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    Default Renault Floride body rebuild.

    The time has come to dismantle my beloved Floride for some much needed TLC.

    Although the car looks good at first glance it has some issues that bother me, namely crooked panels, bad door gaps and cracks in the paint here and there (bog related).

    The car had a bare metal respray and rust removal done about 15 years ago by the previous tenant, and although it was done well, it wasn't great (probably done to a budget).

    As well the underside of the car needs a lot of tidying up as it has many dents from paddock bashing and incorrectly placed jacks and a couple of rust holes in the floor cross members and some suspect rust repairs in the floor. The list goes on.



    Work is well under way and I have many pics to share... stay tuned.

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    One of the first jobs was to open up the side cooling vents that had been welded shut by some previous repairer.

    This is purely a cosmetic thing because this car has had the 'Caravelle" conversion, making the side air vents redundant hence the reason they were closed off.

    But I think it looks wrong so the decision was made to open them up again. I will make a baffle to install inside these ducts so cooling won't be affected.
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    Body cracks can often be attributed to excess body filler being used but this one was a surprise.

    This must be a stress fracture where the firewall meets the outer guard, where the hole came from is beyond me..it's the same on both sides

    The hole was plated over, welded and lead filled so lets hope it doesn't crack again.
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    After removing what seemed like 2 gallons of bog I found the lead had been removed from the front wing joint drivers side, so it was out with the blow torch and plumbers solder to tin the joint then it was lead filled and filed off flush.
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    You're certainly a handy bloke with a blowlamp, that looks great. Can I ask what flux you use?



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    Quote Originally Posted by catshamlet View Post
    You're certainly a handy bloke with a blowlamp, that looks great. Can I ask what flux you use?



    Mike.

    'Bakers soldering fluid' it's common as chips over here, you just have to make sure you clean off the excess really well because it is quite corrosive if left on,
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    My first attempt at sheet metal work since high school and first ever attempt at plug welding.

    The triangle plate with the three bolts is a reinforcement for the fuel tank that hangs below, the first bit of rust found so far.

    It aint pretty but for a first attempt I guess it's ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    My Missus used to tell me often just how handy I was but she was talking about something all togetherly different....




    Keep the good stuff coming, also did you find the chassis stamp on yours as my two Florides I can't find on either one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 63-1092 View Post




    Keep the good stuff coming, also did you find the chassis stamp on yours as my two Florides I can't find on either one.

    Indeed I did find such a stamp.

    It is located just beside the rear right hand engine mount but is was badly stamped and only just legible but now that it has a coat of paint on it it is almost invisible.

    I would be interested to know if yours is in the same place.

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    Removing more bog (8mm deep) from both front lower guards revealed more previous rust repairs and it was good to see the sills had been replaced by the last guy.


    The guards had distorted from these repairs and was showing through the paint so some panel beating and more lead work was required to true things up as they should be.

    Leading up on a vertical surface like a guard is definately a job for an expert, I struggled with it but did ok and only needed a thin coat of body filler to finish it off.
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    The luggage compartment floor has also had rust repairs done previously and was covered in a thick layer of brush on seam sealer or some such, same as the passenger compartment, this looked unsightly and had to go, so it was back too bare metal again and a heavy coat of matt black enamel applied, from what I can gather this was the original interior finish...happy to be proven wrong though..
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    Also watching your progress with great interest, love these threads

    We should compare notes one day, I'll show you mine if you show me yours

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    Thanks GB,

    Iv'e also been watching your progress with great interest and inspiration...different cars, different approach but we both face the challenge of restoring a car at home with limited space.

    My workshop is two single garages side by side, one full of parts and tools and the other one is just big enough to do the things I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 59 Floride View Post
    Thanks GB,

    Iv'e also been watching your progress with great interest and inspiration...different cars, different approach but we both face the challenge of restoring a car at home with limited space.

