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			<title>Cits on ebay</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 08:11:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Some interesting 2CVs etc.. Any from AFs? 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-BX-TRS-1986-HATCH-AUTO-/321123941096?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item4ac47a7ae8 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-2CV-SIDEWINDER-/251272771593?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item3a81063809...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Some interesting 2CVs etc.. Any from AFs?<br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-BX-TRS-1986-HATCH-AUTO-/321123941096?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item4ac47a7ae8" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-B...item4ac47a7ae8</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-2CV-SIDEWINDER-/251272771593?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item3a81063809" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-2...item3a81063809</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-2-CV-Special-1988-/181139172603?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item2a2cbc6cfb" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-2...item2a2cbc6cfb</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-GS-sedan-Convertisseur-1972-/300899748437?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item460f05ca55" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-G...item460f05ca55</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-DS-19-/161024117333?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item257dc90a55" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Citroen-D...item257dc90a55</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-2CV-/251263032149?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item3a80719b55" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CITROEN-2...item3a80719b55</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Xantia-2-9-V6-Quad-Cam-Exclusive-Hydraulic-Suspension-Immaculate-Low-Kms-Citroen-/151036721108?pt=AU_Cars&amp;hash=item232a7d77d4" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Xantia-2-...item232a7d77d4</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>JoBo</dc:creator>
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			<title>What are these wheels????</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 07:40:20 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello members!. 
Thanks for letting me join your forum. I dont own a French car, but have a question that I need help on, that kind of relates to French vehicle!! 
I bought a trailer recently and the guy who sold it said the axle was from an "old Citroen"!! 
Hence, I need some help identifying what...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello members!.<br />
Thanks for letting me join your forum. I dont own a French car, but have a question that I need help on, that kind of relates to French vehicle!!<br />
I bought a trailer recently and the guy who sold it said the axle was from an &quot;old Citroen&quot;!!<br />
Hence, I need some help identifying what the heck model these wheels may have come off!!....Why??? Well, i am hoping to change the hubs over and need to figure out what the teeth count and diametre of the axle is!....i could take the whole thing a part...but would like to avoid the need if I have to!...just trying to work out if my changed hub idea is feasable, before I attack it with spanners!<br />
Any ideas would be very much appreciated!<br />
They are 3 stud, but the PCD is hard to work out...I get 160 measuring it one way and 108 doing it another way (I blame google!!)<br />
I should add that they are 4.5x15&quot; wheels....</div>


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			<title>Towing with a CX</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 04:55:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi, 
 
Looking at doing some towing with the CX when back together (pic shows current towbar) 
 
The trailer frame will be 10 x 5.  Wheels outside frame.  The body on the body of the trailer will be solid about 4ft high - camper trailer style.  Should weigh about 500kg all up. 
 
Now, not having...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi,<br />
<br />
Looking at doing some towing with the CX when back together (pic shows current towbar)<br />
<br />
The trailer frame will be 10 x 5.  Wheels outside frame.  The body on the body of the trailer will be solid about 4ft high - camper trailer style.  Should weigh about 500kg all up.<br />
<br />
Now, not having done much towing other than a box trailer, I was wondering what type of suspension i should get on the trailer so it is best suited for the CX.  Would it be different behind the C5 X7.<br />
<br />
Does the extra foot of width make much difference when towing?  I am thinking the CX is about 5ft wide, rear vision should still be good without the need to add bigger/wider side mirrors.  Any wider might be different though.<br />
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advice from you e pertinence towers would be welcome?<br />
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Laurie</div>


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			<title>1968 restored D Safari for sale at Bonhams</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 02:15:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA["Equipped with the 1,985cc engine and manual transmission, this six-seater Commerciale has been completely restored by Italian Citroën specialist Marco Centomo of Verona and as a result is described as in excellent condition throughout. It currently displays a total of 88,000 kilometres on the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>&quot;Equipped with the 1,985cc engine and manual transmission, this six-seater Commerciale has been completely restored by Italian Citroën specialist Marco Centomo of Verona and as a result is described as in excellent condition throughout. It currently displays a total of 88,000 kilometres on the odometer. The car is finished in grey with white roof and tan vinyl interior, and is offered with Italian libretto, Certificato di Proprieta and ASI certificate as well as an original owner's manual&quot;<br />
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Estimate: US$32-39,000<br />
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<a href="http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/21284/lot/35/?page_anchor=MR1_page_lots%3D4%26r1%3D10%26m1%3D1" target="_blank">http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/2128...%3D10%26m1%3D1</a></div>

