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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    E10/95 115.9 in Carlton on FuelSpy.
    Iím not sure that the surrounding outlets want it know though.


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    Good to see some element of competition in that, should be more of it, and that was a criticism from the ACCC on the independents pricing, that the independents were not countering the highest price cycles with lowered prices, and also at the time one of my local observations that there was no impact marketing by the independents during some of the more rapid price hikes at the time as motorists would turn to them in droves immediately prices went up by those massive 20 cent per litre hikes we often had.

    I know I would have been "much pissed off" last Friday if I had purchased my RON 98 fuel for the Laguna at the Shell Outlet on Ogilvie Avenue Echuca at 164.9 cents a litre pump price and then found I could buy the same RON 98 fuel at another major, (BP) near home for 140.9 cents a litre a whole 24 cents a litre lower than the Echuca price!

    However there will be motorist's that did buy at that price, elsewhere in the state and there is no rhyme or reason for such blatant rip off pricing when others can sell at lower prices. Unfortunately many motorists have to buy at those prices, they can't practically avoid it, unless they can pass on the price hikes by jacking up their own pricing structure to compensate, (ordinary non business related motorists can't do that of course) I'd like to see politicians look again at price control with fuel as an essential commodity.

    I don't think we will ever get back to those heady days when a two penny rise per imperial gallon was finally authorised by the prices Regulatory body as justifiable in the circumstances! I still have a newspaper cutting somewhere about that event.. Probably there is a reference on the National Library of Australia NLA Trove the now digitized newspaper reports of the day!

    Motorists in those days had a solid motorists vote to sway politicians. Spin Doctors and naysayers have weakened that united resolve and as a result, today motorists are seen as an evil "cash cow" to be milked for easy funding at all levels of so called "government"!

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    A tanker load determines when a price adjustment for that particular retailer takes place I imagine.
    They canít all get their new supply concurrently.
    Iím not sure there is any poultice to be made out of fuel retailing, particularly with the indies like United, Metro et al around.
    Financial speculators who specialise I would think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    E10/95 115.9 in Carlton on FuelSpy.
    Iím not sure that the surrounding outlets want it know though.


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    That is seriously cheap for 95 at the moment - fill it up !!!

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    In Melbourne all the others have jumped again......not the indies though/yet.


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    Icon4 Independents up as well it seems, I'd like to see some low price market activity

    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    In Melbourne all the others have jumped again......not the indies though/yet.


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    Sadly the independents like United seem to have a new more expensive delivery today also, justifying them to up the prices E10 ULP to 143.9, ULP without E10 147.7, Diesel 129.9, and LPG 64.7 (good LPG price) On the pumps I checked while I was out filling up the Megane my good lady forgot to fill The Laguna is still o.k. on its last 98 fill Friday.

    Fortunately I found one of those confounded shopper dockets and that bought the Caltex/Woolworths Diesel down to 127.9 a litre so I guess that protected the wallet. a check of the other pump prices at Caltex/|Woolworths ULP 149.9,, 95 RON 161.9 and 98 RON 167.9 (better to get the 98 at that price !IF! you have too) Diesel 131.9 and LPG 69.9 (small mercies in that for LPG user given that it has been sky high for a while now!)

    I wonder when they landed that dearer fuel they were selling or did they just have a sniff that the replacement fuel would be dearer sometime in the future.

    N5GTi6 Good prediction, on the trends, I hope that Sydney, prices are on the way down now, though they don't seem to reduce as quickly as they go up, sadly.. Money to be made in that of course.

    Thanks for checking on your app too.

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    Brisbane jumped around 20 cents in the last couple of days.
    With Easter about a month away don't expect any relief in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REN TIN TIN View Post
    Brisbane jumped around 20 cents in the last couple of days.
    With Easter about a month away don't expect any relief in the near future.
    Not true - just follow the cycle and you'll see it come down again. Use the tech ! It's really not that hard.

    At the moment Brisbane and Melbourne cycles pretty much match up.

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    Common sub 130 for E10/95 which is 30+ savings
    30 off at any other time for any other fuel would have massive traffic disruptions.
    Odd!


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    Icon14 Checking the checkers. worth a look.

    Quote Originally Posted by N5GTi6 View Post
    Not true - just follow the cycle and you'll see it come down again. Use the tech ! It's really not that hard.

    At the moment Brisbane and Melbourne cycles pretty much match up.

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    Thanks Justin, but I have noted in the past that a closer check of the levels between products, is mostly where the profit manipulation devils dance!

    ULP or 91 RON is fast becoming a redundant benchmark as it only represents a very small portion of actual sales - useful for some industry sources to quote as a benchmark when it is not these days. Not the fuel that most motorists use. it will be useful for members to observe this oil industry induced cycle, will it be short in duration and then have a massive kick up in prices before the Easter break? or be an excuse for a long climb and very slow reduction after Easter, both have been done in the past.

    Good to have consumer eyes looking out for this.

    Informed motorists can be just as good as "informed sources" as consumers closely watch the prices IMHO!

    Thanks for contributing to the observations.

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    United Kialla/Shepparton didnít budge and still 122.7 for E10/95


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    Bendigo is still cheap


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    Melbourne petrol price cycles just heading back up again now - hope everyone has filled up !

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    Someone was asking about the whereabouts of Kenfuego. Surely THIS topic will bring him out of hiding?

