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    Default As close to an all French car than you can get

    Just don't ask the price
    http://exagon-motors.com/

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    and, in a clear and entirely understandable sign of the times, Press Kits in french, english, mandarin, and russian...

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    All the technology seems to be Siemens. Isn't Siemens German?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard W View Post
    All the technology seems to be Siemens. Isn't Siemens German?
    Mais bien sūr!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    Mais bien sūr!
    Oui, egalement, Non
    Siemens is a global Group founded in Germany, where its head office remains, but its technology is not necessarily German. It has been in France for 160 years and has survived three wars between the two countries. Currently it has 7 R&D centres in France and 6 technical reference centres for its global operations. It works on joint research projects with a number of French Universities, Engineering Schools and Technology Parks. This car is the result of technical collaboration on the motors in France with the start-up venture. The power unit will be made in Germany. The batteries are made by Saft, another global operation but whose origins are in France. Saft was once part of Alcatel, then bought by a British private equity group, then listed on the Euronext Echange. It operates globally, elle est trčs franēaise and is headed by a Brit.

    The car does 0-100 in about 3.5secs and they have governed it to 250 kmh although it is capable of nearly 300.

    I saw a Fisker on show at an exhibition last week. Another example of advantage being taken of the inherent capabilty of electric motors to generate high torque at zero revs, to create a performance car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard W View Post
    All the technology seems to be Siemens. Isn't Siemens German?
    And Japanese since the Siemens - Fuji connection years ago
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    You would have thought a French based company would have used Airbus aircraft as examples over Boeings.
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    Airbus isn't French, They are principally Franco-German with working arrangements with the aircraft industries in several countries, including China. As much as 30% of the manufacturing costs are incurred in the US depending on the engine choice.
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    anyway, gerry, putting aside quibbling about the finer details of siemens, it is plain the this car is wholly designed by a truly french company, and will no doubt be manufactured in france. even if they had bought in some highly specialised components, the story more than justifies you initial assertion!

    overall, the car looks really good. having a look on the Net shows that it is going to cost about EUR 350,000. eek!

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    I couldn't find any reference to range in the technical specs. ? Surely this is a major factor in it's success, especially for practical motorway use . Are they being deliberately coy about revealing it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by citroenut View Post
    I couldn't find any reference to range in the technical specs. ? Surely this is a major factor in it's success, especially for practical motorway use . Are they being deliberately coy about revealing it ?

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    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/others/...-ar132491.html


    not that it really matters, but i think something was lost in the translation with the name.
    i daresay they were trying to express 'understated', but furtive is better defined as 'underhanded'.
    i can imagine myself say in a loud voice 'i just bought a lamborghini', but 'check out my new Furtive' just does have that certain 'i dont know what' - as they say in sydney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by citroenut View Post
    I couldn't find any reference to range in the technical specs. ? Surely this is a major factor in it's success, especially for practical motorway use . Are they being deliberately coy about revealing it ?

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    The battery capacity is 53kwhours.the peak engine power is 400bhp ie about 300kw. The range is entirely dependent on how much of that power you use. They are proposing a version with a 35 l tank and a rangeextender petrol engine to gain a 300 km get you home capabilty.
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    What a shockingly bad website. Need to highlight the text to be able to read it! Wow. Been a long time since I've seen one quite so bad.
    The car looks nice though.
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    Well, 300km/h is Veyron territory without the price tag. I'll have one in French racing blue, merci boku.
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    veyron top speed: 400 km/h

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    Okay, takeoff speed then. Not that any of us can tell the difference between 400 and 300km/h in a car.
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    you can when i pass you at 400 in my Veyron, and you are only doing 260 in your Furtive.

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    Ha. 300, silly boy.
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    The Japanese connection is to Fujitsu not Fuji (as is Fuji Xerox)

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    Quote Originally Posted by schlitzaugen View Post
    Ha. 300, silly boy.
    speed governed to 250.
    seems i was being excessively generous.

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    I think that's just for public eyes. You buy one, they'll delimit it for you, otherwise why bother? The real question is, how far does it go at that top speed? We know the Veyron runs out of fuel in 15 minutes (or thereabouts). Can this go further?
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    Hopefully they'll make 'em right hand drive. Pleasantly cheap thanks to the euro having tanked big time. 300km/h is ample in my opinion. 250km/h cruising is seriously fast. A bit of ooomph for overtaking but more is just dangerous on a public road.

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    They claim to have a strong order book in the UAE and Russia. Both regions are LHD. To me the speed doesn't seem to matter much beyond the brochure. The important application of these cars is to occupy as visible a parking space as possible in the luxury end of town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2353 View Post
    You would have thought a French based company would have used Airbus aircraft as examples over Boeings.
    Boeing has over 100 suppliers in France whose sales are 4.5 billion dollars a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerry freed View Post
    They claim to have a strong order book in the UAE and Russia. Both regions are LHD. To me the speed doesn't seem to matter much beyond the brochure. The important application of these cars is to occupy as visible a parking space as possible in the luxury end of town.
    that is so true! i have often mused how one virtually never sees a GT type car outside of a city. in australia anyway. even on the hume highway, i dont think i can ever recall seeing a ferrari / lamboghini etc. maybe - very rarely - a porsche. even putting aside the near impossibility of the most furtive blat up well over the speed limit, i reckon 90% of ferrari/lambo in sydney, never get out of the eastern suburbs, nor above 60!

    yes, pun intended....

    probably a good thing too. looking at the 'crashed exotics' website, it seems plain that most of their owners are quite capable of pranging their cars if they actually get the chance to use the incredible power available from so many of these cars.

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