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    Default WRC 2004-

    Just thought it may be a good idea to keep all WRC posts in the one thread. It will make things alot easier as people tend to put different WRC things in different places .

    There's obviously alot of WRC fans on this forum which is great .

    SO basically if you've got anything to post vis a vis WRC, POST IT HERE.

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    I think Fox sports have coverage tonight of Rally Monte Carlo (I may stand corrected).

    In my opinion im not fussed who wins this year, just as long as it's one team from the PSA group!


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    Yeah i agree... well i might have to find somewhere which has Fox... Actually my mate has foxtel... Might see if i can get him to tape it....
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    Just need money for cable TV and Broadband internet
    and I will be so happy.

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    Yeah... i would love cable internet... could be devastating to my life though...

    Being lightning fast.. would want to download to much stuff!!!
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    Default 1st Stage of 2004 season cancelled!!!

    SS1: Too many spectators forces stage stoppage
    Monte Carlo · 23/01/2004 06:53:49



    The Monte Rally has got off to an inauspicious start after it was decided that there were too mnay spectators lining the route of the first competitive test of the 2004 World Championship, the first of two runs through Selonnet to Breziers.

    The high volume of fans, all keen to welcome in the new championship and get their first glimpse of WRC action in 2004, meant that it would be dangerous to run the stage. Stage 2, scheduled 0826hrs local time is thought to be unaffected by the decsion to scrap SS1.

    A careful eye will be kept on the situation by the organisers in a effort to avoid a stampede up to SS2 and the same thing happening again.

    The first stage would have produced an interesting outcome, since the weather looked set to play its traditional part in the Monte. A light gathering od snow and temperatures hovering around the freezing meant that conditions were good in most places. Only Petter Solberg (pictured above during shakedown yesterday) and Carlos Sainz, who would have been first and third on the road respectively, had opted to use a narrow tyre to penetrate any potential surface snow. Rival Sebastien Loeb chose a wide tyre, believing it to be the quicker option for the conditions.

    Just to let you know Marcus Gronholm has recorded the fastest time so far in SS2 in the rally... But there is a long way to go... Loix in 8th at the moment... Loeb is in 3rd... Can't remember the 2nd driver for citreon off the top of my head... is it duval or Sainz.. well they are 4th and 7th respectively..
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    End of Leg1 Leob is leading, then it's Martin, less than 1 sec behind in 3rd is Gronholm. I am pretty impress with the 307WRC since it's only it's first rally and traditionally Monte dont produce good results for Peugeot. Hope they can keep this up. I feel sorry for the mechanics though... with that steep windscreen and short bonnet, how r u suppose to reach in n fix the engine in service...? Also, Loix is a strange choice this year.. he never seems to produce anything special, I dont understand why Peugeot signed him...

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    I too was quite surprised with the good start of the 307. I too didn't think Loix would be the best choice, i think peugeot have spent to much money on research & development on the new 307 & had to make do with a 2nd rate driver.

    Mitsubishi looks like they have heaps of testing to do before their car is competitive enough.

    If i can make early predictions now i'd say Citreon will get constructors. The Loeb/Sainz duo are just too good & the citreon just keeps going with no issues, already the 307 has had gearbox problems. As for Drivers Championship i'd say Gronholm, look out for loeb & Solberg not to mention dark horse Marko Martin.

    All in all it looks like its going to be one hell of a season!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by purrr-geot
    I too was quite surprised with the good start of the 307. I too didn't think Loix would be the best choice, i think peugeot have spent to much money on research & development on the new 307 & had to make do with a 2nd rate driver.

    Mitsubishi looks like they have heaps of testing to do before their car is competitive enough.

    If i can make early predictions now i'd say Citreon will get constructors. The Loeb/Sainz duo are just too good & the citreon just keeps going with no issues, already the 307 has had gearbox problems. As for Drivers Championship i'd say Gronholm, look out for loeb & Solberg not to mention dark horse Marko Martin.

    All in all it looks like its going to be one hell of a season!!
    I know you drive a Peugeot, but could you at least learn to spell Citroen?! Or if you want to be really clever, try Citroën

    And I think what you all wanted to see was:

    MONTE CARLO RALLY 2004: CITROEN'S LOEB LEADS DAY ONE


    Citroen's Sébastien Loeb has taken the lead in the 2004 Monte Carlo Rally,
    the first event in the 2004 World Rally Championship and the event in which
    he lead Citroen to a 1-2-3 victory last year, with an 18.3 second lead at
    the end of day one.