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    It's Easter, (and school holidays in QLD) of course the petrol prices are going to go up.
    I'll say about, 20cents/ltr compared to 2 weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IWS View Post
    Someone was asking about the whereabouts of Kenfuego. Surely THIS topic will bring him out of hiding?

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    Icon12 Just a few observations of the "controlled/contrived" market.

    Came back from Tasmania, where fuel prices are always higher than the mainland according to my daughter, but in reality on the last two trips with the Megane Diesel, there wasn't that much difference. Shell still seemed the push leader for higher diesel prices and due to my daughter saving up shopper dockets the Caltex/Safeway in Launceston outlet was even lower than my Melbourne Diesel Price paid. Mind you Melbourne prices have been artificially high and one has to watch closely the way prices are handled between the various blends on offer.

    I still fill up the Laguna and Fuego on 98 RON, so keep an eye out for the 98 Ron pricing and fill up every now and again when it is more reasonably priced. I have found it is best to avoid 95 RON as this is often rip off priced as it is the most popular fill for some and the margin between ulp and 95 that used to be 5 cents can get up to 25 or more cents when the servos can slip in the excuse to lift profits at the expense of motorists!

    While Nagaman's favourite brand does have some lower pricing, it also jumps margins between outlets, and you do need to check your fuel price carefully to get the most out of their pricing as I have found outlets in the same country area have a few cents difference even though only a kilometre or two from each other, O.k. I accept that different loads of fuel might be differently priced! but then motorists have to be smart AND observant and buy where their dollar goes furthest!

    Recently I had to do a business trip and fuel in Melbourne was very high, United locally had Diesel at 121 cents a litre while most others were 139 plus cents a litre and Shell 144.9 cents a litre. I took a punt and headed country hoping those prices might be cheaper.

    At Wallan I HAD to buy fuel, so opted for a Shell fill of diesel that cost me $70 for the tank full (@ 1.399 a litre cost on the docket )(last filled in Tassie!) and even had a very pleasant attendant fill the tank, good gosh kerbside service ! and the Megane seemed to like their fuel fill! O.K. it wasn't as cheap as my Local United outlet, but competitive with the most others in Melbourne and I needed it! Might have got to Kilmore, but then all those outlets were dearer again with Shell in the 144 range -now how can shell sell at less in Wallan when Kilmore is further away from the Melbourne source. I guess you would have to ask the ACCC and Shell.

    For some reason I choose not to use United Diesel if I can avoid it, just a personal thing as most motorists have a preference, some other cheaper brands I do use, but again comes down to observation of performance in use I guess. I do use their 98 Ron petrol on occasions with no perceptible downsides. Just my preference and I have no commercial association with any brands at this time.

    On the return journey I bought an APCO fill at $1.289 and a whole $27 to fill the tank and of course that was much cheaper than most brands when I got back to Melbourne. Might be tempted to try United Diesel if it remains at 121 plus cents a litre. and the others in the 144 range.

    Hopefuly all of our froggers are observant and put their fuel dollar where it benefits them the most as that is the only way we can adjust/pressure pricing changes, as I can't see politicians bothering to help us by pressuring the market to keep fuel prices low.

    I kind of feel for those using LPG as the difference is great with some shell outlets at 84 cents and prices at other brands in the 60 cents range. so it would pay to be observant and take advantage for those that are price conscious.

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    I did take a few photographs of pricing on the recent trip, interesting but not definitive..

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    Filled up the Golf i had for a few weeks with United diesel @ 124c/l while others were @ 139.9 & shell even higher. Didn't notice any difference in performance.
    What is the difference in diesel fuel? A friend drives an X5 and needed a new fuel pump (i think he means a new injection pump) that costs over $30k or $22k 'wholesale'. Apparently they had that problem with their diesel X5 in the US and BMW did the job under warranty there. In Australia BMW blames bad diesel fuel and wont cover the replacement
    Anyhow, his insurance covered it eventually because he a faultless receipt tail proving his fuel sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoBo View Post
    needed a new fuel pump (i think he means a new injection pump) that costs over $30k or $22k 'wholesale'
    Ehhhh? I know beemers are supposed to be highfalutin and all, but wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by graham66 View Post
    Ehhhh? I know beemers are supposed to be highfalutin and all, but wow.
    High milage BMW X5 V8 petrol engines have a habit of having the timing chain skates collapse. This results in timing chains derailing and valve gridlock with pistons : the full catastrophe.

    Sensible owners notice the warning signs by the start up noise.

    My (recently deceased) friend had this happen, within a week of hearing the noise, and the rebuild with BMW oem parts by a non dealer was quoted at $38k.

    He found a used engine for $7k - and had the skates replaced before installation.
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    A mateís BMW V8 had a water cooled alternator failure with the coolant going up the loom shorting the instruments.
    Much expense. Ok if youíre loaded or running a profitable business.


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    with the coolant going up the loom
    When I went to school , coolant, was a liquid, and wasn't capable of "going up the (wiring) loom"
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    Don't you have a water-cooled CPU?
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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    When I went to school , coolant, was a liquid, and wasn't capable of "going up the (wiring) loom"
    It was a water cooled alternator instead of a noisy fan method......I guess itís something not commonly known about.
    The pressurised system forced the coolant out through the instrument cluster.


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