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    Default Time for a new car ...

    Not really knowledgeable about modern cars. heaps of Peugeot 403, 404, 504 experience ...
    AU11 Forte LPG Sedan 300,000kms, now has water in oil, must go!
    Time for a change and have a sentimental desire to own a french vehicle again.
    Approximately $10k to spend.
    4 cylinder ok these day, petrol or diesel? Live in smallish rural town, 160kms trips to Adelaide, maybe cruise the country for a month or three, camping holidays, ocassional dirt road travel, hatch? ...
    Need some luxury these day; auto, cruise etc ...
    Concerned by ongoing references to scheduled servicing, cam belts, ongoing costs etc?

    What car should I buy froggers?
    thanks in advance ...

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    Can you do your own servicing and repairs?
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    Mitsubishi Magna ?

    Start Low $3k, bullet proof engine, sadly a V6, parts available at milk bar and cheap...

    Check for oil sludge and timing chain noise at low revs (one of the same symptoms)-run as far as you can.

    You may find a wagon. Finding one on LPG would be a bonus and reduce fuel costs.

    How wedded are you to 4 cyl ?
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    For the money you can get an early 2008-> Citroen C5 X7, diesel, 6 speed Jap auto, without ridiculous mileage on it. Fills your spec nicely. They do have a cam belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasink View Post
    For the money you can get an early 2008-> Citroen C5 X7, diesel, 6 speed Jap auto, without ridiculous mileage on it. Fills your spec nicely. They do have a cam belt.
    Yes, I like the C5 X7 much better than a Magna.

    But the cost repairs and specialist knowledge to fix, if you are unlucky enough to have something go pear shaped would concern me.

    Do you have a Citroen repairer, either dealer or independent near by ?

    Edit: most C5 X7 ,up to $10k seem to be in 101k -150k range.
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    I would suggest a Renault Laguna iii.

    Would stay away from PSA products, you just have to look on here to see all the problems they have
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    Don't all auto Laguna have the Al4 ?

    And I'd suggest a manual would rare as rocking horse poop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Don't all auto Laguna have the Al4 ?

    And I'd suggest a manual would rare as rocking horse poop.
    Mine is a Laguna ii and it has a Aisin Warner AW55 auto in it.
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    Thanks, you have answered my question.

    Note for Edgedweller -don't buy any vehicle with AL4 or DPO transmission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Thanks, you have answered my question.

    Note for Edgedweller -don't buy any vehicle with AL4 or DPO transmission.
    Maybe I should qualify my answer.

    My Laguna is a V6 and the 4 cylinder Laguna may have the DPO box in it, but don't quote me on that.

    I also 2nd that, beware of the DPO/AL4 auto boxes
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    Wish you good luck on your search Edge, keep us posted on the result. A good Laguna lll with the aisin warner box should be comfortable for long distance travel and if you could get a diesel that should mean more economical travel...

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    Seriously, I'd resist French tendencies & look elsewhere.

    Looking at your brief, I suggest a Forester (2.5 petrol 4). This was my replacement vehicle for the couple of used Virage wagons which my wife drove over a period of 20 odd years & finally got sick of (I didn't). First one was a 2005 manual bought new & only replaced when she needed an auto (tender left foot). That first one went to a daughter who still has it & was replaced by a 2006 used auto (which we still have).

    Excellent reliability reputation & the only thing I'd mention is being anal about coolant & the occasional full chemical flush of the system & realise that a replacement radiator will be advised around 300 k when the plastic tanks go brittle.

    Good touring & dirt road car &, with judicious tyre choice (RE003 currently in my case on each - highly recommended), can be an entertaining drive when one feels like a fang.

    You should be able to duplicate my wife's car for somewhere under your figure by watching the Adelaide ads for a few weeks.

    cheers! Peter
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    I've got a turbo diesel renault megane sport going on the market soon. If that's of any interest. Very low kms bullet proof drive line. Although it's a 6 speed manual. Hell of a fun car though! Very good on fuel and no cam belt!Time for a new car ...-1533386401798.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4cvg View Post
    Seriously, I'd resist French tendencies & look elsewhere.