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			<dc:creator>pajamas</dc:creator>
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			<title>Tupperware DS</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 15:05:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was leafing through my files tonight and I found the text of a old post to the Yahoo DSeries_L list which I had forgotten but which you may find of interest.  
The listee was a US guy named Ken Nelson who had a career in engineering plastics to the US car industry. 
I quote from his post. 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was leafing through my files tonight and I found the text of a old post to the Yahoo DSeries_L list which I had forgotten but which you may find of interest. <br />
The listee was a US guy named Ken Nelson who had a career in engineering plastics to the US car industry.<br />
I quote from his post.<br />
<br />
&quot; The reason the front and rear fenders on the DS are mounted on rubber bushes is that the car was designed for thermoplastic body panels, like the dash - but the production rate and supply of plastics for body panels was limited when compared with sheetmetal, and it may just have been the fact that Citroen had over 10,000 orders during the Paris show that they decided to go to metal because of it's higher production rate, but kept the mounting system. This is not speculation - I got this straight from a Citroen engineer during a meeting with them in Paris around 1984......&quot;<br />
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So, you could have been spared from the rust, only to be struck down by the UV.<br />
roger</div>

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			<title>The BX  appreciation thread</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 09:54:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I thought I'd be the first to initiate a BX appreciation thread as I believe that they are a modern day classic. As with both the DS, CX and GS they were once derided and the centre of old iron ridicule, I believe that before the end of petroleum the BX will take its rightful place in the Citroen...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I thought I'd be the first to initiate a BX appreciation thread as I believe that they are a modern day classic. As with both the DS, CX and GS they were once derided and the centre of old iron ridicule, I believe that before the end of petroleum the BX will take its rightful place in the Citroen anthology.  <br />
<br />
We are lucky enough here in Australia to have examples that are dry and rot free...unlike the UK where even the best examples have &quot;patina&quot; on their undersides...<br />
<br />
It should be pointed out that the BX was Citroens most successful model and as such staved off imminent bankruptcy of the company..<br />
<br />
We are currently wrecking the BX as fast as we did the DS back in the 80's, and usually for simple leak back hose issues.<br />
<br />
Yes the MK2's lack the character of the MK1's but I can imagine that the same would have been said when the DS went from its sculptured early dashes of the ID to when they went to  fitting the more conventional 3 round Jaeger  dials...(&quot;thats not a real Citroen&quot;)<br />
<br />
Anyway its all just perspective<br />
<br />
and I dont imagine that there will be a flood of BX appreciation thread posts but I'm putting it here for future purposes if you will...</div>

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			<dc:creator>2bxornot2bx</dc:creator>
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			<title>c3 sensodrive or sequential manual</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 09:33:44 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>My sequential 5 speed manual C3 Plurial is acting up ..any suggestions?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My sequential 5 speed manual C3 Plurial is acting up ..any suggestions?</div>

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			<dc:creator>2bxornot2bx</dc:creator>
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			<title>Citroen DS entry in the 1995 Mobil 1 Round Australia Trial</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 09:14:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I was a competitor in this event and noted a beautifully presented DS (I think, as I am no Citroen expert). It disappeared somewhere between Brisbane and Sydney and I heard it had  had terminal engine failure when a floor mat stuck under the accelerator pedal. I think Mal Crockenberg may have been...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was a competitor in this event and noted a beautifully presented DS (I think, as I am no Citroen expert). It disappeared somewhere between Brisbane and Sydney and I heard it had  had terminal engine failure when a floor mat stuck under the accelerator pedal. I think Mal Crockenberg may have been the entrant. Can anyone clarify this and advise the final fate of this car? To the best of my knowledge it has not re-emerged in later long distance road events.</div>

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			<dc:creator>monteman</dc:creator>
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			<title>Plurial sensodrive problems! Help</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 02:06:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm trying to help a friend with an emotionally disturbed sensodrive in his plurial. He took off and as it did its 1st to 2nd change, bad noised came from the gearbox, and it failed to proceed. he turned it off, and now it won't start. as i have a xsara, i must know lots about citroens, so he asked...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I'm trying to help a friend with an emotionally disturbed sensodrive in his plurial. He took off and as it did its 1st to 2nd change, bad noised came from the gearbox, and it failed to proceed. he turned it off, and now it won't start. as i have a xsara, i must know lots about citroens, so he asked me for help. (he knows zero about cars). I googled and found heaps about resetting these beasts, and have followed the couple of slightly different proceedures, basically disconnect battery for 2 minutes (or more) reconnect, sit in car with everthing off and closed, foot on brake, ignition on and wait for the dash selector to read &quot;n&quot;. I hear it clunking away until it stops, but the dash still reads &quot;auto&quot;. where to from here. said friend is not in a position for a new gearbox as suggested by the dealer he purchased the car from new. Help! :(</div>

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			<dc:creator>smatic</dc:creator>
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			<title>DS clutch cable bracket.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 18:30:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi All, 
  the bracket on the bell housing that the clutch cable attaches to on a RHD 5 speed has snapped, how easy or hard is it to replace this? I have a spare one to put on, but how is it attached to the bell housing? 
 
