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    Well here is a neutral industry report of the great event:

    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/...ck-up-pictures.

    I know that brutality in design can grow on some, but the lines are somewhat confronting, should have had Citroen doing the design. IMHO!

    You sort of wonder about the drama of window breaking when a large ball bearing was flung at them. Was this an attempt to conjure up more publicity - I guess only Elon Musk can answer that, but I suspect that it could be a case of any media is useful and the Internet sites have run hot with speculation - but will it bring in sales, or we see one driven to the NSW ute event for a run in the mud and dust.

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    It is, as someone in ‘murica is known to remark, UGE!!!


    Not a fan of utes, but it seems to me this ticks more use-case boxes


    https://youtu.be/QMfxJEfb4lw

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    It's a question of being fit for purpose. If the design requires shatter proof glass and it shatters it's a design failure. There is an industry fitting cars with bullet proof glass ( less now than it was). So shatter proof glass is neither a new invention nor a difficult item to manufacture and indicates a company with design and quality problems. Personally, given the nature of the beast I wouldn't want a feature that makes it even more difficult to escape incineration after a crash.

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    That RIVIAN with the Renault like diamond is an amazing car! Fuggly stadium front lights right up there with American 'design' tastes.
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    Hmmn, no one jumping in to be the first Australian driving this car to the ute muster - deep pockets, design reluctance, and if you think about it the stainless steel exterior should resist the frolics that young ute drivers might subject it and the driver too as an initiation right of entry? Any mud should wash off easily.

    The organisers and Tesla would probably pay for a charging point in the outback even if it is a big generator driven by diesel, bet that would get in the news. A day of fame anyone.

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    Actually, I have two friends who have placed orders....as in signed up, paid $AUD150 deposit, and will now watch all sorts of other E/Vs emerge until the first Cybertruck gets here in 2022. Clearly, they have too much money and time on their hands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttimboc View Post
    Clearly, they have too much money and time on their hands!
    My way of looking at that is that I don't have enough money, not that I would buy that truck, my choice would be much more irresponsible vehicle

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    Pedestrian impact safety ignored.
    Wouldn't want to get hit by one at any speed.

    Progressive energy absorbing crumble zones and straight lines, flat panels and sharp edges, I wonder how that's going to work.

    Shattering glass: it would seem Very unlikely that they hadn't tried that before but they had practiced the acting school "surprised expression"

    If nothing else, its attracted a lot of comment.
    Perhaps he really is a master of promotion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttimboc View Post
    Actually, I have two friends who have placed orders....as in signed up, paid $AUD150 deposit, and will now watch all sorts of other E/Vs emerge until the first Cybertruck gets here in 2022. Clearly, they have too much money and time on their hands!
    More importantly what is their occupation and type of vehicle each uses as a daily driver at present? don't need personal details, just interested in the market penetration as there does appear to be some resistance to EV's in other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    More importantly what is their occupation and type of vehicle each uses as a daily driver at present? don't need personal details, just interested in the market penetration as there does appear to be some resistance to EV's in other countries.

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    Without saying too much, I can confirm their occupations do not involve, in any sense at all that I can discern, use that would require anything like a Cybertruck for more than 5 minutes in a year. So, they are potentially in the centre of the intended market demographic!
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    Icon13 Twas a simple question easily answered - but possibly a sock alert.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttimboc View Post
    Without saying too much, I can confirm their occupations do not involve, in any sense at all that I can discern, use that would require anything like a Cybertruck for more than 5 minutes in a year. So, they are potentially in the centre of the intended market demographic!
    Nice sidestep I suspect a sock - advocating/or damning EV and located at Canberra - are we to be inundated like the last thread with EV propaganda. was a simple question given the throw-aways in that closed thread, and the terminology is strangely familiar.

    Sad when many of us are interested in electric vehicles, the good the bad and the ugly but don't want the politics and propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC1701 View Post
    Progressive energy absorbing crumble zones and straight lines, flat panels and sharp edges, I wonder how that's going to work.

