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    All the more reason the get a psa car then apart from a ion put who really wants one of them autoliv has always been reliable less a few connection issues which were probably more installation then the connection itself

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    My 2CV only has one airbag - me! Its been my daily driver since 1995, so far so good.

    Statistically in the UK and Finland, they were amongst the safest cars on a deaths per vehicle scale. Not because they are safe in a accident, but rather because one has to actually drive the bloody thing, 100% of the time. I can't even hear the mobile ringing, but I can feel the vibrations in my top left hand shirt pocket. Its either an incoming call or an outgoing heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    Air bags have been a blessing in road safety, preventing many injuries and so a very good marketing ploy that has been effective in influencing parents to the extent that they would rather financially support their children buying "modern air bag protected cars" as a first choice rather than the traditional, hand me down old car or pre airbag model as their first car. I know that as one of my neighbours children wanted to acquire a Fuego because he liked my cars timeless classic lines and appearance, however his parents talked him out of that notion and encouraged him towards a b rand new air bag protected vehicle as a safer option for their loved offspring.

    Those same concerned and safety conscious parents are now facing their own decision with faulty air bag cars, do they drive and take the risk or cut that risk by looking to finance a new car that is not under a cloud due to possible faulty airbags and the however unlikely risk of fatal or serious injury if they opted to continue driving. I was listening to Peta Credlin on her program where she told how she had contacted all her relatives and friends urging them to not take any risk, to take their cars immediately off the road and don't allow them to be used, and I predict that this will be seen as the best most protective decision that one can make.

    There is a big marketing opportunity for new car makers of cars not effected by the recall or confident of the safety product to step in and make special deals to soak up this new "nervous owner" market as many will be looking for a quick way to minimize their personal risk, or the risk to people they care for in their families. Cost and convenience, a good deal and guarantees of extended warranty replacement, will be the driving force that will eliminate the problem facing the motor industry.

    Some will win and some will lose, but basically it is the average buyer that will drive the change, what then needs to happen is the government to step in to subsidize the scrapping of any cars that are not fixed, and owners will be demanding this to help mitigate the cost of their safety decision to cease using the car and as a common sense initiative to scrap the problem and working with the remainder of the motoring industry in Australia.

    I expect most manufacturers will protect themselves from huge compensation claims, but in the end only a few owners will sue for compensation, though there may be a series of group style claims as to the selling of a defective product, albeit by another part maker who has since protectively gone out of business.

    many owners will simply walk away from marques they have supported in years gone by and write any loss of money in the process to their need for safety and a write off under terms of learning and their own experience. my for what it is worth!

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    Hi. I think the compulsory recall from last month was not because manufacturers weren't doing there bit, but because owners won't pull there fingers out and taking the cars in. Looks to me like some of the recall has been made compulsory, but part of it is still voluntary, and a lot of the cars the gov added to the list is added to the voluntary list. It wsa interesting to read the comments above about car company's replacing with the same airbag because 'safe' one's aren't available, and knowing they will just have to be replaced at a later date. That makes sense, but it is surprising the companies didn't make that clear to the car owners at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1972Ren View Post
    It wsa interesting to read the comments above about car company's replacing with the same airbag because 'safe' one's aren't available, and knowing they will just have to be replaced at a later date. That makes sense, but it is surprising the companies didn't make that clear to the car owners at the time.

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    Well, the car companies would like to think most of the cars would be scrapped before the replacement airbag would need to be replaced again. So the problem largely goes away and the few cars that are still around probably changed hands several times so the eventual owner probably doesn't even know the airbag is due to be replaced again.
    Problem solved for the car companies.
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    Hi.
    My wife's sister has a Subaru Liberty which was bought used from a dealer, but Subaru managed to find her to send a recall letter. So they must be using lists which come from State registration databases. Which would make sense when it has been made mandatory by law.

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    Let the VIN be your friend.


