinions were published in the Australian Motoring Year book But like Alan I wonder what perceptions, opinions have changed since then.

    Like Balwyn once was the very upper/middle class house owners of staid Melbourne or as some said the wowser belt. the demographics do change in time, but how did the FCO's stereotypes change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stone Free
    It doesn't matter how upper middle class you are, you still die.
    Yeah, but think of the great coffin you could afford to buy yourself....

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