 
thanks 
Ed</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi All,<br />
  the bracket on the bell housing that the clutch cable attaches to on a RHD 5 speed has snapped, how easy or hard is it to replace this? I have a spare one to put on, but how is it attached to the bell housing?<br />
<br />
<br />
thanks<br />
Ed</div>

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			<dc:creator>SilverBullet</dc:creator>
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			<title>03 C5 AL4 more woes.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 08:09:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Replaced AL4 2.5 years ago, travelled 9,000 kl.gearbox refusing to change and when it does slips constantly. Using manual mode changes fine. Warranty was 12 months, so looks like a new box or maybe a match.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Replaced AL4 2.5 years ago, travelled 9,000 kl.gearbox refusing to change and when it does slips constantly. Using manual mode changes fine. Warranty was 12 months, so looks like a new box or maybe a match.</div>

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			<dc:creator>tazzy</dc:creator>
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			<title>Reversing Lights C5-set up for towing</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 06:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have recently imported a towbar and dedicated wiring kit from the UK for my C5. :cry: It has been installed by one of Melbourne's supposedly reputable mechanics. The reversing sensors do not disable when a trailer/caravan is connected as I assumed they would. I complained and was poorly treated...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have recently imported a towbar and dedicated wiring kit from the UK for my C5. :cry: It has been installed by one of Melbourne's supposedly reputable mechanics. The reversing sensors do not disable when a trailer/caravan is connected as I assumed they would. I complained and was poorly treated but took it back to be fixed. Unsatisfactorily as it turns out.:eek:<br />
<br />
I have my own diagbox and am a trained electronics tech so if someone could step me through the procedure for enabling the electronics I purchased it would be much appreciated.:)<br />
<br />
AND NO!  :mad: I will not be returning to said mechanics as they have appear to have no idea how to service a modern vehicle.<br />
<br />
I only hope that the suspension side of things has been done more satisfactorily. Any tips here, too, would be well regarded. :adrink:</div>

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			<dc:creator>pdjones</dc:creator>
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			<title>Getting the most out of postage from Der Franzose</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 06:23:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Getting some small items from Der Franzose  for the 2cv (tie rod ends/petrol cap/maybe bulb kit) .Any suggestions for useful smallish items to get the most out of the postage for a 2cv or traction ?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Getting some small items from Der Franzose  for the 2cv (tie rod ends/petrol cap/maybe bulb kit) .Any suggestions for useful smallish items to get the most out of the postage for a 2cv or traction ?</div>

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			<dc:creator>dayofthejackal</dc:creator>
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			<title>2006 C5V6 - coming to 70K km - what to service?</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 23:33:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So my beloved C5V6 2006 is about to click over to the magical 70,000 km.  What should I be getting serviced?   
 
People keep looking at me knowingly and say something about the timing belt, and why not the water pump whilst you're at it...(not being at all mechanically minded I nod knowingly in...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So my beloved C5V6 2006 is about to click over to the magical 70,000 km.  What should I be getting serviced?  <br />
<br />
People keep looking at me knowingly and say something about the timing belt, and why not the water pump whilst you're at it...(not being at all mechanically minded I nod knowingly in complete ignorance)<br />
<br />
Recently had a replacement hydraulic pump (if relevant)<br />
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Car is running like a charm and I'd like to keep it that way so happy to spend now to save later...any sage advice on what I should invest in to keep it happy?</div>

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			<dc:creator>C5V6Kamikaze</dc:creator>
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			<title>ID 19 Woes</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 09:27:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Today I thought I'd shuffle some cars and get the ID 19 out for a spin. 
 
I turn the key and hit the starter button. Sometimes it takes 2 to 4 presses to get it to start cranking if I haven't taken it out for a while and this morning was no exception. On the 3rd attempt, the starter motor kept on...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Today I thought I'd shuffle some cars and get the ID 19 out for a spin.<br />
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I turn the key and hit the starter button. Sometimes it takes 2 to 4 presses to get it to start cranking if I haven't taken it out for a while and this morning was no exception. On the 3rd attempt, the starter motor kept on whining and whining. I turned off the car with the key and it kept going. As I scrambled to pop the bonnet to undo the negative terminal of the battery, a bit of smoke had started coming out the starter. Starter has now come to a stop.<br />
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So I waited a couple of minutes and reconnected the battery. No starter noise. I got back in the car and tried starting it again. All good. The car starts on the 1st attempt and 1:30 later, Harriet rises up without a hitch. <br />
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Knowing well I was going to restart it at some point during my journey for the day, I turn off the car to give it another go and she booted up fine at the press of the button and I could hear the starter whirring among the roar of the long-stroke. I turn it off and the motor turns off but the starter's still kicking and I rush to the negative terminal and disconnect the battery.<br />
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So where to from here?</div>

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