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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Yeah, I dont know what size the Honda is. I do know it always starts first time every time, runs a scary big cutting disc for destroying coffee bush and is utterly reliable. And the nerd in me loves that its an OHC with an oil lubricated timing belt!
    Remember when people were rude about "cheap Japanese" and "they are all copies, nothing original"? Among many others, Honda scotched that notion pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I just bought a honda one. Its ok. But far heavier. The equivlant sized engine 2strokes are far more powerful ... (they have a power stroke every 2 cycles ... not every four cycles .... so it's a no brainer). You just get a 4stroke that has a much higher capacity engine.

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    Ford F-150 diesel - 36(imp) mpg highway consumption -
    https://www.greencarreports.com/news...w-f-150-diesel


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    The worldwide push for PULP to become standard -
    http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...as-new-regular


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    The worldwide push for PULP to become standard -
    Auto industry lobbies for 95 octane as new regular


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    That is the biggest load of bullshit I've read in a longtime. They taint the fuel over there with ethanol. So there "95" will just have ethanol in it ............ er, but what does ethanol do to fuel economy again .... Can anyone remind me

    Next point is ... If I fill my car with stupidly expensive high octane fuel.... then park it in the shed for 2 weeks before I drive it ... how much of the "high octane goodness" has already boiled off .............................

    Like everything, follow the money .... you will probably find the ethanol industry is behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    That is the biggest load of bullshit I've read in a longtime. They taint the fuel over there with ethanol. So there "95" will just have ethanol in it ............ er, but what does ethanol do to fuel economy again .... Can anyone remind me

    Next point is ... If I fill my car with stupidly expensive high octane fuel.... then park it in the shed for 2 weeks before I drive it ... how much of the "high octane goodness" has already boiled off .............................

    Like everything, follow the money .... you will probably find the ethanol industry is behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Sorry if my actual economy on it upsets you Shane.


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    Um ... what does your economy have to do with trying to enforce that sales of only 95 fuel
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    Um ... what does your economy have to do with trying to enforce that sales of only 95 fuel
    You asked ďwhat it (ethanol) does to fuel economy .....againĒ.
    No difference at all after more than 9000 kms actually. Why pay sooo much more ?.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    You asked “what it (ethanol) does to fuel economy .....again”.
    No difference at all after more than 9000 kms actually. Why pay sooo much more ?.


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    Oh... it's like using LPG ... the calorific content is less. So you use more to get the same power ... The hotrod guys like the high ethonal fuel so they can run higher boost levels are more aggressive timing ...................................... You also use "slightly" more fuel too

    I haven't really noticed my shitty old range rover uses more LPG than petrol either .... but i'm sure it does (oneday I'll check.... I'm too bloody scared to find out though. Its always "lots" under all circumstances).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
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    Oh... it's like using LPG ... the calorific content is less. So you use more to get the same power ... The hotrod guys like the high ethonal fuel so they can run higher boost levels are more aggressive timing ...................................... You also use "slightly" more fuel too

    I haven't really noticed my shitty old range rover uses more LPG than petrol either .... but i'm sure it does (oneday I'll check.... I'm too bloody scared to find out though. Its always "lots" under all circumstances).
    I donít think thereís any point going on ....


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    LPG has a higher caloric value. Itís only the poor efficiency of strap on conversions and an engine not optimised for it that makes the economy worse.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    You asked “what it (ethanol) does to fuel economy .....again”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    LPG has a higher caloric value. It’s only the poor efficiency of strap on conversions and an engine not optimised for it that makes the economy worse.


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    I think you have that backwards. LPG and enthonal have great anti-knock properties (ie: RON number .... lpg is HUGE). I think I'm using the wrong term, the fuel isn't as dense ... so you need more of it to make the same power.

    https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fu...ison_chart.pdf

    So with ethanol and lpg you need to burn more to generate the same power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Pm2.5 where? In the general world, in total, or just that concentrated in areas you spend a lot of time (ie roads and surrounds). Itís also about dosage, not just what it out there in general.

    Epidemiological work has been done for years correlating cancer rates and arterial roads.


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    I think you are missing the point. It seems clear that diesel cars account for only a small part of these particles. Something around 5-15%. If alarmists manage to kill diesel cars on the basis of health risks, that will unfounded.

    If you are now saying the problem is confined to arterial roads, then the answer is simple. Don't live next to arterial roads if these tiny extra risks bother you. Even there, diesel cars are only a part of percentage of the problem. So it looks like demonising diesel cars as making some big difference to anything is quite a beat up.

    I had a look at this idea about cancer and main roads, and the truth is that in urban areas, even living next to a main road makes only a slight difference to lung cancer rates.

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    Since this post is about fuel what about Sister Mary...

    She was truly a religious woman. Besides for her duties as a nun, she was also very active in various hospitals visiting sick patients and taking care of all their needs. So it was no surprise that one day when she ran out of gas. The only container she could find to put the gas into was a bedpan. Sister Mary happily walked two blocks to the closest gas station filled up the bedpan with gas and headed back to her car. Luck would have it that as Sister Mary started tipping the gas into the fuel tank, the traffic light turned red and she had quite a large audience witnessing the spectacle. Just when she finished pouring in the last drops of gas a fellow opened up his window and hollered, “I swear! If that car starts I’m becoming a religious man!”

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    5-15 % is not a small amount...


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    Dust is deadly - period.
    Silica ......note the small stretches of bitumen associated with a house near unsealed backroads.
    Asbestos
    Coal dust etc etc
    The cabin filter is there for a reason other than hay fever sufferers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    Whats that saying about arseholes...?
    Everybody has one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    Everybody has one?
    For sure and some work better and more regularly than others.
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    For sure some produce a lot of sh**, whilst others don't have one that works and retain it......
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    Especially the ones who don't support our own beliefs
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    JoBo, that can also be called "a difference of opinion".... Which can result in an argument:
    Remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haakon View Post
    5-15 % is not a small amount...


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    I suppose that is depends on how you see it, but personally I think 10 to 15% is a small amount of the whole amount. Plus it is a small amount of something which is only one of a number of causes of one type of illness, albeit a serious one. Possibly quite a small contributor, but I didn't really find anything on that point. Ideally, noone gets cancer, but that small amount of a small amount does mean that you can't point the finger at diesel cars as being a big problem in teh world. Certainly nowhere near enough to run around trying to run them off the road when they do have their advantages. That's my opinion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Dust is deadly - period.
    Silica ......note the small stretches of bitumen associated with a house near unsealed backroads.
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    I had never thought of it like that. I had always assumed it was just to stop the annoyance of houses being surrounded by a cloud of dust every time someone drove past. Do you really think it is for health reasons? Not saying it isn't, just that I never considered it.

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    Ethanol provides more oxygen which is the key to making more power, easy to tip a bit more fuel in, so more power yes, but worse economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleChevron View Post
    I think you have that backwards. LPG and enthonal have great anti-knock properties (ie: RON number .... lpg is HUGE). I think I'm using the wrong term, the fuel isn't as dense ... so you need more of it to make the same power.

    https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fu...ison_chart.pdf

    So with ethanol and lpg you need to burn more to generate the same power.

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