    No worries at all, they subcontracted the design of the crumble zones to Nestle who used a type of honeycomb construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    Nice sidestep I suspect a sock - advocating/or damning EV and located at Canberra - are we to be inundated like the last thread with EV propaganda. was a simple question given the throw-aways in that closed thread, and the terminology is strangely familiar.

    Sad when many of us are interested in electric vehicles, the good the bad and the ugly but don't want the politics and propaganda.

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    Crikey, Ken — don’t ever lose that paranoia — they really are out to get you!!

    I’m sorry if my response was read as containing subtle political messages — certainly unintended by me, just adding a little levity to the discussion. But I’m guessing you will read what you wish into this, too.

    FWIW, one is a specialist medical practitioner, the other a consultant — both strongly inner city-bound, in case that wasn’t clear.

    I like EVs, but based on a use case and price. It seems to me the first maker to crack the Euro quality mid 5dr hatch, with c.600km range and c.$40k price will nail the Australian market
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    Icon10 experience is a great learner, better to ask than accuse. I asked.

    As I said Sadly....and we have been done over before many times by new members who are not what they profess to be, and get a bit huffy too. Perhaps better to answer a very simple question, than accuse others of having some form of paranoia

    We have been down that track a few times before.

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    Impressed that you can build a car nowadays without employing stylists. Straight edges, no curves, reminiscent of an armoured car built of plate steel.
    I have been following the experiences of an Austrian Tesla owner and I see an effective technique has been developed for coping with fires. A solid steel box to seal the Tesla in for some days so it can ignite and burn at will. Then all you need is a secure yard to park it in because no recycler will touch it.
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    While plowing through automotive sites, there was a warning about speculators among the would be purchasers, apparently there has been a scheme promoted among stock analysts and financial advisers on the possibility of making money by putting down deposits for the latest Tesla product in the near certain (in their opinion) of creating an opportunity for monetary gain if there is a production shortfall and lots of speculative hype in a late rush, the $100 options can be sold on at a substantial profit.

    Maybe the $100 low price for such orders was based upon inviting this speculation with no real intention of buying the vehicle in the hope of creating some sort of artificial appearance that Musk can also sell to his eager paid up promotional media but really an artificial market expectation for profiteers.

    Not my field of expertise, can anyone explain the process, simply looked at it has the odour of a contrived scam to boost the appearance of eager market forces but driven by a pure greed motive manipulated by an insider trading influence exploiting knowledge for gain.

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    With the X and 3 models, there has been a strong market in deposit trades. However, this has mainly occurred to obtain a place, or an earlier place, in the queue. Like all such trades, the price you’ll pay for this is based on how much you value the opportunity. I’m unaware of any overnight millionaires via such trades, or that there is an “insider trade” basis to them — notoriously hard to prove in any case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttimboc View Post
    With the X and 3 models, there has been a strong market in deposit trades. However, this has mainly occurred to obtain a place, or an earlier place, in the queue. Like all such trades, the price you’ll pay for this is based on how much you value the opportunity. I’m unaware of any overnight millionaires via such trades, or that there is an “insider trade” basis to them — notoriously hard to prove in any case.
    Typical of an insider trader response, doesn't make it right ethically or morally just o.k. if you can get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    Typical of an insider trader response, doesn't make it right ethically or morally just o.k. if you can get away with it.
    Geez, Ken...do you have chips on both shoulders?

    I wasn’t making any comment on insider trading other than observing it is not being reported anywhere. What you’re saying is that dirty deeds are being done with absolutely no evidence to support.

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    Used to happen after the war when there were waiting lists for cars. Speculators would put down deposits, usually 50 pounds, on popular models and before the car was due for delivery advertise the vehicle at a higher price. They were known as sharpshooters in the trade. It was so bad with scarce American cars that dealers made buyers sign a contract not to resell for two years. When a buyer resold a Pontiac for twice the purchase price York took the seller to court and the contract was upheld. The seller had to refund the profit to York who donated it to Legacy.

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    You can order and pay a deposit for two of the Chinese EV models due here early next year https://thedriven.io/2019/10/29/new-...in-early-2020/
    Porshe has taken deposits for 30,000 Taycan EVs https://www.autoblog.com/2019/07/30/...tion-deposits/

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