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    Dealerships are suffering from under compensation -
    https://premium.goauto.com.au/hidden...l-take-a-toll/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Dealerships are suffering from under compensation -
    https://premium.goauto.com.au/hidden...l-take-a-toll/


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    ACCC demands airbag replacement work over profitable servicing -
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    Icon13 Heading to hell on a green handbasket...don't bother with air bags you wont need em

    Listened to Di Natale of the Greens and their plan to get rid of all petrol cars so that all new cars are electric battery operated stuff,maybe the last takata air bag will be replaced just before they are greened out of existence, or people start hitching up horses to pull them along.

    The country is on a slippery slope I think, I was thinking of the Bullshit bingo game when you cheer and win every time a key word is repeated. today it was the I am an intellectual self labelling "progressive" buzz word that was repeated throughout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    Listened to Di Natale of the Greens and their plan to get rid of all petrol cars so that all new cars are electric battery operated stuff,maybe the last takata air bag will be replaced just before they are greened out of existence, or people start hitching up horses to pull them along.

    The country is on a slippery slope I think, I was thinking of the Bullshit bingo game when you cheer and win every time a key word is repeated. today it was the I am an intellectual self labelling "progressive" buzz word that was repeated throughout.

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    I rather fancy it won't matter whether your car is powered by petrol, electricity or vintage green cheese, the fact is it will still have air-bags. And I foresee even more than we have today. There will be air-bags to protect your drinks in your drink holders, to protect your luggage and stuff on your roof racks. Then there are the trailer caravan and boat air-bags....it will be big business..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenfuego View Post
    Listened to Di Natale of the Greens and their plan to get rid of all petrol cars so that all new cars are electric battery operated stuff,maybe the last takata air bag will be replaced just before they are greened out of existence, or people start hitching up horses to pull them along.

    The country is on a slippery slope I think, I was thinking of the Bullshit bingo game when you cheer and win every time a key word is repeated. today it was the I am an intellectual self labelling "progressive" buzz word that was repeated throughout.

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    It’s a bit like the word ‘thug’ which one particular media proprietor can’t seem to get over.
    Reminds me of the ‘dole bludger’ era of deep thinking.........err no!


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    Icon13 No petrol demonization..scary..

    Quote Originally Posted by dmccurtayne View Post
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    Not if a certain Green element gets control or defacto control, they will have them blown up, deconstructed, or you might have to convert them to "electric" vehicles IF you can struggle your way through the nanny state style over regulated bureaucracy that discourage such activities these days....

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    Ken, you may have forgotten that France has already announced plans to ban all vehicles other than electric from the year 2030. The home of frog cars FFS! And not one of our greenies in their parliament.....

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKBN1CH0SI
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    Icon13 France is in it up to its neck...political intrigue that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    Ken, you may have forgotten that France has already announced plans to ban all vehicles other than electric from the year 3030. The home of frog cars FFS! And not one of our greenies in their parliament.....

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKBN1CH0SI
    Yep a worldwide disease, predicated on the notion that scary climate predictions based on faulty science and failed modelling rather that actual fact and a good hard look at the actual unmolested data, all spun to create an urgent need to

    (a) increase taxes, push huge investment opportunities for speculators (Your capitalist enemies kim)

    (b) junk a whole decade or so of vehicles and create a beancounters political path to a new industrial revolution that will ultimately be paid for by the mums and dads of the world that can ill afford the expense, and strangely the ones that vote for these governments, but treated as gullible pawns these days and fed propaganda to make sure they don't observe for themselves or go looking for truth FFS! to use your adjective...

    One day some will question and wonder how this spin fooled so many so easily. IMHO

    But you have to look to find truth and then check it rigorously.

    Plenty of sand to bury heads in sadly instead of taking time to check and observe.

    It is what it is and I alone can't change that. Everyone else has their own choice, and the right to say I told you so if any of us is proven in time to be wrong in our perceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim Luck View Post
    Ken, you may have forgotten that France has already announced plans to ban all vehicles other than electric from the year 2030. The home of frog cars FFS! And not one of our greenies in their parliament.....

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-f...-idUSKBN1CH0SI
    However they are not adopting the American idea of electric chairs. Seems the guillotine is green enough.

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    If it helps anyone, the full VIN list of 3,292 affected cars is now up for Citroen C4/DS ...

    https://www.productsafety.gov.au/rec...s4-citro-n-ds5

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