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    http://europe.autonews.com/article/2...autonews-blast


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    I think it is understandable that they wind back production of some models. When the competition is producing something like Byton China?s Byton reveals tech-heavy electric SUV concept at a reasonable price, PSA and others probably need to be agile and responsive to the competition; easier if there are fewer models.

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    PSA wants to be the most efficient car maker, not the biggest.
    I wonder how dealerships feel about it -
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    Perhaps "efficient" is a euphemism for "most profitable", a high likely scenario.

    Cheaper manufacture and good quality so to speak?
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    How does Argentina (similar in some economic ways to Australia in population etc) build their own Peugeots??? They even have a reasonable sales to support a broad range of PSA products including commercials. This weekend there is another Holden Astra sale starting below $20K advertised. Maybe GM Holden is disposing of the now PSA Opel products and planning to replaced with GM products from other sources. This path is not deepening a PSA/GM partnership but separating markets, investment and profits.

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    Is there anything thatís actually from the 2008/3008 which makes its way on to the Dakar cars?.


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    Quote Originally Posted by halfamill View Post

    How does Argentina (similar in some economic ways to Australia in population etc) build their own Peugeots??? They even have a reasonable sales to support a broad range of PSA products including commercials. This weekend there is another Holden Astra sale starting below $20K advertised. Maybe GM Holden is disposing of the now PSA Opel products and planning to replaced with GM products from other sources. This path is not deepening a PSA/GM partnership but separating markets, investment and profits.

    Ref: Peugeot Sport - Dakar rally 2018

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    41% of PEUGEOTs sold in Argentina are produced on Argentine soil in the Palomar factory near Buenos Aires. In the first 11 months of 2017, PEUGEOT's bestsellers in Argentina were the PEUGEOT 208 (25,170 sales), PEUGEOT 2008 (11,108 sales) and PEUGEOT 3008 (9,522 sales), the latter two models having served as the basis of PEUGEOT SPORTís rally raid beasts: the PEUGEOT 2008DKR (winner of the 2016 Dakar) and the PEUGEOT 3008DKR (winner of the 2017 Dakar).
    Regarding your Holden Astra comment, I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case?

    A shame PSA wasn't able to buy the Holden plant and use Australia as a hub for all RHD Peugeots, to all the other RHD markets. I hear though, that they're announcing a new location for a South East Asian plant. With any luck it's Thailand and then we should see some better priced cars making it here. They already build in Malaysia, but their stuff is strictly for domestic consumption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagaman View Post
    Is there anything that’s actually from the 2008/3008 which makes its way on to the Dakar cars?.


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    Only the Brand Peugeot Sport, the 3008 graphics and the 3008 styling clues as far as I know. As with most race cars, it is built from the ground up as a rally car to meet Dakar race requirements, as with the other rally cars. I have seen standard Peugeot 3008s being used as urban support vehicles. It would be interesting to know the cost of a Peugeot 3008 DKR Maxi, because there is a non-Peugeot privateer still running, who purchased the car for the race! There is only one 3008DKR Maxi in a position to win at the moment Stage 13.
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    And now the 2018 Dakar as well!

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    Peugeotís last, sadly.


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    So where is this headed?.

    https://driventowrite.com/2018/01/31...ge-1/#comments


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    If it was me, cold blooded **** that I am, I would do this:
    Close the UK factories completely. RHD builds can be done by existing continental factories.
    Re-engineer the current Opel platforms to take PSA drivelines.
    Fit PSA PHEV drivelines to the Opel electric fleet.
    The new Corsa is due in 2019 which means it is too late to replace. Unlike Renault (which can raid the Nissan and Mitsubishi parts bin), PSA hasn't had any solid partnerships to use at this time. They need to integrate the future Opel product onto PSA architecture sooner than 2025. Like, much sooner.
    GM has sucked Opel dry ever since 2009 (and probably long before that). I doubt there has been much development of anything since that time. It makes you wonder what value is attached to the brand any more. Like Holden. The fanbois aren't interested in the European product so it will be interesting how that pans out.
    Current sales of post factory shutdown Holdens must have their new masters very nervous indeed

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    Apart from production capacity what does Opel have that PSA canít resist?. Itís a mystery.


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    Even though GM Europe operated at a loss, they sold a significant number of cars from Opel and Vauxhall dealer outlets. So it is all about achieving higher sales in UK and EU countries including French Opel purchases. All about volume! GM Europe had high sales and negative profit, to maintain their presence in the European market! They used to call this "dumping" e.g. selling cars at cost or even lower to take over a market - talk to Toyota about this sales policy.

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    My Astra was dumped. I would be mad as hell if Iíd paid anywhere near full price, and as for resale.....oh dear!


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    With the imminent introduction of EV, PEV & Hybrids from 2019 on, ICE cars will have limited or unsure future to maintain values! Talk of resale values by sales people is a bit of a "Con"! They certainly sold a number of Astra's recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfamill View Post
    With the imminent introduction of EV, PEV & Hybrids from 2019 on, ICE cars will have limited or unsure future to maintain values! Talk of resale values by sales people is a bit of a "Con"! They certainly sold a number of Astra's recently.
    Battery has a future but ICEs are incrementally being legislated out of high density urban areas.
    The Astra sales boost was one of those pre-registration fiddles to boost otherwise poor figures.
    An $8000 deduction on a sub $30,000 car in order to rid themselves of a stock hangover makes everyone wary the next time they are in the market.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 68 404 View Post
    Why do all your posts advertise Apple?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68 404 View Post
    Why do all your posts advertise Apple?
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    PSA bought the GM Europe plants and business and has now bought controlling interest in the Kia assembly plant in Malaysia for assembly of Peugeot Citroen products for the Asian market. I guess this includes Australia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by halfamill View Post
    PSA bought the GM Europe plants and business and has now bought controlling interest in the Kia assembly plant in Malaysia for assembly of Peugeot Citroen products for the Asian market. I guess this includes Australia!
    Peugeots have been assembled in Asia for many years, but they've never sold those in Australia.
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    Either way PSA have recorded a good financial result in spite of the Opel losses -

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    Their BEV plans -
    https://electrek.co/2018/04/09/peuge...w-ev-division/


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    Trump makes life difficult for PSAís Iranian plans -
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