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    Default Hello Oz!

    Hi, i'm in GB just now, but found your site from the pug one i use : www.306rallye.com as you can guess, i drive a 306 rallye and a 205 gti rally car


    Anyway, i work for GE overhauling their aircraft engines at one of their alleged top sites, so Qantas on opening their new overhaul shop near melbourne decided to raid my work for employees with a bit of experience. Being 22, and fed up with the west coast of scotland, i'm kinda interested in this offer, so a few questions please.

    Whats melbourne like to live in?
    Any information on moving to Oz or general reccomendations?
    How are Qantas as Employers - i assume they are good?
    Whats the average local salary?
    I take it a pug gti6 is an easy enough car to get a hold of (would fancy another)
    I hear house prices are much cheaper than here, any examples?

    Do you get Cider over there Not a beer man myself

    Cheers all!

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    Melbourne a few years back was voted the worlds most livable city, without any bias i can see the truth in that, it's safe, relativley cheap to live, easy & not too confusing transport, a excellent city to live in. Im sure some people can come up with some stats to prove what i am telling you.

    A gti-6 can be picked up from anything from 22k-16k (AUD).

    As for the other q's, i can answer them for you but im sure other will come up with more detailed answers so i'll leave that for them

    Hope that helps a bit

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    Bring your own Pug with you if you come here... they aren't as prevalent on our roads as on yours. And it helps make it worthwhile bringing all your stuff in one container.

    As to what places are like, a lot depends on what you want... Qantas, however, prefer to have their named spelled without a 'u'... as it stands for 'Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services'... just a little tip before you send in an embarrassing CV.

    You'll certainly find Melbourne very different to the west coast of Scotland...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Bell
    You'll certainly find Melbourne very different to the west coast of Scotland...
    Can you speak fluent Greek?
    Don't worry, you'll soon learn. They reckon there's more Greeks in Melbourne than Athens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woody
    Whats melbourne like to live in?
    cold miserable and rainy just like scotland ... no not really, but its the closest thing to it apart from living in canberra or hobart... winters can be cold in melbourne, summers can be rather warm, tropical weather... and some times just wether that's unpredictable, i.e it can rain,hail and shine in one day


    Quote Originally Posted by woody
    Any information on moving to Oz or general reccomendations?
    not really, but it must be fairly easy to move from great britain to australia, as i know a few people that have done it, and are now living ehre as permanent residents

    Quote Originally Posted by woody
    Whats the average local salary?
    i think you'll be expecting a pay cut... average i would say is about $30k to 60k $au give or take a few quid

    Quote Originally Posted by woody
    I take it a pug gti6 is an easy enough car to get a hold of (would fancy another)
    they are fairly easy to get your hands on over here, though we only got the later model GTI6's i.e none were sold previous to mid 1997


    Quote Originally Posted by woody
    Do you get Cider over there Not a beer man myself
    some of the best cider i've tasted in the world is Mercury, and comes from tasmania i beleive... strongbow is also good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan S
    Can you speak fluent Greek?
    Don't worry, you'll soon learn. They reckon there's more Greeks in Melbourne than Athens.

    Alan S
    Athens is the largest greek population in the world. Melbourne is the second largest greek population in one are following athen
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    Originally posted by Alan S
    Can you speak fluent Greek?
    Don't worry, you'll soon learn. They reckon there's more Greeks in Melbourne than Athens.
    And Italian, and Lebanese...

    It's a cosmopolitan city all right... and that weather jibe from orestes is pretty true. All seasons in one day on some summer days. But it doesn't snow. You have to go up the mountains for that... a three hour drive.

    I think my advice on the car is right, by the way. If you have a rust-free car of the model you want, bring it with you. In fact, you'd probably find some subsidies for your container if you ask around here when you finally get around to it.

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    Hi Guys,

    yeah Melbourne would be a good place to live (for a big city). Expect the temperature to hover around 30degrees C in summer (with days of 40+degrees). Winter is quite mild, usually 12-15degrees.

    There's quite a few GE offices out here, GE bought out the place I work for in Ballarat, so I now work for GE (except in GE Medical --as a computer programmer).

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    I would suggest you bring your Rallye with you as we didn't get the Euro spec Rallye out here. Mind you, could you wait 6 months for it to get here and clear customs??

    The Rallye we got was a poxy re-badged XT or something like that. Would be a very unique car to have!

    Melbourne is awesome. I've lived in England, Western Australia and been to many cities aroudn the world, but I can honestly say, nowhere have I felt more at home. It's just an easy place to live. You want somewhere to live? No dramas. You want transport? No dramas. The pay cut wouldn't be that much of a concern given the difference in living expences. (Hello, why I paid $A1200 a month ON MY OWN in rent in the UK in beyond me!)
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    Iím assuming you are a L.A.M.E? If so, and depending on your experience but guessing by your age you have < 5 years experience, you should be on 50-60K after taking into account night shift rates etc. I have a mate who is a senior L.A.M.E at Qantas in Sydney. If you PM me your email address, I will forward it onto him and Iím sure he can help you out with any questions you may have.

    Hey is your 306 rallye over there the stripped out gti6 version? In Oz the 306 rallye is not the same as the ones in the UK i.e the Oz ones are just dressed up standard models.

    If you bring it over here it certainly would be a very unique car.

    Melbourne is the second most expensive city (next to Sydney) for real estate in Australia. But renting a apartment there isn't too bad, depending on size and location should be around $250-$350/week for a decent one.
    Take the long way home....