    My workshop is two single garages side by side, one full of parts and tools and the other one is just big enough to do the things I need.
    Luxury

    We have a double carport now taken up with larger parts (panels etc.), I've taken over a bedroom in the house for smaller parts and bits and pieces (without a bed the space is full to brimming with packages). There are probably not too many areas in and around the house that don't have something off the car being stored. And of course the mighty Super Cheap tent housing the hull. Remarkably there have been only a few occasions where the hull has been immobilised i.e. it still can be moved under it's own steam.

    Space is a serious consideration when contemplating this kind of work... and a sympathetic family is essential.

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    One other thing that has bugged me about this car is the bonnet has always cocked up a little despite the hinges being adjusted to the maximum.

    Then I discovered why, the hinge end has had extensive rust repairs done but they forgot to fix the underside and the metal has deteriorated.

    So it was welded up flipped over and lead filled to cover the patch panels on the front.(sorry forgot to take lead pics)

    The bonnet looks pretty straight now so we will see if it sits down properly when it is reinstalled.

    This has been the most challenging job so far.

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    The car was then flipped over on my home made rotisserie to show the ugly side and allow access for repairs.

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    Back tracking a bit...

    Because I don't intend doing more body rebuilds anytime soon I haven't invested much expense on tools.

    Apart from a MIG welder, a Makita sander/polisher and a shrinking disc, all my tools are readily available anywhere, or aren't even tools, e.g. bits of steel and pipe can be used as dollies to meld sheet steel.

    Different diameter pieces of conduit are wrapped with abrasive paper to help sand along the body contours. I use large sanding belts of course grit with a piece of 90x35 pine jammed inside to use as a body file, I find it easier to use than a file and it is great for sanding lead to final shape.

    The shrinking disc was purchased on ebay and is one of the greatest tools to have in the arsenal, it is used to create heat through friction and will shrink down the lumps and bumps in a panel, for more info have a look on youtube.
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    Default Triangle plates.

    I couldn't help wondering what was hidden behind all that seam sealer.

    Rust of course, which had been concealed behind a newer piece of sheet metal.

    The steel I am using for repairs is 1.2 Zincanneal which was recommended by someone on this forum, and I find it quite easy to work with as it bends and shapes quite easily.

    Two new triangle plates were installed and seam sealed before being sprayed with under body deadener.
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    This is a rust hole in the floor cross member which contained quite a bit of dirt and sand from days gone bye

    The shiny piece of steel is the repair I made from the top previously where the fuel tank bolts up.

    The rust was cut out, plated over, seam sealed and sprayed with body deadener.
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    You are a dark horse

    That is very impressive, I'd like to see better pics of the rotisserie - not that I'll be needing one.

    What welder do you use, and please tell me you have been working on this for a good while, and not as quickly as your updates...

    I know you are well advanced but if you are anything like me you may enjoy this thread on a UK forum. I couldn't stop looking and spent nearly 2 hours in awe of this guys work. No fancy tools mostly home made but very detailed clear illustrations of what can be achieved. Much of his work is file finish and ready for primer.

    http://retrorides.proboards.com/inde...d=65793&page=1

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    The skills are in making the new panels. I gotta say he is bloody skilled...
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    More repairs...




    GB I have been working hammer and tong on this for 2.5 months..every night after work and every weekend to get to this point and applied the paint finish last weekend.

    I am about to put the shell back on the rotisserie so will post some more pics then.

    That guy in the UK sure is good.
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    Default Rats...

    Or mice maybe.

    This is an air vent that was used to feed clean air to the carby on early Florides, long since made redundant by the caravelle conversion.

    The purists will hate it but the rusted gauze has to go, I am of the opinion that this rust may stand in the way of a future roadworthy inspection.

    So it was cut out, cold galved and plated over.
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    Default The rotisserie

    The rotisserie is made out of scrap from a demolishion site and only cost me my time and a bit of MIG wire.

    It allows for 360 degree rotation to gain access for repairs that can't easily be done from below.

    The welder I am using is a 200 amp chinese brand purchased on ebay for $400 and since I have never owned a welder before I have nothing to compare it to so can't advise if it is good or bad...but it does what I need it to.
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    Now that the under body repairs have been done and looking tidy all the panel joints were seam sealed and the whole underside was sprayed with a thick coat of underbody deadener.
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