    Tyre choice was absolutely critical, with the debate between the "G51"
    studded full-snow-tyre, and the wider "D10" just with two rows of studs.
    After the team had weighed up the pros and the cons, including the fact
    that fresh snow had fallen during the night on the first stage, both
    Citroen Xsara cars were fitted with the "G51". Just one minute before
    leaving service, Sébastien Loeb decided to swap his tyres for the "D10". An
    inspired decision as the first pass through stage 1 was cancelled, and
    there was no question about it: the "D10" was the ideal choice.


    Carlos Sainz, who had kept the "G51" tyres, lost 38 seconds.


    "This is a typical Monte Carlo scenario," Sainz mused at the end of the day
    saw him back in fourth place. "Was my choice for the first loop the correct
    one? We will never know because the cancellation of SS1 turned it into the
    wrong choice!"


    By the time they set off for the second loop, identical to the first, the
    tyre choice problem was no longer there. The two Xsara cars were on the
    pace, as proved by their one-two in SS4. Sébastien, third after the
    morning, overtook Markko Märtin to take second place. Carlos, in fifth, was
    gradually closing up the gap between him and Marcus Grönholm.


    For the day's final stages, consisting of the "Laborel-L'Aubergerie" and
    "Rosans-L'Epine" stages, the debate started all over again. Should they
    choose the "TA" mixed tyre, or trust the "D10"? The two Xsaras opted for
    the latter, without studs. It proved to be the best choice for the whole
    loop, and Sébastien took the lead.


    "Considering the conditions at the start of the leg, I decided to be very
    careful. It was very tricky, and I wanted to avoid making any mistakes.
    After that, the roads changed, and gradually, we 'got back in the game',
    gaining confidence and increasing the pace. In the last special stage, I
    was totally at ease with my Xsara, and I was able to really push," said
    Sébastien at the end of the day.


    Moving up to fourth position, Carlos Sainz has not given up: "The car is
    perfect, and when I think of last year, I can measure just how much I am
    now in phase with it. We can do good things in this rally."


    As careful as usual concerning the rest of the event, Team Director Guy
    Fréquelin was nevertheless smiling. "We negotiated this leg well. It looked
    like being the most complicated, but that of tomorrow could be just as bad,
    even worse. We will see. In the meantime, I think we did some very good
    work today."


    Rally Statistics


    Position of the Xsara WRC cars and gap from the best time, special stage by
    special stage.


    Sébastien Loeb/Daniel Elena Carlos Sainz/Marc Marti
    SS1 (22.64 km) Cancelled Cancelled
    SS2 (20.18 km) 3rd + 11.2 s 7th + 38.7 s
    SS3 (20.64 km) 7th + 6.2 s 3rd + 1.9 s
    SS4 (20.18 km) 1st 2nd + 1.8 s
    SS5 (26.68 km) 2nd + 1.8 s 5th+ 11.2 s
    SS6 (31.81 km) 1st 3rd + 12.1 s


    Fastest times in each special stage
    SS1 : cancelled - SS2 : Marcus Grönholm (Peugeot 307) - SS3 : Markko Märtin
    (Ford Focus) - SS4 : Sébastien Loeb (Citroën Xsara) - SS5 : M. Grönholm -
    SS6 : S. Loeb.


    Successive leaders
    SS2 to 5 : M. Grönholm - SS6 : S. Loeb.


    Classification after the first leg


    1. S. Loeb/D. Elena (Citroën Xsara) 1 h 26 min
    38.7 s
    2. M. Märtin/M.Park (Ford Focus) + 18.3 s
    3. M. Grönholm/T. Rautiainen (Peugeot 307) + 18.7 s
    4. C. Sainz/M. Marti (Citroën Xsara) +
    46.5 s
    5. F. Duval/S. Prevot (Ford Focus) + 1 min
    00.6 s
    6. P. Solberg/Ph. Mills (Subaru Impreza) + 1 min
    52.4 s
    7. R. Kresta/J. Tomanek (Hyundai Accent) + 2 min 54
    s
    8. M. Hirvonen/J. Lehtinen (Subaru Impreza) + 2
    min 54.8 s
    9. F. Loix/S. Smeets (Peugeot 307) + 2 min
    59.8 s
    10. N. Vouilloz/D. Fiorini (Peugeot 206) + 4 min
    05.7 s
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    The Xsara's real quick, but you've got to agree 307WRC is a fantastic looking car....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philkkonen
    The Xsara's real quick, but you've got to agree 307WRC is a fantastic looking car....
    Nice looking indeed but hardly looks like a rally car.