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    Default Pound V AU Dollar value

    Woody

    For some reason the Pound equates to nearly Three Australian Dollars but only buys as much as we buy here for one Australian Dollar (rough rule of thumb)

    When I visited last year I noticed that you were getting a little more or slightly better value for each pound spent than my last visit. But your consumer goods are much higher cost than they should be.

    If you take a check of some prices you pay for say a Big Mac or a cup of premium coffee at coffex or one of the other US style coffee chains I'm sure that someone here will be able to give you a current price check.

    As you fuel prices are now per litre it is easy to do a current check over the internet "RACV fuelwatch au" for the high and low prices in Melbourne or mean average fuel price.

    If you check Aldi grocery prices these are also comparable as Aldi also have outlets in Melbourne.

    There are quite a lot of Scottish migrants in Melbourne and you have a fine choice of off the shelf cider and specialist cider producers in and around Melbourne and you can do your own bottling!

    Beaches are fine and leiusure and sport activities abound and cafes and restaurants are among the best and yet least expensive in Australia.

    One thing that I have always liked about Melbourne is that heatwave weather only seems to last a week at most (104 or 105 farenheit) and then a cool change sweeps in off the ocean dropping it 20 degree in 20 minutes) very liveable in the summer.

    Got a few too many pugs though in our "cosmopolitan" town, but we Renault people just have to grin and bear it!!

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    I moved from GB to SYD 2 years ago, and I expect to be here for a few years. Moving generally easy enough especially if a company helps with shipping etc., but it is hassle and paperwork. Any specific Qs send me a pm as it is too big a subject to cover.

    I really regret not bringing my 106. If your 306 is a good one then may be worth it but check out the import rules first as there is a lot of rules and regulations. Look for threads on this site about importing. I think for it to be a goer you must have owned it for a year before moving. You'll have to pay duty I think and as no 306 Rallyes sold here parts/insurance may be tricky.

    If you move be prepared for a lot less driving fun. Lower speed limits (the headline limits sound about the same but they put a lower limit on any interesting bit of road), you won't get the same 10% plus 2 'tolerance' for being a bit over as in the UK, and it's a ban for doing 130kph anywhere - even on a motorway. There's a real anti-speed culture here .... see the article in Evo a few months ago (May / June time I think?) when they drove a Monaro over here.

    Still it's a big country and lots of good things here too. Some people love it, some don't - personal preference. You can always move back.

    Rallying here mainly on dirt and gravel. Not sure what level you compete in but they don't have multi-use/single venue events here. A few rally links:
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    http://www.cams.com.au/

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    I'm fairly sure that import rules on pre-owned cars of migrants are much less restrictive...

    You can probably find information on the net about it. Guarantee that you'll regret not bringing the car if you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 106 Rallye
    I think and as no 306 Rallyes sold here parts/insurance may be tricky.
    i don't think it will be all that tricky. I run a 5 door 205, of which there were 0 sold in australia. the RACQ was prepared at the time i insured it to basically do it over the phone. Being 19, with basically no rating, i don't have full coverage, as that was a fair whack over $1000 for a car thats worth maybe $5000, but i do have coverage incase i hit somone (there car is coverd, not mine) or in case of somone hiting me (my car is coverd)
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    Indeed, I don't think insurance will be much of an issue...

    I heard of a man in Canberra who had a Triumph 2000 station wagon, of which... again... none were sold in Australia.

    He took it in to register it and was told that he'd need an engineer's certificate for a vehicle that was so substantially modified.

    When he showed that it was built that way ex-factory he got through no problems... but he didn't even have that question when he went for insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jastanis
    Iím assuming you are a L.A.M.E? If so, and depending on your experience but guessing by your age you have < 5 years experience, you should be on 50-60K after taking into account night shift rates etc. I have a mate who is a senior L.A.M.E at Qantas in Sydney. If you PM me your email address, I will forward it onto him and Iím sure he can help you out with any questions you may have.
    Jastanis,
    LAME's don't overhaul the engines. They repair them on the line and change them when they are broken.They then get send to be repaired. QF SYD overhauls them but they are moving the GE's down to MEL. SYD will continue to do the rollers (sorry, Rolls Royces). You need to talk to an AME who works in the engine maintenance facility in SYD. (EMF). I think 30-60k may be a better guess but I would have to ask.
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    Thanks for all the replies, and i've craftily edited Qantas above

    Currently I'm on approx aus$80 - 85K, but as you all say, the cost of living is a fair bit cheaper, although i stay with parents at the moment so rent etc... is not a big factor.

    As has been said, i'm not a L.A.M.E, its off-wing complete overhaul we do and i have 4 and a half years experience just now. I beleive two middle ranking personel have already left my work to help set up the new shop.

    TBH, i think i'd be leaving the 306 at home, its just had a small bit of damage to the front from an uninsured driver (away being fixed now) and i'm tempted by a clio cup in a few months if i stay at home, or a gti-6 with A/C in oz. My 306 rallye is of course the lightweight gti-6 euro version, i've seen the aussie 'rallye' before the 205 would be sold, and car aside i dont have enough stuff to warrant a container.

    good news about the though and the beaches and weather sound ideal , i'm a bit fair for the hotter parts of Oz

    Thanks again

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    Lots of us are...

    Keep us posted... especially if one of your old workmates helps you snag a job.

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