    Looking at your brief, I suggest a Forester (2.5 petrol 4). This was my replacement vehicle for the couple of used Virage wagons which my wife drove over a period of 20 odd years & finally got sick of (I didn't). First one was a 2005 manual bought new & only replaced when she needed an auto (tender left foot). That first one went to a daughter who still has it & was replaced by a 2006 used auto (which we still have).

    Excellent reliability reputation & the only thing I'd mention is being anal about coolant & the occasional full chemical flush of the system & realise that a replacement radiator will be advised around 300 k when the plastic tanks go brittle.

    Good touring & dirt road car &, with judicious tyre choice (RE003 currently in my case on each - highly recommended), can be an entertaining drive when one feels like a fang.

    You should be able to duplicate my wife's car for somewhere under your figure by watching the Adelaide ads for a few weeks.

    cheers! Peter
    I wouldn't be to hasty to buy one of these things as several people I know have lost engines in these things, although Peter has had a good run out of his Subaru's.

    A quick Google comes up with some of the problems.
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    Edgedweller, In my humble opinion, these days Japanese and Korean cars are outperforming French cars, especially in reliability.

    I still have my trusty old 505 but it's one of the very few left in Brisbane, perhaps Queensland. I had owned a 2000 model Mitsubishi Magna but they are not as bulletproof as some people think.

    I asked around and the advice I got about what to replace it with (it was a station wagon) was a VY Commodore. Not any other model....just a VY. Many have high Ks these days but I got a pristine, very well looked-after one with 145,000 Ks. And it does not have an East-West engine like the Magna does. The engine bay is simple and roomy like a 504, but bigger. It drives beautifully, feels very solid and I really enjoy driving it (a few years ago I would not have believed I would be saying this ! ). And every Tom, Dick and Harry knows how to fix them. They have no cam belt either....a big plus. And the serpentine belt in front is easy to change.

    I'm not saying you should get a Commodore. You seem to have a decent budget. What I'm saying is that the game has changed. Other makes than French are very safe and well-made.

    Plus you need to take into account the availability and price of parts, both secondhand and new.
    With a French car you may well break down somewhere in outback S.A. and have a real pain getting parts sent to you, whereas with something more popular they will be more readily available, with a supply chain established.

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    Laguna 3 is a Jatco transmission - essentially a Nissan gearbox. It is a conventional 6 speed torque converter unit.

    The engine is also shared with many Nissan products - a 2 litre turbo chain driven all alloy unit. Nice drivetrain, Japanese reliable.

    No idea about the shitty diesel version though.
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    haha, thank you.
    drove Magnas (4&6) for about 7 of my 10 year taxi driving stint, very nice to drive, never had a problem, they were both Mitsubishi sponsored test cars so not surprised.
    Subaru is my intelligent choice. 4cvg
    You can't trust sentimentality ...
    Has to be auto, peripheral neuropathy is not a particularly useful ailment, hence now living in one bedroom unit and with no option to do own servicing, bah humbug ...
    Certainly concerned by what I read here of mechanical problems and cost of parts with modern french vehicles, hence my question.

    Been driving the falcon on Barr's Leaks since I've had it, 3 years and only 50K KMS, all the dealer said was "you should drive on petrol, that LPG stuff is too dangerous" yeah, thanks pal ... became obvious that head gasket leak was likely the reason it was traded, 6 months ago went the $75 Nulon super treatment, but now but now; Easy Permanent Head Gasket Repair, $100, seems to be the next step to keep it on the road until I can finalize https://www.realestate.com.au/proper...getown-7940106 land sale and be able to look around for the replacement.

    With a bit of money in my pocket, looking for a new car seem an enjoyable short hobby, caveat emptor

    Got to tell you, switching from 21 acres of paradise to one bedroom wears the psyche out some, fear not, I am resilient.