    And sorry for spelling Sitreon wrong

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    The Top 10 diferencea in times after DAY 2...

    1 S LOEB 0.0
    2 F DUVAL +1:28.7
    3 M MÄRTIN +1:41.7
    4 M GRÖNHOLM +1:57.9
    5 P SOLBERG +3:31.8
    6 F LOIX +4:34.1
    7 G PANIZZI +7:49.0
    8 A WARMBOLD +10:04.5
    9 O BURRI +12:37.7
    10 J BERES +14:18.2


    Loeb took out all the stages run today, the first stage was a TIED Stage and SS10, was cancelled, again due to overcrowding of the course...

    Now the actually times of the rally so far...

    1. S LOEB 2:54:22.6
    2. F DUVAL +1:28.7
    3. M MÄRTIN +1:41.7
    4. M GRÖNHOLM +1:57.9
    5. P SOLBERG +3:31.8
    6. F LOIX +4:34.1
    7. G PANIZZI +7:49.0
    8. A WARMBOLD +10:04.5
    9. O BURRI +12:37.7
    10. J BERES +14:18.2

    Sainz is on the retirement list as he apparently got caught out by some snow and tore one of his wheels off...

    The list is as follows...
    2 Mikko HIRVONEN (FIN)
    SUBARU Impreza WRC 2003 A8 SS9 MECHANICAL
    4 Carlos SAINZ (E)
    CITROEN Xsara WRC A8 SS9 MECHANICAL
    10 Gian Luigi GALLI (I)
    MITSUBISHI Lancer WRC04 A8 SS5 OFF ROAD
    33 Guy WILKS (GB)
    SUZUKI Ignis A6 SS5 MECHANICAL
    35 Kosti KATAJAMAKI (FIN)
    SUZUKI Ignis A6 SS11 MECHANICAL
    38 Abdo FEGHALI (RL)
    FORD Puma A6 SS6 OFF ROAD
    40 Guerlain CHICHERIT (F)
    CITROEN Saxo
    41 Natalie BARRATT (GB)
    MG Rover ZR A6 SS3 MECHANICAL
    44 Alan SCORCIONI (I)
    FIAT Punto A6 TC4A MECHANICAL
    46 Xavier PONS (E)
    FIAT Punto A6 SS9 OFF ROAD
    47 Luca TABATON (I)
    FIAT Punto A6 SS9 MECHANICAL
    48 Conrad RAUTENBACH (ZW)
    FORD PUMA A6 SS3 MECHANICAL
    49 Luca BETTI (E)
    PEUGEOT 206 S1600 A6 SS4 MECHANICAL
    50 Oliver MARSHALL (GB)
    RENAULT Clio A6 SS11 OFF ROAD
    61 Nicolas VOUILLOZ (F)
    PEUGEOT 206 WRC A8 SS7 OFF ROAD
    62 Miguel CAMPOS (P)
    PEUGEOT 206 WRC A8 SS6 OFF ROAD
    64 Riccardo ERRANI (I)
    SKODA Octavia WRC Evo 3 A8 TC6A MECHANICAL
    66 Eamonn BOLAND (IRL)
    SUBARU Impreza WRC A8 SS7 MECHANICAL
    67 Philippe ROUX (CH)
    FORD Focus WRC A8 SS8 OFF ROAD
    69 Roman KRESTA (CZ)
    HYUNDAI Accent WRC A8 SS9 MECHANICAL
    72 Moreno FIDIANI (I)
    MITSUBISHI Lancer A8 TC2B MECHANICAL

    Number 61 Nicholas Vouilloz, had a huge crash on one of the stages today and actuall hindered alot of drivers with there times.. seeing as the cars had set off in slower cars first, A fair few WRC Works cars got caught out, the organisers, conveened that all cars after the would get an average time.. which had been recorded by the last car through unaffected by the incident.
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    Well the first round of the 2004 WRC is officially Complete.

    Top 7 standings are as follows...

    1. Sebastian Loeb
    2. Marko Martin
    3. Francois Duval
    4. Marcus Gronholm
    5. Freddy Loix
    6. Gilles Panizzi
    7. Peter Solberg

    So 3 of the works cars retired..

    Good end to the first rally for the PSA contingent.. 1st, 4th, & 5th. Unfortunantly it was to Fords in between.. They hold the Manufacturers Lead at the moment..

    You will be able to get the full results off the www.wrc.com site tomorrow morning... Fingers Crossed my mate taped all days highlights for me... if he has, i will have some nice things to watch next week...
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