    Agree with you Beano on Japanese and Korean but Commonbores to big, use to much fuel, prices are good though ... Hyundai i40 anyone?, I know, but i30's seem a tad small ... parts for french cars in the outback? bugga ...

    Yeah Rob, fuel consumption is a intellectual issue for me, a lifetime of tuned 4 cylinder cars and then LPG just raises the issue for me on an emotional level, climate change etc blah blah blah ... considering my likely low ongoing mileage these days it's not really much of an issue.

    Just to say, maintaining my own vehicles over the years has been an enjoyable and cost effective way of getting around.

    so Citroen c5, Laguna 111 and Renault Megane (original option) seem to be in the running, until I drop the sentimentality, will keep you posted as Ken suggests

    Subaru do seem promising ...

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    From someone who had years of Subaru - they aren't bulletproof unless maintained very well.

    Correct oil changes are a particular necessity. There are several things that can happen from wrong oil/delayed changes, but one common one is clogging up the hydraulic tappets.

    They have a timing belt. Older engines were non-interference, but the engines most likely to be seen now are interference type.
    CVT transmissions are an acquired taste, to put it simply.

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    To be realistic, the is no such thing as the perfect, everlasting car.

    So the path Edge is taking and soliciting opinions totally makes sense.

    Any choice be it French, Japanese or Australian cars the reliabily will depend to a large degree on the previous maintenance regime.

    So a car with a verifiable service history would be a decided advantage. And some interpretation of the current condition can help to either support or refute the accuracy of the service history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beano View Post
    Edgedweller, In my humble opinion, these days Japanese and Korean cars are outperforming French cars, especially in reliability.
    Why has no one suggested a koleos??

    You get Korean, Jap and French all rolled into one.
    I suppose the choice should really come down to the type of car the person servicing it knows a little about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgedweller View Post
    heaps of Peugeot 403, 404, 504 experience ...
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    I reckon stay with these... you know them, they’re tough and well proven and get the job done with character and finesse. Should be able to get a nice one for 10k, even a 203, very cool and something to enjoy and be proud of.

    The moderns are all made with throwaway in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jo proffi View Post
    Why has no one suggested a koleos??

    You get Korean, Jap and French all rolled into one.
    I suppose the choice should really come down to the type of car the person servicing it knows a little about.

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    Less than $10k ?

    Currently only one Koleos on Carsales,under $10k, is $7k for a 2009 model with 180,000 k, only thing going for it is the full service history.

    Over a 100,000 k is just a few too many kms IMO. Japanese or otherwise.

    I'd be looking for a car with less than 100,0000 K, personally.
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    There are excellent if you're going for a value equation thats cheap and easy to fix anywhere. The wagon variants mean it would also be a good travelling car.

    I got my Mum one of these and I was extremely impressed with it. Excellent handling (built for European market), very robust (suspension parts and the like heavily built) and just generally decent.

    Older engine design, built like a tank. Solid tappets not the last work in refinement. Timing belt, but only a single pulley (small chain on the other end of the exhaust cam drives the inlet cam) and the water pump doesn't run off the timing belt.

    Cheap and robust and relatively simple car.

    SLX model gets the side airbags. Early cars had valve body issues in the transmission which will have been sorted by now, and there is a common fault with a $7 rubber bush in the electric steering that makes a knocking noise (took me a couple of hours to fit).

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    I feel for anyone asking for opinions on used or new car purchases in a French Car Forum. It must be like visiting fifty car yards in a row and getting all that professional good advice you just know you are going to get on anything BUT French cars......
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    Or if you can stretch the budget a smidge, the GD series is also excellent. The 2 door and the wagon variants are built in the Czech Republic and have the multilink rear end and the 1.6 direct injection engine. The 5 door hatch is Korean built with a port injection 1.8 and a simple rear beam. They're all good.

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